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by Econoline
Fri May 25, 2018 10:09 pm
Forum: The Saloon
Topic: Happy Memorial Day
Replies: 0
Views: 7

Happy Memorial Day

This was posted on vintage vans, I thought it should be shared. I don't know the story other than, "here’s one thing you can do with your six when you swap it out"

Enjoy :) :beer: 8)

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by Econoline
Fri May 25, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 67 Mustang - Tuning Autolite 1100
Replies: 13
Views: 178

Re: 67 Mustang - Tuning Autolite 1100

The rule of thumb is when you pull the top of the carb off and flip it over, the float as it rests on the needle and seat should be level/parallel with the gasket surface of the carb top. If when you do that the float is high(upside down) you are running the bowl lean, if it's 'low' you are running ...
by Econoline
Fri May 25, 2018 4:02 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Operating temperature
Replies: 18
Views: 381

Re: Operating temperature

Infrared temp gun on the thermostat housing or top hose. You could also check it at the sending unit.
by Econoline
Sun May 20, 2018 10:04 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Top ring face material clarification
Replies: 4
Views: 135

Re: Top ring face material clarification

I thought technically all 'moly' rings are plasma moly, the moly is applied with plasma, but the difference in moly rings are some are plain cast iron and the better ones are ductile cast iron base.
by Econoline
Tue May 15, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Autolite 1100 rebuild tips please
Replies: 4
Views: 107

Re: Autolite 1100 rebuild tips please

Mike @ Mikes carb parts has a whole video series on rebuilding the 1100.

http://www.carburetor-parts.com/Autolit ... p_281.html
by Econoline
Tue May 15, 2018 4:10 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 200, 240 or 250? I can't figure out which engine this is.
Replies: 28
Views: 381

Re: 200, 240 or 250? I can't figure out which engine this is.

Wait, how are you determining it is a 250 and not a 200? It's more likely that it would be a 200, so the old trans could be used when they did the swap. Did I miss something, does the water pump have 4 bolts? Bubba, they actually did install 170's in 2nd Gen Econolines. 1970 was the last year it was...
by Econoline
Mon May 14, 2018 10:55 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Thermostat,gauge and alternator questions
Replies: 6
Views: 97

Re: Thermostat,gauge and alternator questions

Do you have it running yet?
by Econoline
Mon May 14, 2018 10:51 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: How to use mechanical gauge and idiot lights?
Replies: 4
Views: 120

Re: How to use mechanical gauge and idiot lights?

With the oil use a tee. With the water sender, mount the mechanical one in the thermostat housing.
by Econoline
Mon May 14, 2018 10:38 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options
Replies: 15
Views: 264

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Your auto parts store will likely loan you one for free. Hook it to the 1/4" fpt manifold vacuum port on the side of the log. You may have to tee into a hose if you have something hooked up there. Otherwise you need a 1/4" mpt x 1/8" barb fitting, or some way to get there.
by Econoline
Mon May 14, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 200, 240 or 250? I can't figure out which engine this is.
Replies: 28
Views: 381

Re: 200, 240 or 250? I can't figure out which engine this is.

If it hasn't been replaced it's a 170, solid cam. For whatever reason, they didn't really put 200's into E-100's. Supposedly there were a small number of them installed in the '65 model year only. It was a factory option. With 5 freeze plugs it's most likely the 170 was replaced with a mustang 6 at ...
by Econoline
Sun May 13, 2018 12:39 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Blown valve seals
Replies: 17
Views: 276

Re: Blown valve seals

Thank you bubba that was it! He said some oil was a good thing for the exhaust valve.
by Econoline
Sat May 12, 2018 11:59 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Dying Under Load
Replies: 25
Views: 396

Re: Dying Under Load

I'd pull the top and see if all the check balls and the weight are there and in the right place. And check the float while in there.
by Econoline
Sat May 12, 2018 11:25 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Blown valve seals
Replies: 17
Views: 276

