250 with a C4

NJRANCH

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:?: I have a 250 six from a '69 Mustang and a C4 from a '71 302 Mustang that I want to use in my '63 Ranchero. What I don't have is a flexplate, block plate, or torque converter. Does this case fill C4 call for a 157 tooth flex plate? Would a SBF flexplate without weights work? How about a converter from a SBF? I'm not sure what I need to put this combination together. If anyone can suggest a source for the parts I need or has them available for sale, please let me know. Thanks
 
IIRC you can use a flex plate from a 300 inline six as it is neutral balance as well.

I dont know how many teeth you need. I thought it was important to know how many teeth just so you can get the correct starter. They seem to make 157 tooth and 164 tooth in 28 oz and 50 oz imbalance.

I know with my 86 Mustang with 302 I had a heck of a time finding the right starter. I dont think any two parts on the car came from the same year so it was a headache to figure out which one was which.

I have also been told you can remove the imbalance weights to make it neutral.
 
From what I've seen case fill C4's use the 157 tooth and the pan fill C4's use a 164. I've got a similar situation a 250 and a few C4's from behind bent8's, you can use the bent8 block plate and torque converter, even the starter should work. You will have to decide whether it's in your best interest to modify (remove weight) a bent8 flex plate or buy a correct one. Last time I checked a new/correct flexplate was about $45 (look up a mid to late 70's Grenada 250/C4)

-ron
 
Thanks for the input. Does anyone know if the bolt pattern for the flexplate on the back of the crank is the same for the 250 and the SBF? I have seen SBF flexplates offered without weights.
 
It should bolt right up. I've never seen SBF flexplates with removable weights, I've seen SBF flywheels with interchangeable/removable weights but those are only for manual transmissions.

-ron
 
CoupeBoy":2b5rjwly said:
It should bolt right up. I've never seen SBF flexplates with removable weights, I've seen SBF flywheels with interchangeable/removable weights but those are only for manual transmissions.

-ron

By removable you had to grind off the weld bead that held the weight on to remove it.

Moot point now as you can buy them without the weights.
 
Anlushac11":38cnln3p said:
By removable you had to grind off the weld bead that held the weight on to remove it.
No, I was talking about aluminum flywheels like This on on eBay where they are actually removable. See toward the bottom where they show both the 28 and 50oz weights. Just leave them off for zero imbalance.

-ron
 
A 250 flywheel or flexplate is exactly the same as a SBF other than it's neutral balanced. ie...no weights.
You use either the 164 tooth or 157 tooth flexplates/flywheels.
Obviously your bellhousing must match this size of the flexplate/flywheel.

Will
 
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