All Small Six Need Help Finding a Mini Starter

[Slurp]

I have a 1965 Mustang Coupe running a 200 ci Engine, and a C4 Automatic 3 speed transmission. It’s my daily driver, and I plan to keep it that way. The engine is pretty much stock besides that it has electronic ignition. Im looking to supe it up a little by adding dual exhaust headers. However, I have heard a lot about clearance issues with the original starter getting to close to the headers. I was wondering if you guys could point me in the right direction for a ministarter, and would appreciate any guidance.

 

[65coupei6]

I have a 1965 Mustang Coupe running a 200 ci Engine, and a C4 Automatic 3 speed transmission. It’s my daily driver, and I plan to keep it that way. The engine is pretty much stock besides that it has electronic ignition. Im looking to supe it up a little by adding dual exhaust headers. However, I have heard a lot about clearance issues with the original starter getting to close to the headers. I was wondering if you guys could point me in the right direction for a ministarter, and would appreciate any guidance.

Power Master. https://fordsix.com/threads/engine-rebuild-is-finally-done.78240/

Scroll down in the link above and you will see a pic. We use the Ford FE starter.

 

[wsa111]

Check with Summit.

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[Slurp]

Thank you guys for the help, I really appreciate it

 

[drag-200stang]

Check out power master 9106, It should fit also, but this style is a little longer and narrower and about 2 lbs lighter.

 

[wsa111]

I saw a post that a 96 mustang v6 3.8L starter will work???? Not sure of the year. It has permanent magnets. It is not a gear reduction unit.

 

[chad]

& I bet they'll fit w/o problem. No A/C or alternator in the way...
Get'em'n check. I went out'n got the stang starter'n returned it after the new motor. The headers fit fine.
Wasted money & time. C 1st, then decide, easy nuff.

 

[rigsvt]

I have a Clifford header with dual exhaust on my 200 and I’m still using the regular size starter in mine , it’s a tight fit but it works . I added a heat shield to it to help but so far so good.

 

[chad]

yeah, wrap starter, not headers. Can shorten their life. Guess OP's done researchin starter/header interferance. Not here fora wk...

 

[bmbm40]

That is a nice daily driver to enjoy. If I ever get my Bronco close to being finished I will be getting an early Mustang.
What type of electronic ignition do you have?

 

[chad]

dude, I copied urs all da way...
"... & DSII..." (from above sig)
That is...if ur talkin ta me
("Hey you! Yous talkin ta ME!?!" Stalone, no?)

 

[Slurp]

That is a nice daily driver to enjoy. If I ever get my Bronco close to being finished I will be getting an early Mustang.
What type of electronic ignition do you have?

Indeed it is, she just about never fails me. I’ve got a Pertronix ignitor that keeps her running strong.

Update: After some adjustments to the mini starter, it fit in perfectly, and is working like a charm

P.S. Chad and rigstv, I‘d rather play it safe with this one and I was looking for a more powerful starter anyways. I appreciate your expertise regardless.

 

[powerband]

Could you say which starter you did get, and what needed adjustment to fit the 200 ?.

thanks

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[bubba22349]

Did you get an FE starter for an Auto trans offset? They make one that's 3/8 inch starter drive depth and one with a 3/4 inch.

 

[Slurp]

I got the 9606 Powermaster FE ministarter, and I had to rotate the starter away from the engine block a bit because it was rubbing against it. Gap wise, I took measurements of everything and without shimming, the starter was only 3 hundredths of an inch too far from the flywheel than what was recommended.

 

[chad]

what's those 2 I remember Seth compairing in some pic a few yrs back? Can't find them in the Search. He found the least expensive option, had more room than the fancy names (or was DB Ele the 1 he chose?) Pic show 2 starters he hand held Up close to bells. I think these PowerMaster 175/200$ ones were bigger than the other he showed...

 

[bluesprint260]

Robb Mc Starters fit the 200. The 3008 model is the one I think. http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products/starter_home.html. I have a 1968 bellhousing in a 65 econoline and the starters are different between the years as the 65 bell took a different starter. I think Robb MC has several to choose from.

 

[chad]

as "78" mentiones in another recient post on this it's a good starter. 300$ is out of my price range tho

• 170/200/250 Series L6 with 3/8" ring gear offset

In fact a main reasion I join these interwebs is to "hack" more durable, inexpensive, & performance (MPGs'n pep) mods than is available out there. "Our folks" know these inside tips. Example: I learned I could use '85 el derado rear calipers on my bronk if wanting to stay on-rd'n have a vehicel w/registerable/insurable E-brakes (wanted to stop picking mud, rocks out of the rear drums after use at my acreage). I saved athousand dollars over buying the system from "a typical vendor" (they just paint up a recycled 'kit') and kept an up-graded multi-purpose vehicle running. Sorry for the rant, I'd like to see the opposite more often (and do here @ ford6, "scarebird", nother break 'hack', seen on this site).

 

[78_200_C4]

I have a 1965 Mustang Coupe running a 200 ci Engine, and a C4 Automatic 3 speed transmission. It’s my daily driver, and I plan to keep it that way. The engine is pretty much stock besides that it has electronic ignition. Im looking to supe it up a little by adding dual exhaust headers. However, I have heard a lot about clearance issues with the original starter getting to close to the headers. I was wondering if you guys could point me in the right direction for a ministarter, and would appreciate any guidance.

A stock 68+ 2" exhaust system will support all the horsepower that your 200 produces.
Watch a few YouTube 200 header install videos. Common remarks after installing a header are: "it's still slow" and "it's all bark no bite."
A 65 200 can be made to perform great with the original 1-3/4 exhaust system. I drove a 66 California emission Mustang 200 for 14 years. It ran great without any modifications. The ministarters place the solenoid close to the header pipe heat. Save your money for a Non-LOM distributor. Connect the vacuum advance to full vacuum. Don't spend hundreds of dollars to create new problems.

 

[bmbm40]

Good to hear you got your mini starter installed and working well. I got one for my Bronco and really enjoy how it works. Additionally, I'll bet it saved about ten lbs, or more over the stock starter. Do you have a copy of the Falcon Performance Handbook? It has information on varying levels of performance upgrades from mild to max.