Motorcraft 2150

sivadmatt99

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so i found a 2150 with a 1.08 venturi 287 CFM.for my 170 cid . but the jets are missing. so what size should i get and should i get a different power valve. the homework i did on the holley 350 to a small six it was required? any help is appreciated
Matt
 
i would start by finding the application that your 2150 was originally put on, and find out what jets were installed from the factory. i would then buy jets about three sizes smaller than the original equipment jets. that will give you a decent base to start with. you can then purchase a few more sets of jets, two sizes both ways, and tune from there.
 
Howdy Matt:

I can't help you on the rating, but FYI- the Holley Power Valve can be used in the 2100 as a direct swap. Once you get it going you'll have to do some assessment on both the PV and the main jet. rbohm's suggestion to find the original application for your carb and the standard jet size that it came with and go from there.

FYI- HOlley PVs are rated in increments of one starting at 1.5# and up from there. Autolite PVs are color coded and rated by application, so not a lot of help there.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Adios, David
 
i have bin cruising the net and found that the 2.8L v6 came with the 2150 or is a desirable upgrade for the ranger-pinto guy. so i have not found the the stock jets for my carb that's is off a 289. but the guy running this 1.08 carb on the 2.8L(171 cid) are running #46-50 depending in elevation. so i have a starting point #50.
 
:unsure: Someone please correct me if I`m wrong.IIRC,the 2150 also came on the 360 truck motor in 1974.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo
 
in another thread, xrwagon noted that he was running a holley 2300 with 65 jet and a 6.5 power valve. the jets should be close to start with in your application, though i would go with a 9.5 power valve in your case to start.
 
rbohm":12hwf7dw said:
in another thread, xrwagon noted that he was running a holley 2300 with 65 jet and a 6.5 power valve. the jets should be close to start with in your application, though i would go with a 9.5 power valve in your case to start.

what is the cfm of the holley 2300?
 
sivadmatt99":x3nfhao7 said:
rbohm":x3nfhao7 said:
in another thread, xrwagon noted that he was running a holley 2300 with 65 jet and a 6.5 power valve. the jets should be close to start with in your application, though i would go with a 9.5 power valve in your case to start.

what is the cfm of the holley 2300?

not sure, but i think he was running a 350 cfm. its been a while since i looked over his build.
 
Run the jets that are in it. The 2.8 was a very strong engine, despite its various raatings 109, 104, and then 93 hp ratings, it went up for 1983 Bronco II's and was as rich as the smaller 260/289 and 255/302 carbs. The litte 2100 and 2150 2-bbls were only 110 to 125 hp net engines. There were a few 140-157, 164, 178hp hp versions, but they were 356 cfm carbs with bigger venturis.

If you run a 48F jet, you would put in a 52H jet roughly to get the same flow.

An early C code Mustang with a 2-bbl 287 cfm 1.08" 2100 runs an F49 jet


Holley designed the 2100 and 4100 series Autolite carbs, and then Ford changed the jets to its own pattern.
 
xctasy":2wzgqrhn said:
Run the jets that are in it. The 2.8 was a very strong engine, despite its various raatings 109, 104, and then 93 hp ratings, it went up for 1983 Bronco II's and was as rich as the smaller 260/289 and 255/302 carbs. The litte 2100 and 2150 2-bbls were only 110 to 125 hp net engines. There were a few 140-157, 164, 178hp hp versions, but they were 356 cfm carbs with bigger venturis.

If you run a 48F jet, you would put in a 52H jet roughly to get the same flow.

An early C code Mustang with a 2-bbl 287 cfm 1.08" 2100 runs an F49 jet


Holley designed the 2100 and 4100 series Autolite carbs, and then Ford changed the jets to its own pattern.

The carb showed up with no jets. will holley jets fit? Thanks
 
sivadmatt99":1phzrdyq said:
xctasy":1phzrdyq said:
Run the jets that are in it. The 2.8 was a very strong engine, despite its various raatings 109, 104, and then 93 hp ratings, it went up for 1983 Bronco II's and was as rich as the smaller 260/289 and 255/302 carbs. The litte 2100 and 2150 2-bbls were only 110 to 125 hp net engines. There were a few 140-157, 164, 178hp hp versions, but they were 356 cfm carbs with bigger venturis.

