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by peeeot
Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:56 am
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 compression ratio increase
Replies: 4
Views: 1352

223 compression ratio increase

I need to replace the head gasket on my 223 and am considering having the head milled while it is off to increase compression. It is my understanding that higher compression increases combustion efficiency, improving power, torque, and economy. I don't know what a good target would be--perhaps 9.0-9...
by peeeot
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:05 am
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Multi-carb hood clearance and a CFM question
Replies: 3
Views: 1326

Re: Multi-carb hood clearance and a CFM question

That makes sense about the volumetric efficiency. Larger Venturi area means less flow restriction, thus higher VE. I had a 57 and a 59 ford with the y-block; neither hood seemed as tight as the 60 but then neither car had the 6! If the downdraft carbs won't fit on the offy intake, I suppose I could ...
by peeeot
Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:58 am
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: AC, alternator and power steering brackets for 223.
Replies: 27
Views: 5677

Re: AC, alternator and power steering brackets for 223.

Looks very professional!

Where did you source a dual-sheave crank pulley?
by peeeot
Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:54 am
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 "performance" expectation management
Replies: 33
Views: 9923

Re: 223 "performance" expectation management

Ok, thanks! I will plan to change the muffler at my next opportunity. I will also check my exhaust pipe size, not sure if it's 2" or smaller. I am planning to pull the engine soon. The head gasket is leaking a little coolant outside the block, and while I could repair it in-car, I'm thinking ab...
by peeeot
Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:15 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 "performance" expectation management
Replies: 33
Views: 9923

Re: 223 "performance" expectation management

Bubba, you mentioned earlier in this thread that a free-flowing exhaust and electronic ignition are great first mods. With regards to the exhaust, for an otherwise stock engine, would you say switching to headers is worth the trouble? Would there be a substantial improvement from just replacing the ...
by peeeot
Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:50 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 "performance" expectation management
Replies: 33
Views: 9923

Re: 223 "performance" expectation management

Hi Arthur, do you know whether those usual mods reduce or increase low- to mid-range power and responsiveness? I have read that most power-adding hop ups increase top end power at the expense of performance in the range most daily-driven car really see. If I am going to make modifications, I would l...
by peeeot
Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:37 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Multi-carb hood clearance and a CFM question
Replies: 3
Views: 1326

Multi-carb hood clearance and a CFM question

Does anyone know whether the offy multi carb setups will fit under the hood of a 1960 full size ford? Clearance is tight! Also, according to the math, a 223 only needs about 230 cfm at 4500rpm and 80% volumetric efficiency. If the stock 1904 flows about 215 CFM, why are people seeing such improvemen...
by peeeot
Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:27 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Air-cooled Cruiseomatic behind a 223
Replies: 9
Views: 2492

Re: Air-cooled Cruiseomatic behind a 223

Daves55courier, I have never seen nor heard of another inline-six powered ford with the 3-speed cast-iron cruiseomatic nor a 3.10 final drive ratio, but then my experience is pretty narrow. When the weather warms up I want to get under the car and record the data plate numbers on the transmission to...
by peeeot
Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:33 am
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Cooling system upgrades when adding a/c
Replies: 6
Views: 2190

Re: Cooling system upgrades when adding a/c

Finally, an update! I brought the radiator in to a shop to have it cleaned and checked. They said it was flowing fine and should be able to handle the extra cooling load from the a/c ok. I also checked the thermostat and found a 160-degree unit with obvious stress cracking. I have obtained a 180 deg...
by peeeot
Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:33 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 "performance" expectation management
Replies: 33
Views: 9923

Re: 223 "performance" expectation management

55courier, I have my initial timing set much higher, somewhere around 20 degrees BTDC. It makes a little difference in liveliness without any downsides I can recognize. As for the 3.10 rear gear, it works because the transmission is the 3-speed cruise-o, not the 2-speed fordo. So first gear is much ...
by peeeot
Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:05 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Cooling system upgrades when adding a/c
Replies: 6
Views: 2190

Cooling system upgrades when adding a/c

My '60 Fairlane is having trouble keeping cool with the a/c on, even (especially) at highway speeds. It does not overheat but the temp moves into the higher third of the 'normal' bar where it is normally in the lower third. It will also puke coolant from the surge tank if it isn't allowed to cool of...
by peeeot
Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:29 pm
Forum: Body, Paint, & Interior
Topic: Trunk weatherstrip for 1960 Fairlane
Replies: 4
Views: 2531

Re: Trunk weatherstrip for 1960 Fairlane

I am confident that the seal will mount to the trunk lid. I feel like it would make more sense to open the C away from the trunk, but I'm just not sure. I'll try to get a picture of the strip, the lid, and the trunk lip to clarify what I'm working with.
by peeeot
Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:22 pm
Forum: Body, Paint, & Interior
Topic: Trunk weatherstrip for 1960 Fairlane
Replies: 4
Views: 2531

