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Post #1 by rustywagon » Sun May 26, 2019 2:24 pm

I was parking my car, put reverse in gear, something snapped and engine died. I can't start it, the car is "free" in all gears, resp. you can push it free in D. The distributor doesn't spin when I turn starter on. Not sure what happened. I am dissembling front to see if timing chain snapped, while removing radiator the transmission liquid started to drip from tranny cooling line.... Any advice/tips appreciated! Thank you, Michal

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Post #2 by bubba22349 » Sun May 26, 2019 3:55 pm

rustywagon wrote:I was parking my car, put reverse in gear, something snapped and engine died. I can't start it, the car is "free" in all gears, resp. you can push it free in D. The distributor doesn't spin when I turn starter on. Not sure what happened. I am dissembling front to see if timing chain snapped, while removing radiator the transmission liquid started to drip from tranny cooling line.... Any advice/tips appreciated! Thank you, Michal


Hi Michal, yes it dose sound like the timing chain isn't working, could be slipping due to bad or stripped cam gear, since the Distribitor dosent turn. You can get some caps for the auto trans cooling lines or use a piece of hose and a couple of hose clamps to contect them together. Yes with engine not running the auto trans through the torque converter (no direct connection) so there is no resistance to the car to be able move freely in any gear. With the one exception of when the gear selector is in the park position which locks the output shaft of the trans. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #3 by rustywagon » Sun May 26, 2019 4:08 pm

I was told transmission fluid present in line to radiator is ok as it runs through it. I though it's vice versa, hope it's right. I removed timing chain cover, lower sprocket was broken and chain was apart. Bolts on both sprocket were loose. I installed new came (old was broken) few years ago, we tightened the bolts to specs, not sure why it got loose.....
Did it damage the valves? If there's possibility, how do I check easiest way?
I need to remove oil pan to get all metal pieces, do I have to remove torsion bar?
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Post #4 by rustywagon » Sun May 26, 2019 4:19 pm

just for clarification - when it snapped, it was just one, short sound. Not any "hammering or ongoing sounds" after. Like it just snapped...

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Post #5 by bubba22349 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:29 pm

Yeah the cooling lines won't drain out that much I just don't like getting oil or fluid dripped on me when am under a car. Don't think you would be able to damage the valves. Ok did you remove the crank and cam gears and look at the woodruff keys in the drank and camshaft? It may of broken one of them so if you didn't you need to check them, due to the cam gear bolt being loose. The crank gear has the Dampner pushing it back against the crankshaft tightly so the more likely one is the camshaft key. I have also seen a couple broken cams in engines too, though not in a Falcon six. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #6 by bubba22349 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:48 pm

One other thing after you get all those timing gear set parts inspected for any damage. When your confident it's ready to be reassembled use some "Lock Tite" on that cam bolt before you torque it down to spec that will help keep it from coming loose again. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #7 by drag-200stang » Sun May 26, 2019 6:16 pm

Something to check when you get the sprocket off, check to see if the cam spacer is behind the cam pin, it goes on with the inside bevel toward the cam journal , not to be confused with cam retainer plate...If that is not there it will cause problems.
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Post #8 by chad » Sun May 26, 2019 7:17 pm

must ck 4 all valve related events now? Almost re-degree the cam?
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Post #9 by rustywagon » Sun May 26, 2019 7:33 pm

No damage on pin, or woodruff key. I haven't noticed any cam spacer, unless it's on picture, please check. There was thin large metal "shield", i guess that was to prevent oil splashing?.
I removed valve cover and will remove head, I need to replace head gasket anyway.
How do I find out of engine is O.K.? Should I test pressure in cylinders before I remove head, or visual check on valve is O.K.? Any other recommendations?
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Post #10 by chad » Sun May 26, 2019 8:11 pm

y remove head?...no need 4 that in my mind...
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Post #11 by drag-200stang » Sun May 26, 2019 8:12 pm

