HELP! I can't find 1965 Mustang 3 bolt starter!

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My starter finally died last week after 42 years. I've looked at all of the auto parts places I could think of. Napa said they had one last Friday and today it can't be found. National Parts Depot does not have one either.

ere is a pic of the bolt setup. There is a number on it ACE C-2767.

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Thanks for the help!

Drew
 
I find it hard to believe that none of the parts places near you have a starter, all the ones around me stock them...
 
I'm not sure how soon you need this but you could always order one from NAPA

I did order one from Napa, but they sent me an e-mail today saying they have it on back order and they have no idea when it would come in, so I was refunded.

I find it hard to believe that none of the parts places near you have a starter, all the ones around me stock them...

I can find 2 bolt starters all day long, but my starter is a 3 bolt, which was only made for 3 or 4 months in 1965.
 
The three bolt was used on all the pre-66 200, 170, and 144s. 1960-1965. An alternative is a gear reduction starter from a 390. Make sure the unit is designed so you can rotate the body on the front plate. I've got one in the Squire, and it was the end of my occasional hot start issues. Do a search on gear eduction starters here.
Rick(wrench)
 
Dark Spire,

If the bushing in your 3-bolt nose is not the cause of your problem, swap noses from a 2-bolt starter. There are only 2 bolts that hold the nose on. Just don't let the armiture slide out of the brushes.

I used to use 3-bolt police interceptor starters to start my high compression tri-power engine by swapping noses. I'm not saying it will work in your instance but it may be worth a try.
 
I found a 3 bolt starter from autopartswarehouse.com. Hopefully this one last another 42 years, but if it doesn't I may try the nose swap.

Thanks for the help!

Drew
 
I bought a "new" 2 bolt starter and it crapped out on me after a few months. I had an old 3 bolt laying around (like, really old).

I swapped the 2 bolt nose onto the 3 bolt body, and it's been working great.
 
I bought a new 3 bolt starter from Advance auto 2 weeks ago. They wad to order it from the factory... took about 3 days to get it shipped to the store.

Funny.... engine is 1978 200 but of course requires the 1965 starter due to the bellhousing and TC.
 
have your's rebuilt at a starter alt. gen. shop they are everywhere, probably cheaper too
 
I spent the past couple days looking at starters and the various manufacturers. Eventually I found one I liked and we are working out the details so we can carry them in stock.

There are a lot of companies making aftermarket mini starters for the performance industry. The vast majority of these starters are based on Hitachi or Nippon Denso designs. These designs originated in Japan about 30 years ago. Today, many of these starters, while based on the Japanese designs, are actually made in China.

Classic Inlines will be selling a mini starter which is built in the USA and is based on a more modern, American design. By using a permanent magnet motor and planetary gear reduction, these mini starters are lighter, smaller, have more gear reduction, and make more power.

Most "adjustable" mini starters can be rotated, but only within a limited number of possible positions. These starters also must be partially disassembled before they can be rotated. The Classic Inlines starters can be rotated to any position, without taking the starter apart, and in many cases without removing the starter from the engine!

Unlike OEM planetary gear reduced starters which use only three planetary gears, these starters use four planetary gears increasing resistance to kick-back by 33%. They also have a 5:1 ratio compared to the industry standard of 4.4:1 04 3.7:1, plus the pinion gear and solenoid can be easily replaced, without taking the starter apart.

We hope to have them in stock, for both manual and automatic applications, within a couple weeks. The price will be $240, plus shipping. Replacement solenoids or gears $20 each.

If anyone is interested and orders one within the next week, I'll knock $15 bucks off the price.
NOTE: It may take a couple weeks to deliver.

Weight: 8 lbs
Power: 2.3hp
Ratio: 5:1
Width: 2 7/8"
Height: 5 1/2"
Length: 7 11/16" (auto) to 8 1/16" (manual)

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I have a 3bolt starter on my engine... they had a couple at the advance auto near me.
 
A couple months ago I had to replace my 3 bolt starter on a 1978 engine.....My local Car Quest had one in stock. :D
 
:D A little FYI here.We have a pretty good starter and alternator repair shop locally.Family owned shop.Been in the business for over 50 years.
Father and sons.They told me that the ONLY difference in Ford starters,wether for a 144 or 460 is the nosecone.So feel safe to mix and match.Oh yeah,difference in Bendix(R) for std or auto tranny.
Leo
 
I am now faced with this exact problem and although I have read this entire blog, which is very helpfull, is it fair to say that it does not matter whether the car is STD or AUTO? I only ask because I have tried twice to order the correct starter but I keep getting sent the 2-bolt version that will simply not fit the 3-bolt face.

Any guidance would be much appreciated. My car is 1966 200ci 4-speed MT.

Thanks very much.

~Anthony
 
P365Mustang":1bt0mmy2 said:
I take it then that the starter for the MAN or AUTO is the same ... the key os to ensure you are getting the 3-bolt vice the 2-bolt?

when I ask for a man. trans. starter I get a 2-bolt. likewise, when I ask for an auto it has been a 3-bolt. your four speed must be the difference. the three speed manual trans I had was a 2-bolt.
 
I think the difference is not so much the 4 SPD but that the block and bellhousing is from late '65 rather than '66. I talked to my "Mustang" guy (friend of Dad's) and that's his theroy. Bottom line was that if it looks the same as the old starter it will work. The Bendix that goes into an automatic looks different (or so I am told).

Thanks for the help!

~Anthony
 
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