Re: Trunk weatherstrip for 1960 Fairlane

Thanks bubba! On that car, is the seal glued to the trunk lid or to the body?
by peeeot
Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:57 am
Forum: Body, Paint, & Interior
Topic: Trunk weatherstrip for 1960 Fairlane
Replies: 4
Views: 2531

Trunk weatherstrip for 1960 Fairlane

I bought some new trunk lid weatherstrip from Macs and it has a c-shaped cross section. Does anyone know whether the opening of the C is supposed to go in toward the trunk or out toward the elements? Web browsing has yielded conflicting results.
by peeeot
Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:05 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 "performance" expectation management
Replies: 33
Views: 9923

Re: 223 "performance" expectation management

An AOD with a more aggressive axle ratio would be really nice, and also really expensive. I just took the old bird out for a drive to warm it up for a compression test, and actually on country roads I'm pretty pleased with its performance. It doesn't feel like a slug when you are driving casually. I...
by peeeot
Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:47 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 "performance" expectation management
Replies: 33
Views: 9923

Re: 223 "performance" expectation management

I appreciate the detailed response :) I can imagine that the auto trans eats a lot of the engine's limited oomph. I have not looked at the ID tag on the transmission but I have never seen the Cruiseo offered with a 6 so it may even be a V8-duty transmission, which would probably be worse still. In s...
by peeeot
Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:23 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 "performance" expectation management
Replies: 33
Views: 9923

Re: 223 "performance" expectation management

Thanks for the confirmation! Is the experience much different with a manual? I'm guessing the manuals typically have a higher axle ratio which should help with the pep. Next big question is, how much difference can I expect the usual hop-up items to really make? The closest thing I have to compare w...
by peeeot
Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:41 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: 223 "performance" expectation management
Replies: 33
Views: 9923

223 "performance" expectation management

My recently acquired 1960 Fairlane is my first experience with a six in a fullsize. It has a Cruisomatic and 3.10 axle ratio. The carburetion and ignition are stock (and original!) but have been throughly checked and optimized as best they can be without changing the equipment. The engine has 94000 ...
by peeeot
Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:20 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Pulley Spacing
Replies: 4
Views: 1428

Re: Pulley Spacing

I ended up buying the 1/2" spacer and having it machined down to 1/4". It aligned the pulleys just right, and the A/C is blowing cold!
by peeeot
Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:34 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Air-cooled Cruiseomatic behind a 223
Replies: 9
Views: 2492

Air-cooled Cruiseomatic behind a 223

My 1960 Fairlane 500 has an air cooled 3-speed dual-range cruiseomatic behind its 223, along with a 3.10 final drive. The data plate in the door jamb is coded for this combination, but I have found no reference to this drivetrain combo ever being offered. Even the factory manual only provides info f...
by peeeot
Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:26 pm
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Pulley Spacing
Replies: 4
Views: 1428

Re: Pulley Spacing

Thanks for your suggestion. The shortest spacer I have been able to find is 1/2". I have ordered it and if it's a bit too long I will see about having it shaved down at a machine shop.
by peeeot
Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:56 am
Forum: Vintage Ford Sixes
Topic: Pulley Spacing
Replies: 4
Views: 1428

Pulley Spacing

I am trying to add a second belt for my a/c compressor on my '60 223. I bought a 289 2-sheave water pump pulley that is 5/16" deeper than the stock pulley. My plan was to run a belt from the water pump to the compressor. I know there are shims I can purchase to get the groove spacing right, and...
by peeeot
Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:31 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: 3.03 differences - V8 vs. 6 Cylinder
Replies: 6
Views: 1056

I had a 3.03 on my 200 until just recently. The input shaft has 10 splines, the output has 28, if I remember correctly. I don't know the length of the input shaft, but I do know that my car had been given a '67 aluminum bellhousing, 9" clutch disc and pressure plate, and MAYBE a different flywheel i...
by peeeot
Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:52 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Toploader Overdrive Installed!
Replies: 6
Views: 1814

This is actually a different transmission than the SROD, or single rail overdrive. I'm not familiar with those transmissions, but I know that it's not the same thing. My unit looks exactly like a 4-speed toploader except for a different bolt pattern for shifter mounting and a bulge in the case to ac...
by peeeot
Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:09 am
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Transmission noise
Replies: 1
Views: 486

Transmission noise

Each of the 4 forward gears on my transmission sound a bit different. 1st and 2nd have a sort of whine to them which sounds related to the noise that one gets when coasting down in those gears. I have always associated this noise with the synchronizers, and considered it normal. 3rd gear usually doe...
by peeeot
Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:55 am
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Toploader Overdrive Installed!
Replies: 6
Views: 1814

Toploader Overdrive Installed!