Oil slinger is normal...I cannot tell for sure if the spacer is there or not in that pic...Can you take a pic that shows the pin , it should be right behind it.
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Post #12 by rustywagon » Sun May 26, 2019 8:44 pm

there was play in bigger sprocket, bolt was loose. I guess it vibrated and chain/sprocket broke. I replace the timing set years ago, torqued to specs, not sure why it got loose.
i took more pics. I don't think there was spacer, unless it was on broken sprocket and broke with it.
I need to figure out if engine is ok, what I need to do?
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Post #13 by bubba22349 » Sun May 26, 2019 8:50 pm

Your missing the cam spacer ring (wedding ring) that "drag-200Stang" was talking about in his above post. No wonder the cam gear got loose it can't tighten up against the front of the cam right. Did you change cam lately or in the past? The camshaft thrust plate show lots of wear too and will need to be replaced. Plus you will have to find that cam spacer ring that goes behind the cam gear. If it's been missing for two years there could be other damage inside the engine. I would recommend that you pull head and then the lifters and cam and look them all over good. The Distribitor gear might also be damaged or broken from the cam moving around. In the below link is a Enginering Drawing that WsaII "Bill") made to show what cam spacer ring measures. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:

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Post #14 by rustywagon » Mon May 27, 2019 12:26 am

I don't remember if we put in the ring, or not.
I have some mechanical background, my friend has pretty good knowledge of cars (he works on all his) and my neigbour who is car shop owner (spec in vintage cars) was around when we worked on car.

Wouldn't be against logic/common sense or impossible to put in cam without that ring? I am not saying we couldn't miss it, but we bagged and labeled each part when pulling engine apart.... If the bracket would rub against the plate I am sure we wouldn't miss it..... couldn't it snapped?

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Post #15 by bubba22349 » Mon May 27, 2019 12:49 am

Well you would think it's logical however this seems to be a common recurring problem with many of the new cam installs were the ring gets left on the old camshaft. Since the ring goes on behind the round pin in the camshaft it needs to go on first before the pin gets installed see link to picture showing this install location behind the round pin. So if you only changed the timing chain set then the ring might of been left off by someone else before you. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:

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Post #16 by rustywagon » Mon May 27, 2019 1:14 am

makes sense.
I will remove head tomorrow, what do I look for? meaning possible damage
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Post #17 by bubba22349 » Mon May 27, 2019 1:25 am

Check that the cam can turn easy in the block and using a light that all the lobes move up and down, also watch if the Distribitor rotor is turning too. Examine all of the camshafts lobes and its Distribitor gear for any damage or uneven wear to them, also check the Distribitors driven gear for any wear or damage, look at each of the lifters bottoms for wear too. Be sure to keep the lifters all in their order as you take them out then if you want to try reuse them they got back on the same lobe. Check that all the push rods are still straight by rolling them on a flat surface. Post some pictures of all the parts that show any damage or unusual wear if you can. Do you have any friends that might have some Ford 200 core engines for those missing parts like the cam spacer ring and a replacement for the damaged thrust plate, although those thrust plates still can be bought new? Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #18 by rustywagon » Mon May 27, 2019 5:11 pm

I checked all, looks good.
I dropped the pan to get the pieces out.
I need to re seal it. Do I have to pull the pan to put new seal in?
Looks like I would have to remove torsion bar and lift the engine up to get pan out, unless there's a trick.
thank you for help, Michal

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Post #19 by bubba22349 » Mon May 27, 2019 6:42 pm

:beer: congrats that's good news that everything checks out. Which seals are you talking about the oil pan gasket end seals, the front cover seal, rear main seal? Yes the oil pan should be removed to clean out any trash or debris, check the oil pump pick up screen is clean too. The one trick to remove pan while engine block is still bolted in is to unbolt and remove the round tube belly bar connected across from the lower control arm mounting under the engine. The other way to do it is unbolt the engine mounts and rasie the engine up enough so you can get the oil pan out. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #20 by rustywagon » Tue May 28, 2019 7:39 pm