If you run a 48F jet, you would put in a 52H jet roughly to get the same flow.

An early C code Mustang with a 2-bbl 287 cfm 1.08" 2100 runs an F49 jet


Holley designed the 2100 and 4100 series Autolite carbs, and then Ford changed the jets to its own pattern.

The carb showed up with no jets. will holley jets fit? Thanks

i think they do, but its been a while. jets are cheap enough though, so you might buy a pair and try them. or perhaps you can find an old holley and snag the jets from that and see if they fit.
 
A stock 170 is an undercammed with a low overlap 240 degree duration at lash cam, a tame engine that normally makes about 57 rear wheel hp, or 72 flywheel hp net, a little bit off the 105 hp gross they claimed.

But it is very responsive to the right gear, so:-

1. with a better aftermarket solid lifter version of the latter hydraulic 1965-1983 3.3 liter cam of 256 or more duration.
2. A better exhaust,
3. and your nicer 2-bbl adapter intake,

you'll make it perform like a 2.8 Cologne V6.

Some people have made 280 net flywheel hp engines out of one of these little in line six 170 engines, they have a short stroke with long corods, and can take an absolute pounding. They are better set up than the later 200. It never really needed seven main bearings.

Based on your prior info you've got a 1/4" drive early four bearing engine. Ford had a habbit of changing anything 1/4" to 5/16" in the early 60's as you'll see as we read on. It would be silly to stick with the stock 240 duration, low lift solid lifter cam if your going to put better carburation on it. The closed chamber 170 head is a great little thing. If you are adding just a 2-bbl adaptor plate to the 170 head, then open out the stock 1.3" hole to 1.75" with a die grinder and variable speed or air operated die grinder drill.


Now jets. If you were running just a 190 cfm 0.98, you'd start with 43F's. Your using the underlines 1.08 287 cfm 2-bbl, so you'd be better off with 48F's


H=Holley jets, F=Ford jets

1. You'll have to use 48F jets. This based on all the info I've researched. A 1.08 carb needs a proporationally larger jet to meet with the venturi size. You could start at 43F if you like, but I'd be sure you'd end up at the 48F end.
2. The standard Motocraft Power valve was a single stage 8.5. Use a Holley 8.5 power valve.


The jets, they are common enough. In 1964, Ford changed from the 1/4" Holley threads to 5/16" Ford threads and jets from Holley to Fxx jets. Its too hard to swap them over, the threads don't match.

FYI Jetting interchange is linear between these sizes
47H = 43F
54H = 50F
62H = 58F

43F's are enough for the less than 100 hp net
50F's are enough for about 125 hp
58F's are enough to give 157 to 200 hp net

That is based on how they flow


Eg 1. On a 1963-1982 2-bbl 2100 to 2150, the jets size runs from as little as 47's on the 0.98 145 hp gross (110 hp) 221 V8, 260, or 1980-1982 115-119-120 hp net 255 4.2 liter V8,

Eg 2. 1982 5.0 Mustang GT 157 HP 2-BBL needs 57 jets.
Eg 3. The 1968-1970 265 hp gross 390FE had a 351-356 CFM Autolite 1.21-1.23 2100 2-bbl, but had less than 200 hp net, and needed only 54's.
Eg 4. As little as 54 to as much as 63 on the 1971-1983 emissions era 164 to 178 hp net 351M and 400 Ford 2-bbl 2150 1.33.

Number = CFM
.98 = 190
1.01 = 240
1.02 = 245
1.08 = 287
1.14 = 300
1.21 = 351
1.23 = 356
1.33 = 424


Its best to buy the Ford 1100/1101/1250/2100/2150/4100/4300 ones.