On Monday I finally got around to installing the 3 speed + overdrive Toploader I picked up a while ago in my Mustang. I was expecting a direct bolt-in, and in many respects it was, but of course it's the unforseen problems that sneek up and bite you. In my case, I had two problems. First off, I had ...
by peeeot
Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:31 am
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Quick transmission question
Replies: 1
Views: 562

Just thought I'd post to say that the bearing caps were the same size, and the hole in the bellhousing seems to be just a hair larger than either of them so that it's a tight fit but not a press fit.
by peeeot
Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:44 pm
Forum: Brakes, Wheels, and Tires
Topic: Brake troubleshooting
Replies: 16
Views: 2736

I've been slow to update this thread! I installed new brake shoes up front and the brakes are enormously improved. The pedal feel is much better and I feel confident that the self-adjusters are working properly now. I have a couple small complaints. One is a very slight pull to the left, which is at...
by peeeot
Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:38 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Quick transmission question
Replies: 1
Views: 562

Quick transmission question

Does anyone know the diameter of the circular hole for the manual transmission front bearing cap of the 1967-style 200 aluminum bellhousing? The bearing cap on my 3+1 O/D is about 4.75" in diameter and I want to make sure it will fit my bellhousing before going through the trouble to remove the curr...
by peeeot
Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:45 pm
Forum: Brakes, Wheels, and Tires
Topic: Brake troubleshooting
Replies: 16
Views: 2736

Update! Several days ago I built up a level surface on all of the backing plate friction areas with JB weld. I also adjusted the brakes out until the wheel would rotate one revolution before stopping. The pedal was low to begin with, but it came up higher after many reverse stops. After those two ch...
by peeeot
Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:29 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: 3-4 synchro spring
Replies: 5
Views: 957

I finally got some pictures taken. I was thinking the same thing as you, addo, but if that's what it is, I'm still confused, because its location means that the only thing it could act on is the blocking ring, and it is never desirable to have something exerting a constant outward push on the blocki...
by peeeot
Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:59 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: 3-4 synchro spring
Replies: 5
Views: 957

The part I'm talking about isn't pictured in the exploded view. It is permanently affixed to the synchro hub itself, and is sandwiched in between the hub and the blocking ring. I called David Kee to ask him about it. He seemed to have encountered it, but didn't know why it was there and couldn't see...
by peeeot
Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:56 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: 3-4 synchro spring
Replies: 5
Views: 957

3-4 synchro spring

Is anyone familiar with 4-speed Ford-design toploader transmissions? My 3+1 has a spring of some sort riveted to the 3rd gear (overdrive) side of the 3-4 synchro hub. It seems to be broken, forcing the brass blocking ring against the gear cone at an angle. I can't see any reason for this spring to b...
by peeeot
Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:52 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Losing my mind--input shaft removal
Replies: 1
Views: 438

Never mind, I got it. Had to remove the thrust washers from either side of the cluster gear. I don't think I should have had to, but whatever gets the job done...
by peeeot
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:13 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: Losing my mind--input shaft removal
Replies: 1
Views: 438

Losing my mind--input shaft removal

Guys, I just about blew all my gaskets today trying to perform what should have been a 15 minute task. I spent at least 6 hours time working to no avail. I have a faux-toploader 3+1 OD transmission. All I'm trying to do is remove the input shaft so that I can get at the 3/4 synchronizer assembly. I ...
by peeeot
Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:19 pm
Forum: Brakes, Wheels, and Tires
Topic: Brake troubleshooting
Replies: 16
Views: 2736

Before driving today, I got under the front of the car and adjusted the front screws until I couldn't turn them anymore, then took them in about 5 clicks. The improvement was immediate and marked. At first, actually, the brakes became very noisy, but that soon went away. The pedal action was much hi...
by peeeot
Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:25 am
Forum: Brakes, Wheels, and Tires
Topic: Brake troubleshooting
Replies: 16
Views: 2736

I didn't know that could happen with brake hoses. I'll look into replacing those ASAP, unless adjustment eliminates problems. Is there a point at which the self-adjusters will not be able to operate if they are too far out of adjustment? I know they don't work if no adjustment is needed, and are sup...
by peeeot
Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:09 am
Forum: Brakes, Wheels, and Tires
Topic: Brake troubleshooting
Replies: 16
Views: 2736

If my drums are out of round, shouldn't vibrations get worse when I push harder on the pedal rather than better? Also, shouldn't the vibration response be consistent in strength and frequency, varying with road speed? I don't know whether my brakes are adjusted properly. The self-adjuster mechanism ...
by peeeot
Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:29 pm
Forum: Brakes, Wheels, and Tires
Topic: Brake troubleshooting
Replies: 16
Views: 2736