Re: Blown valve seals

Not to highjack this thread but I'm glad this came up. I was talking with my machinist about cutting the guides for viton seals and he told me I should only use them on the intakes. Does anyone do that? He told me his reasoning but I don't remember the reason exactly. It had something to do with the...
by Econoline
Tue May 08, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 200 fastener list
Replies: 5
Views: 161

Re: 200 fastener list

There should be one. That's a really simple thing to compile. Unfortunately I'm not taking a motor apart or putting one together right now and sold my 170. I'd love to see someone do it though :thumbup:
by Econoline
Tue May 08, 2018 11:17 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Priming new engine
Replies: 3
Views: 120

Re: Priming new engine

Any oil cascade out of the back of the engine is never good :) That's all on him, how do you miss 2 pedestal bolts when you do valve jobs for a living? That's why they're the experts, you pay them to know sh*t

Fords generally run higher oil pressures than say, like Chevys on the other side
by Econoline
Tue May 08, 2018 11:08 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 67 Mustang - Cuts off a little when turning hard
Replies: 6
Views: 181

Re: 67 Mustang - Cuts off a little when turning hard

X3 on the float. I get that a little in the morning on the first turns when the van isn't warmed up yet but otherwise it's fine. I have my float a little on the high or lean side.
by Econoline
Tue May 08, 2018 10:27 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Starter solenoid acting wierd
Replies: 8
Views: 221

Re: Starter solenoid acting wierd

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/yqVgS2.jpg Remember the two sides are a mirror image. One pad is longer than the other and one of the adjusters is left hand thread. Keep the fwd arrow in mind. Use anti-seize on all contact points, like the spring lands, the pads on the backing pl...
by Econoline
Sun May 06, 2018 11:27 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Starter solenoid acting wierd
Replies: 8
Views: 221

Re: Starter solenoid acting wierd

On the brakes, after having been gone through manual brakes work just fine. Under normal conditions drums are at least as good as discs. You do want a dual master for safety b/c it separates the front and back circuits. So if you have a leak you still have some brakes besides the e brake. The main t...
by Econoline
Sun May 06, 2018 11:15 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Starter solenoid acting wierd
Replies: 8
Views: 221

Re: Starter solenoid acting wierd

You bet, I'm here to help. Do those tests and report back. It's all pretty simple really and you'll see that when you get into it a little more. I'm not disparaging you, just coaxing you on ;) The fact that you are getting into figuring this all out at all tells me a lot about your character. It's l...
by Econoline
Sun May 06, 2018 10:45 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Starter solenoid acting wierd
Replies: 8
Views: 221

Re: Starter solenoid acting wierd

How could the starter running endlessly be caused by a bad battery cable(s)? Thats impossible. That was a coincidence. They're supposed to fail open. In other words it takes energy to make it and when it's gone it springs open. If it failed closed, which it could do like welded at the contacts or sh...
by Econoline
Sun May 06, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Clutch Shudder
Replies: 64
Views: 1461

Re: Clutch Shudder

Yeah for sure. Even $325 USD would be alot if you did it yourself with thinner plate. You can probably find a big enough piece of new scrap plate for ~$50 at the metal suppliers yard. Find a friend with a plasma cutter, metal band saw or even an o/a torch. With a descent jigsaw I bet you could cut o...
by Econoline
Sun May 06, 2018 9:13 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Aluminum Head Woes
Replies: 13
Views: 400

Re: Aluminum Head Woes

35# is probably overkill for the pedestals. That's around maximum torque for a grade 8 3/8" bolt. And being the aluminum head and the pedestals are aluminum or zinc/white metal 20-25# should do. With washers and locks 15# would probably be a plenty. A couple of the pedestals on my old 170 were ...
by Econoline
Sat May 05, 2018 12:34 am
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Clutch Shudder
Replies: 64
Views: 1461