Click on Motorcraft Jets.http://www.carburetor-parts.com/Autolit ... p_175.html


The Ford Motorcraft/Autolite F jets are called 120-4 series jets

At Mikes Carb Parts, you'll get sizes 40 to 78 in the pulldown menu, with 120-4 as the listed off that item list. $4.99 each


Walker parts lists all the jets from 35 to 72.

https://buy.walkerproducts.com/_images/ ... ts-120.JPG

Unlike Holley jets, Ford jets are what they are....the hole size is the jet size


Summary jet interchange details here.

http://www.fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 49#p526449
 
xctasy":chicxb9w said:
A stock 170 is an undercammed with a low overlap 240 degree duration at lash cam, a tame engine that normally makes about 57 rear wheel hp, or 72 flywheel hp net, a little bit off the 105 hp gross they claimed.

But it is very responsive to the right gear, so:-

1. with a better aftermarket solid lifter version of the latter hydraulic 1965-1983 3.3 liter cam of 256 or more duration.
2. A better exhaust,
3. and your nicer 2-bbl adapter intake, Kimi

you'll make it perform like a 2.8 Cologne V6.

Some people have made 280 net flywheel hp engines out of one of these little in line six 170 engines, they have a short stroke with long corods, and can take an absolute pounding. They are better set up than the later 200. It never really needed seven main bearings.

Based on your prior info you've got a 1/4" drive early four bearing engine. Ford had a habbit of changing anything 1/4" to 5/16" in the early 60's as you'll see as we read on. It would be silly to stick with the stock 240 duration, low lift solid lifter cam if your going to put better carburation on it. The closed chamber 170 head is a great little thing. If you are adding just a 2-bbl adaptor plate to the 170 head, then open out the stock 1.3" hole to 1.75" with a die grinder and variable speed or air operated die grinder drill.


Now jets. If you were running just a 190 cfm 0.98, you'd start with 43F's. Your using the underlines 1.08 2877 cfm 2-bbl, so you'd be better off with 48F's


H=Holley jets, F=Ford jets

1. You'll have to use 48F jets. This based on all the info I've researched. A 1.08 carb needs a proporationally larger jet to meet with the venturi size. You could start at 43F if you like, but I'd be sure you'd end up at the 48F end.
2. The standard Motocraft Power valve was a single stage 8.5. Use a Holley 8.5 power valve.


The jets, they are common enough. In 1964, Ford changed from the 1/4" Holley threads to 5/16" Ford threads and jets from Holley to Fxx jets. Its too hard to swap them over, the threads don't match.

FYI Jetting interchange is linear between these sizes
47H = 43F
54H = 50F
62H = 58F

43F's are enough for the less than 100 hp net
50F's are enough for about 125 hp
58F's are enough to give 157 to 200 hp net

That is based on how they flow


Eg 1. On a 1963-1982 2-bbl 2100 to 2150, the jets size runs from as little as 47's on the 0.98 145 hp gross (110 hp) 221 V8, 260, or 1980-1982 115-119-120 hp net 255 4.2 liter V8,

Eg 2. 1982 5.0 Mustang GT 157 HP 2-BBL needs 57 jets.
Eg 3. The 1968-1970 265 hp gross 390FE had a 351-356 CFM Autolite 1.21-1.23 2100 2-bbl, but had less than 200 hp net, and needed only 54's.
Eg 4. As little as 54 to as much as 63 on the 1971-1983 emissions era 164 to 178 hp net 351M and 400 Ford 2-bbl 2150 1.33.

Number = CFM
.98 = 190
1.01 = 240
1.02 = 245
1.08 = 287
1.14 = 300
1.21 = 351
1.23 = 356
1.33 = 424


Its best to buy the Ford 1100/1101/1250/2100/2150/4100/4300 ones.


Click on Motorcraft Jets.http://www.carburetor-parts.com/Autolit ... p_175.html


The Ford Motorcraft/Autolite F jets are called 120-4 series jets

At Mikes Carb Parts, you'll get sizes 40 to 78 in the pulldown menu, with 120-4 as the listed off that item list. $4.99 each


Walker parts lists all the jets from 35 to 72.

https://buy.walkerproducts.com/_images/ ... ts-120.JPG

Unlike Holley jets, Ford jets are what they are....the hole size is the jet size


Summary jet interchange details here.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=68684&p=526449#p526449

Man thats great info. The motor is camed it has a comp 260 duration with .440 lift. Hydro with adjustable arm's.I'm upgrading the oil pump drive and dizzy now. A step at a time then carb- header.....
thanks agent
 
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