Duraspark Q. (Single versus Dual Vac.)

james singleton

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I am sure this question has been asked before, but when do you need the single vacuum advance on the Duraspark dizzy versus the dual vacuum advance??? Does it depend on what type of carb you are using or what??? Thanks, Jim
 
The dual advance is for smog control. One port advances, the other retards. But you can use a dual advance dizzy with any engine. Just use the advance port only...it's the one coming straight out from the can. :nod:
 
If you are leaving your car stock and it came with a dual get another dual otherwise get the single. Like Page said if you already have the dual you could make it work without the emissions controls.
 
Thanks guys! I do not presently have a Duraspark dizzy but am thinking about the swap. Presently I have a single vacuum advance on my L.O.M. dizzy, but wanted to know if it made any difference as far as getting the single or dual advance if I happened to get a dual vac (@ the junkyard). If I hook up only to the one vac outlet, is it necessary to plug off the other outlet?? Bort, you said that you took the vac advance off! How is that; can you explain?? Don't you need one hooked up for advance of the engine under load?? Thanks again! Jim
 
james singleton":1bptbrqu said:
Thanks guys! I do not presently have a Duraspark dizzy but am thinking about the swap. Presently I have a single vacuum advance on my L.O.M. dizzy, but wanted to know if it made any difference as far as getting the single or dual advance if I happened to get a dual vac (@ the junkyard). If I hook up only to the one vac outlet, is it necessary to plug off the other outlet?? Bort, you said that you took the vac advance off! How is that; can you explain?? Don't you need one hooked up for advance of the engine under load?? Thanks again! Jim

I am a bad example.

Vacuum advance works by advancing the ignition timing under low-load conditions. The outcome of this is generally higher economy and better part-throttle response. It has no effect on WOT performance. None.

At WOT, the vacuum advance may as well not be there as you are in a high load condition with very little vacuum. No Vac - No pull - no advance.

I removed the vacuum advance from my distributor (and welded the plate in place) because I am tuning for WOT. Because I am turbocharged, I haven't taken the time to try and figure out a way to get the vac advance working w/ the boost.

So I took it off, with no negative effect on WOT performance. I am not concerned with economy or part throttle response at this time.

So, like I said, I am a bad example. I would recommend running a vacuum advance attached to manifold vacuum.
 
This is where I'll hop aboard the thread. Thanks James for some good questions.. This is a case for me where the forum search worked as intended. I don't often look around the small six forums.

I am using a 300 six, with a single advance DII dizzy. The advance unit is toast, but I do have another donor dizzy that has a dual advance unit.

With my vacuum pump, i confirmed the earlier post about the top port retarding timing, while the normal front one advanced it. Are the stock vacuum advance diaphragms adjustable via the allan key method?

As James asked, I am also wondering if any effort need be made to plug the top port.

Further, there seems to be conflicting information about vacuum source. Borte, you state manifold vacuum is the way to go, but wont that give a higher advance at idle? Why no ported? Wondering if there are pros and cons to both.

In my situation, I run propane, which needs a lower total advance, all in at an earlier RPM. Thinking that using manifold vacuum for the advance would allow me to use a lower static advance -thus providing a lower total advance artificially before recurving a gas dizzy to give me something closer towhat I need-.

I realize the last question/point is threatening a partial hijack of the thread, but all additional information is good for reference and for all of our knowledge base, right? :D

Thanks
 
Craigwell":cyt49ugd said:
As James asked, I am also wondering if any effort need be made to plug the top port.

Thanks

I wouldn't. It would restrict movement of the advance mechanism, according to what I have read.
 
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