Re: Clutch Shudder

It's been my understanding until it was refuted recently that all 200's are dual pattern except the early 8.5 pattern blocks. If anyone has a picture of a large pattern only block I want to see it. If you have or have had a large pattern only block I'd like to see a pic of it and hear about the deta...
by Econoline
Thu May 03, 2018 10:24 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Where to source rocker arms
Replies: 25
Views: 658

Re: Where to source rocker arms

Hey Matt, have you talked to Smith Brothers in Oregon? I know they've made custom pushrods for a few members with 250's that need ball and cup.
by Econoline
Thu May 03, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Question on building up new to me short block
Replies: 45
Views: 1005

Re: Question on building up new to me short block

That's interesting and good to know. It looks like the bolt holes line up but the ports are offset.
by Econoline
Thu May 03, 2018 10:19 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Clutch Shudder
Replies: 64
Views: 1461

Re: Clutch Shudder

If you have a pic of the back of your block when you go over there you'll be able to figure it out.
by Econoline
Thu May 03, 2018 10:12 am
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Starter solenoid acting wierd
Replies: 8
Views: 221

Re: Starter solenoid acting wierd

If the key is in the on position when this happens it sounds like the I and S terminals on the solenoid are hooked up backwards. The I terminal should have 2 wires connected to it, 1 to the coil + and one to ignition switch run; the S terminal should have 1 wire connected to ignition switch start. T...
by Econoline
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: It lives
Replies: 11
Views: 309

Re: It lives

That's a great looking engine. Nice work on the throttle, hose and line routing details. It's a good feeling when it fires up and all is good. I think it's very bold with the white paint. You'll know every leak if there is one :) :beer:
by Econoline
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:42 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Good set of plug wires??
Replies: 7
Views: 260

Re: Good set of plug wires??

The Moroso falcon six wires 8mm made in the USA @ the very reasonably price of less than $20. They give you coil wires for both canister and tfi type coils. I have these wires and no complaints. That latest review is mine, and I never review products. They're spark plug wires, they're cheap and they...
by Econoline
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Can I use a furniture dolly
Replies: 7
Views: 241

Re: Can I use a furniture dolly

An old tire works great in a pinch. And you can still move it around with some effort, at least on concrete.
by Econoline
Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 1967 Mustang I6 Upgrade to 240 CI
Replies: 11
Views: 354

Re: 1967 Mustang I6 Upgrade to 240 CI

That's also a '78 head, by the cast number D8BE in photo, then cast numbers C9DE-M, D5DE-BE, D7BE-AB in the description.....What are you selling JEG'S???? I can clearly see, 5 to 10 years we are screwed for parts..... I noticed that to. So I searched for a head for a 79 Fairmont 3.3 and it said it ...
by Econoline
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 1967 Mustang I6 Upgrade to 240 CI
Replies: 11
Views: 354

Re: 1967 Mustang I6 Upgrade to 240 CI

Something wrong with that listing, the description says 240, but the pictures show a large log falcon six head. Read further it states it is a 250 head. o yes that head should work but will likely need milled further for compression b/c those heads had bigger comb chambers than your stock head and t...
by Econoline
Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:56 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 1961 144 vs '68 200cid
Replies: 22
Views: 529

Re: 1961 144 vs '68 200cid

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There's the '64 3.03 bellhousing
by Econoline
Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:32 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 1961 144 vs '68 200cid
Replies: 22
Views: 529

Re: 1961 144 vs '68 200cid

What bubba said. But, I don't think it matters if it's a dual pattern block if you use the 8.5" clutch and bell, only if you go to a 9". Iow, the single pattern block is the small pattern and if you use your 144 flywheel and clutch, it won't matter. If I'm wrong about that, I'm sure bubba ...
by Econoline
Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:19 am
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Pushrod length
Replies: 10
Views: 281

Re: Pushrod length

Drgonzo wrote:I use this on my Mopar slant six. Easy enough to make.
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That's a good point. It's easy enough to make one out of an old pushrod :thumbup:
by Econoline
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:56 am
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Pushrod length
Replies: 10
Views: 281