Brake troubleshooting

The brakes on my car have never been really satisfactory, but I don't think that's just because they're 4-wheel drums without power assist. I have driven other 4-wheel drum cars that lacked these problems, which are as follows: 1. pulling to one side. It pulls right more often than it pulls left, bu...
by peeeot
Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:03 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: t5 alternative?
Replies: 11
Views: 2190

Very good to know. This brings me to another question. What rpm is too low for this engine to pull from with light throttle? Or, I might more easily ask, when do you shift? I usually shift around 2350-2500 rpm, so that the revs drop to 1400 or so in the next gear. Sometimes I feel like 1400 is too l...
by peeeot
Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:14 am
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: t5 alternative?
Replies: 11
Views: 2190

Fantastic! You mean I won't have to modify my speedometer drive at all?! I guess when David Kee said the drive was on "the wrong side" he meant the right side for me :) How do you like the transmission? I'm sure your experience is quite different than mine will be, since I have 3.20 gears and a stoc...
by peeeot
Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:50 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: t5 alternative?
Replies: 11
Views: 2190

Well, I bought the 3+1. When I got to it and took measurements, everything was a perfect match for my 3.03 except for the shifter positioning, but that particular measurement was taken haphazard and it's possible that I didn't repeat it properly. What's more, it shouldn't be hard at all to relocate ...
by peeeot
Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:12 pm
Forum: drive train tech
Topic: T-5 Conversion Swap for a 200 1966 Block with a 1967 Bell
Replies: 32
Views: 23387

You are quite right! The bolt that was still "installed" was just 1" long and the threaded hole had another inch to go, so I bought a pair of 2" bolts and matching lockwashers and installed them. They held fine, and I was sure to torque them on the light side. I couldn't believe how different the ca...
by peeeot
Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:53 am
Forum: 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance
Topic: Should I be concerned about this engine?
Replies: 9
Views: 1377

All right, I will take your advice. All I'm really concerned about is coolant getting in the oil and thinning out and whatever else it does to engine lubrication. I suppose the leak is slow enough that even if it is mixing with the oil it might not be enough to mess things up. I'll see how it looks ...
by peeeot
Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:46 am
Forum: drive train tech
Topic: T-5 Conversion Swap for a 200 1966 Block with a 1967 Bell
Replies: 32
Views: 23387

TMc--No, I wouldn't call it a granny gear, more of the opposite. It feels like I'm starting in second gear, that is to say a gear that is numerically too low to be a good 1st gear. I have to ride the clutch out in order to get the car rolling a bit before I allow the clutch to fully engage or the wh...
by peeeot
Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:31 am
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: t5 alternative?
Replies: 11
Views: 2190

I see what you're saying, addo. The T5 swap would have a higher outlay and would be easily reversed EXCEPT for the almost certainly needed driveshaft modification. It's looking like the 3+1 would require no modification at all. I'll find out tomorrow. I don't know which will be better for gas. I thi...
by peeeot
Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:45 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: t5 alternative?
Replies: 11
Views: 2190

I've asked about a shift linkage. The seller indicated that there should be a Hurst shifter for it that had been test-installed somewhere on hand. I'm not banking on that. I think the only difference in the linkage is a reversal of the 3rd/4th shift lever, making it such that moving the lever into 4...
by peeeot
Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:13 pm
Forum: drive train tech
Topic: T-5 Conversion Swap for a 200 1966 Block with a 1967 Bell
Replies: 32
Views: 23387

I'm pretty sure it's a 3.20 axle. I tested my vehicle speeds at 1500 rpm in each gear, and it was approx. 13 in 1st, 23 in 2nd, and 38 in 3rd. I used one of those posted radar clocking sign things that cops put up to warn you that you're speeding and compared its reading with my speedo. I think my s...
by peeeot
Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:26 pm
Forum: Transmission & Drivetrain
Topic: t5 alternative?
Replies: 11
Views: 2190

t5 alternative?

I believe I've stumbled across one of the late 70s overdrive toploaders referenced here: http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/imposters.htm for $200. I'm considering it as an alternative to the T5 swap because I enjoy my 3-speed but I like the ratios (3.29 1st, 1.84 2nd, 1.00 3rd, .81 4th, and 3.29 Rev...
by peeeot
Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:07 pm
Forum: drive train tech
Topic: T-5 Conversion Swap for a 200 1966 Block with a 1967 Bell
Replies: 32
Views: 23387

Thanks a lot for your thorough response Robert. To clarify, I've found a craigslist posting that contains all the parts needed to convert an automatic Fox body into a T5 fox body. My mustang is a '66 with a 3.03 and such, but I was just listing some of the many parts included with the transmission, ...