Alum or cast flywheel?

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Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #1 by StarDiero75 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:54 am

So im doing clutch stuff and am looking at getting the flywheel resurfaced. Before i did that, i wanted to know if it would be beneficial to put on a new alum flywheel from summit or somewhere?
Is this a performance upgrade since its lighter and must be easier to spin? Makes sense from that point, or is it negligible?

Also, if you have a 3.03 thsts rebuilt or lightly used that would be good for years to come, and near seattle/portland area, PM me, i need one. This is a 65 200 Ranchero, i already have the adapter plate and bell, my 3.03 is taking a crap on me.

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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #2 by Firebolt » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:07 am

Have you seen aluminium flywheel for Ford 200? Here is some differences between steel and aluminium flywheels:

www.fidanza.com/aluminum-vs-steel/

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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #3 by StarDiero75 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:20 am

Firebolt wrote:Have you seen aluminium flywheel for Ford 200? Here is some differences between steel and aluminium flywheels:

http://www.fidanza.com/aluminum-vs-steel/

From what i got, was that the aluminum will give me some ponies, and it can be daily driven!!

Whats you alls opinion? Havw any of you put in an aluminum one?

Thanks!
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--Creator of the only Weber 32/36 conversion video.

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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #4 by Firebolt » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:36 am

I'd put aluminium one to mine, but haven't seen any, and it should be reasonable price. I think machining the one I have will be the most cost effective way. Transmission will keep knocking noise with light flywheel. Like it is said in that link, it depends on your driving style and planned use. If you are using that 2.8 rear, I think you should use as heavy flywheel as possible.

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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #5 by wsa111 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:57 am

With a small six i would go with the iron flywheel. If you had a 250 worked & running a 4.62 diff. maybe.
You need the inertia of the heaver flywheel on you application.
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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #6 by drag-200stang » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:31 pm

A member here had one, and if I remember right he was happy with it on a daily driver type car...I do not think that they are still available.
Today anything can be custom made for a price.
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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #7 by StarDiero75 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:08 pm

wsa111 wrote:With a small six i would go with the iron flywheel. If you had a 250 worked & running a 4.62 diff. maybe.
You need the inertia of the heaver flywheel on you application.

Oh okay, thanks man! Now in the future, i plan to put a t5 from modern driveline in, and a 4.11 in the rear. Would that application work for the aluminum one?

Thanks,
Ryan
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--1961 Studebaker Lark VI, OHV 170 l6 in the process of being resurrected. But it lives
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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #8 by wsa111 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:12 pm

StarDiero75 wrote:
wsa111 wrote:With a small six i would go with the iron flywheel. If you had a 250 worked & running a 4.62 diff. maybe.
You need the inertia of the heaver flywheel on you application.

Oh okay, thanks man! Now in the future, i plan to put a t5 from modern driveline in, and a 4.11 in the rear. Would that application work for the aluminum one?

Thanks,
Ryan

Ryan if you could lighten your iron flywheel a little that would be ok. If you could lighten it 5 lbs without sacrificing strength i would go that route.
I ran a aluminum flywheel in a 62 Corvette. I ran a wide ratio trans with a 4.46 diff .& it worked ok.
Don't miss a shift cause your engine will rev out of sight. I am talking about full throttle shifts, not granny shifting.
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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #9 by StarDiero75 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:32 am

wsa111 wrote:
StarDiero75 wrote:
wsa111 wrote:With a small six i would go with the iron flywheel. If you had a 250 worked & running a 4.62 diff. maybe.
You need the inertia of the heaver flywheel on you application.

Oh okay, thanks man! Now in the future, i plan to put a t5 from modern driveline in, and a 4.11 in the rear. Would that application work for the aluminum one?

Thanks,
Ryan

Ryan if you could lighten your iron flywheel a little that would be ok. If you could lighten it 5 lbs without sacrificing strength i would go that route.
I ran a aluminum flywheel in a 62 Corvette. I ran a wide ratio trans with a 4.46 diff .& it worked ok.
Don't miss a shift cause your engine will rev out of sight. I am talking about full throttle shifts, not granny shifting.

I didnt even think about missing a shift. I usually have to rev it high due to the 2.8 and 25in tires, so maybe the iron is good. I will talk to my machine guy about lightening it a little.

Thanks wsa!
Ryan
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--1961 Studebaker Lark VI, OHV 170 l6 in the process of being resurrected. But it lives
--Creator of the only Weber 32/36 conversion video.

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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #10 by StarDiero75 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:47 pm

Got the clutch on! Just waiting on the anti rattle spring and tranny mount!
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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #11 by ray6966 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:53 pm

You may want to look at Modern Driveline website.

Ford Flywheels: http://transmission.moderndriveline.com ... ls-c78.htm

They have brand new Lighten Billet Steel Flywheels for both the 8.5" & 9.0" Clutch patterns.

Best of luck with your project. - Ray

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Re: Alum or cast flywheel?

Post #12 by rocklord » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:12 am

ray6966 wrote:You may want to look at Modern Driveline website.

Ford Flywheels: http://transmission.moderndriveline.com ... ls-c78.htm

They have brand new Lighten Billet Steel Flywheels for both the 8.5" & 9.0" Clutch patterns.

Best of luck with your project. - Ray


$315.00 for the 8.5", and $275.00 for the 9". A little pricey considering the 250 flywheel cost $235.00.

http://transmission.moderndriveline.com ... 78p458.htm

One flywheel on the website that is of interest is the 157 tooth zero-balance that has the 200 crank bolt pattern.
If you have a low mount starter 200 engine and want to install a V8 bellhousing, you now have a V8 flywheel predrilled for your 200 crank!

http://transmission.moderndriveline.com ... 78p459.htm

$275.00 with the option to run a 10" or larger" pressure plate.
Now that's a good thing!

Thanks for the link.
Dan

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cast flywheel all the way!

Post #13 by chad » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:50 pm

"... considering the 250 flywheel..."
I C they make U 'stretch' for a 250 FW over @ MDL.
Today's my 1st visit.
None specifically listed. One listing has "144 - 250" I think.
When U view them no 250 is actually represented in the pic.
Another listing has the correct cross referenced 1 w/o stating "it fits the 250", no?
May B that's more of a race co than tq.
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