Re: Pushrod length

What is your compression? It sounds like you are only under by whatever they decked off the block. You milled .075 off the head, where did that leave you, 50cc's? The original head was what, 48-54 cc's? and that D8 head was 62 when it was new. @ 2 cc's per .010" you're @ 47? Measuring it is the...
by Econoline
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:36 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Rear main rope seal
Replies: 8
Views: 282

Re: Rear main rope seal

It's looking good. White paint or is that the primer? Did you braze the 2v mod yourself? I'm preparing to do that. Any advice?
by Econoline
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:22 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 170 tune up mysteries
Replies: 20
Views: 564

Re: 170 tune up mysteries

Almost all sixes built in 1963 and newer will have hydraulic lifters and stock most of those are non adjustable rocker arms. Unless they were out of an Econoline or a Bronco. Those 170's all used solid lifters until '71 afaik. It's hard to imagine, but they were still installing 170's into 2nd gen ...
by Econoline
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:17 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: 4 Bent Push Rods. What the?
Replies: 9
Views: 326

Re: 4 Bent Push Rods. What the?

I think it must have been rocker adjustment or lifter issuses b/c only 4 and all bent so badly. If it were the springs or some other systemic problem they'd all be screwed up. That's partly why I opted for non adjustable valve train in the end on my build. I didn't want to fuss with it was the other...
by Econoline
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:14 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Engine rebuild is Finally Done!
Replies: 13
Views: 468

Re: Engine rebuild is Finally Done!

It looks great. Nice and tidy to :thumbup:
by Econoline
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Carter RBS
Replies: 5
Views: 268

Re: Carter RBS

He needed the oem 'orientation adapter'
by Econoline
Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:29 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Losing My Mind
Replies: 20
Views: 638

Re: Losing My Mind

People love or hate rockauto, I've had good experience with them. And when they did screw up once they fixed it. They have a far superior brand variety than any local auto parts store imo. At any rate, my post wasn't to buy from rockauto, but look at the parts and part #'s
by Econoline
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Losing My Mind
Replies: 20
Views: 638

Re: Losing My Mind

If you give up, I saw this on craigslist yesterday. I remember when the engine and c4 were listed, looks like the engine has been sold. I bet he'll let it go cheap. https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/pts/d/1965-ford-mustang/6529072244.html I feel your pain, that's a very frustrating ordeal. I notice...
by Econoline
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:02 am
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Fuel pump
Replies: 6
Views: 198

Re: Fuel pump

Sounds like an issue with the float or needle, maybe it's hanging up or set too high.
by Econoline
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Fuel pump
Replies: 6
Views: 198

Re: Fuel pump

The stock fuel pump should put out 4-6psi. What kind of issues are you having? If it's a fuel issue it's likely the carb or the intake sock in the tank or the filter. Carb issues on old cars are very common. Especially when they aren't run daily or weekly. The main thing is to be sure it is a fuel p...
by Econoline
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Replacement LOM vacuum line to distributor
Replies: 4
Views: 183

Re: Replacement LOM vacuum line to distributor

Like Bubba said, that is an inclusive ferrule type fitting used in heating pilot light applications mostly. It's called a breakaway ferrule, the ferrule separates from the nut after it is compressed the first time. I was in HVAC for almost 20 years. The line you are using is smaller than those 1/4&q...
by Econoline
Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Assemble questions
Replies: 9
Views: 286

Re: Assemble questions

Yeah, if you don't check you don't know what you've got or where your at

all the way down the line
by Econoline
Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:26 pm
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Rotella Triple Protection
Replies: 23
Views: 656

Re: Rotella Triple Protection

Don't get me wrong. Your preaching to choir ;) Brad Penn or whoever. That's what they do and I'm happy to support them. I don't think the green 'penn crude' they sell today is the same as it used to be and probably there's a good reason people trusted pennsylvania oil over everything else for engine...

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