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Stormin' Norman

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We've got a unique phenomenan here when it gets below -40C (-40F). Its so significant, that the morning traffic reports warn drivers to be extra careful about Exhaust Vapour Crystals. When you're in traffic, you can't see the car in front of you.

When you accelerate, the vapour moves away, but it looks like it falls on the road surface. The more frequented streets are also slicker, even though natural ice crystals are also landing, at these temperatures.

As you drive, the instantly freezing vapour accumulates around the exhaust pipe(s), and builds up (or down) like long stalagmites in a cave, near the fender well or edge of the bumper. They don't seem to end up floating into the air!

So how can we freeze exhaust fumes and turn them into solubles!!!???

If ethanol or gasoline emit Nitrous Oxides, Methanes and various carbon/oxygen (CO and CO2), how can we use or change them to freeze the emissions?

Does it take heat or gaseous conversion? If so how? If not what else can be done to make them sequentially useful. Nitrogen can deep freeze in seconds, right? Most methane types (propane, acetylene, natural gas, actually frost up the bottle when left in hot sunlight).

I just have a feeling that there's a simple method of castrating the many emissions that our older cars ?may? emit. :evil:

Our Prime Minister announced today that they'll be imposing new emission standards (AKA get rid of old cars/trucks) and put in legislation to improve fuel standards to reduce emissions. He won't enact any legislation to control his constituents in his own riding who run and own the huge Oil Patch in Alberta, though. :twisted: :evil: :?
 
You're only seeing the water coming out of the exhaust freeze. NOX, CO2, CO, etc are not freezing.
 
Yeah, I know, but it is catching some of the soot, which suggests that turning these nasty emissions (Nitrogen) or modifying them might capture them too.

I just wrote to some heavy-hitters at one of our Engineering schools to see if they have any comments. I've got out Provincial Conservation Minister on-side and he may make some informed enquiries. What will happen here is that the Feds will issue a National edict, and the Provinces will get dumped on to meet the edict.

It's not a big deal, here. We don't even have a pollution count, and have never had smog. Our big numbers are UV ratings and pollen counts. But, since we are a small Province (population-wise) 1.1 million, and we have this cold, year after year, we can test any development that comes along, with both severe heat and cold extremes.

If it could be converted into a 'Dry Ice' material, you could fill up at a Filling Station and Empty this waste for further processing (maybe methane/ butane or newer Freon-type gasses.

I don't know where this idea can go, but here's where European and US divisions in Europe are going:

October 2006: Most car brands fail on CO2: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6076800.stm
February 7, 2007: Companies fight new standards: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6337057.stm
February 7, 2007: Then they attack them: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6339915.stm
February 7, 2007: Then they blame drivers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6339111.stm
February 7, 2007: Ford Europe says we should choose which emissions to have: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5196020.stm
 
Funny how CO2, which plants need to survive, has become a 'poison'.
Can't we drive cars with plants on them?
Or, if we change the climate enough to kill enough people, won't that solve the problem, too?
 
Craig, I think I've found a way to do it. Years ago, this company was a technology transfer client (we negotiated investments and royalty licenses, as well as wrote patents) Today, my wife and I make bird houses and bat houses and special yard gates.

The Coal and Gas industry provide the fuel for many Power generators throughout the world. I never thought about their technology until today. Their process, believe it or not is based on the WWII buzz-bomb. Today its called Pulse Combustion. It takes the smokestack fumes and hits it with sound and air pulses that it amplifies internally, but as an add-on to an existing chimney. As part of its function, in their case, it actually converts the gasses into re-useable forms. In the case of coal, it takes out the NOX, the CO, the CO2, the Hydrogen AND the Sulfur. It converts the sulfur into fertilizer grade sulfur. The others are contained to be reused in the refining process or can be burnt off.

Imagine going to the gas station and trading your fumes for gasoline!

Here's the link: http://www.clean-energy.com/

I see that they just signed their first major deal with Hong Kong. Check out their News Room menu for others. All my contacts were forced out, when they reorganized. But I'll see if I can call in a few favours.
 
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