Impco vs. GasResearch

MADXF

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At the moment my car (XF EFI) is running dual fual using an Impco 200 mixer. A little while ago I bought myself a complete gasresearch system to suit an XF and am coming up to the time to put it in. Waiting for dizzy to be rebuilt and recurved.

My question is, would it really be worth changing to the GRA mixer (s400) or should I just stick with the Impco and run it dedicated?

Thanks.
Paul
 
Stick with what you have if it's rated a to 207 hp net (154 kW) like I think it is. Check my posts on the XE I have. I've never had a lean backfire with my CA300 432 CFM carb, and it's got perfect chamber filling with the adaptor I have. On a silly twin-throat Weber intake, no less.

The issue for me is the cost of the potentially better GRA carb. The CA 225 (207 hp max) and CA300 (216 or 270 hp, 161 or 201 kW), and CA 425 Impco carbs (287 HP, 214 Kw) are better as stock replacement carbs on sixes and V8's, with a lot more work required to get them running well in a hot six cylinder car due to there inability to cope with big cams and poor vacuum off idle. The GRA carbs are much more adjustable when you buy the Century converter they have to run with. So swapping the whole set up is not a cheap proposition when your already running an L or E -convertor.

There are some other matters. A single GRA carb is not well placed on the stock Cain/Redline or 34 ADM 2-barrel intake manifold with an XF carby engine. The flow is biased because of the sharp 90 degree bend. This is not a good idea. Secondly, the EFI Falcon plenumb, even with its nice long runners and even though its often much better than the silly idea of putting a CA 425 four feet from the intake valves like on dual fuel XE/XF LPG engines...the GRA carb is not a good prospect. The after market need to work on some rat roaster intake manifolds like the Z/28 Cross Ram and 262 V6 Bowtie manifolds, reworked for the in-line sixes. It' s beyond the blokes that build them at the moment, they've got bigger fish to fry.

The Gas Research carbs are the best thing around, and will grow and grow in popularity, especially with the street machine set who don't like wall to wall electronics. The rack and pinion system, and the ability to run two carbs phased to perfection, is well up on any thing Impco can do at the moment. They have no electronic idle assistance or any interface units yet, but they surely will soon. And when some figures out how to make them work in dual fuel set-ups, they'll sell like hot cakes!
 
Correct me if Im wrong but all the LPG systems I have seen all restrict the air flow to cause some sort of vucuum signal to draw out the lpg.
The GRA lpg carb is about the only system thatr can produce good power with out resorting to some very expensive systems.
Noel.
 
Correcty mo. It has a different kind of system, I think. It is less likely to need good vacuum and a hi-stall ratio to work well on hi-po cars. Clever beggars. I'd like a few in my engine bay...


I guess the difference is similar to old Bosch K Jetronic injection sysytems which had the air vane. It was a nessecary evil until MAP sensors and fully EFI didn't suffer this restriction. But I want to see Ford usea GRA unit if its that good.
 
Politics is always a factor in the choice by any manufacturer. Then price!
Noel.
 
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