I meant oil pan, I dropped it to remove all rest of metal pieces.
Do I actually have to remove the pan to put new seal in or is it possible to do it just dropped... ?
If I have remove the pan completely, I'd prefer to remove torsion bar. Do I need special tool to put it back?, or it's just take it out, place it in process...
friend told me it's pita to put torsion bar back..., but I am not sure about it.
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Post #21 by bubba22349 » Tue May 28, 2019 7:52 pm

rustywagon wrote:I meant oil pan, I dropped it to remove all rest of metal pieces.
Do I actually have to remove the pan to put new seal in or is it possible to do it just dropped... ?
If I have remove the pan completely, I'd prefer to remove torsion bar. Do I need special tool to put it back?, or it's just take it out, place it in process...
friend told me it's pita to put torsion bar back..., but I am not sure about it.
Thank you. Michal


You could replace them without dropping the oil pan completely. But if you have metal in the bottom of the pan how will you be sure it's all cleaned out? Where did all the metal come from? There where no torsion bars used on any stock Falcon front suspensions. Do you mean the steering centerlink or the round tube crossmember under the engine? Do you have some pictures of what you mean? Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #22 by rustywagon » Tue May 28, 2019 9:01 pm

I am not sure if I used correct terminology, it's tube running under front of oil pan, see on picture. The pan now "sits" on that tube.
I dropped the pan a bit, I used magnet to get all metal chunks out.
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Post #23 by Econoline » Tue May 28, 2019 9:17 pm

That's your sway bar/anti-roll bar. You may be able to just unbolt the bshing straps that bolt to the frame and get enough play to work it out.
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Post #24 by rustywagon » Tue May 28, 2019 9:20 pm

I found it in shop manual, it's called "stabilizer bar", is re installation difficult?

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Post #25 by chad » Tue May 28, 2019 9:35 pm

no. no tention (till cornering).
Remove pan, fulsh. Look @ particles for more info, ck screen...
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Post #26 by rustywagon » Tue May 28, 2019 9:45 pm

The "upper" bushings resp. all bushings on stabilizer bar need to be replaced as well, I guess I should replace all since I will remove it.... But, I can't find online. Would you post a link if you have, preferably kit, resp. all bushings. Thank you. I will jump in it tomorrow.

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Post #27 by rustywagon » Tue May 28, 2019 9:58 pm

https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_fair ... =569-33ca9
https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_fair ... =569-33ca9

are these correct?, measured diameter is 5/8"
I can't find end bushings sitting on frame - on 2nd. picture bushing under black circle, also the tube spacers should be replaced, rusty....
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Post #28 by rustywagon » Tue May 28, 2019 10:16 pm

so I am looking for this bushing - in black rectangular
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Post #29 by rustywagon » Wed May 29, 2019 12:14 am

please disregards, I just noticed all bushings are included in the kit. Thank you, Michal

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Post #30 by bubba22349 » Wed May 29, 2019 2:07 am

Yes those two kits should supply all the worn out bushing and link parts. The sway bar is very easy to remove and replace again., as long as you first disconnect the upper A Arm links with the weight of the car on the suspension. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #31 by bubba22349 » Thu May 30, 2019 9:28 am

Hi Michal, how are you doing on the Wagon? We're you able to find the Camshaft Spacer Ring and new Thrust plate so you can put the timing chain set back in your 200? Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #32 by rustywagon » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:38 am

Hi guys, I contacted maybe 20 machinist around, all turned me away, the job was to small to do.... If someone has a spare one or can make one, I will gladly pay you. Car is still in same shape as on last picture, doing the sway bar this weekend.

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Post #33 by chad » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:05 am

local school? prt sm enuff to mail - further away machinist? national shop?

Post in our Wanted as guys sell "rusty motors' & other things they don't want.

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Post #34 by DannyG » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:18 pm

I believe I may have a spare cam plate and that spacer ring as well.
PM me your address and if I can find them this weekend, I'll mail them to you n/c.
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Post #35 by rustywagon » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:30 pm

I went to local engine re builder, he picked up phone, called somewhere and told me I can pick up the part Monday afternoon. I will let you guys know if I get it. Thank you for all your help, Michal

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Post #36 by chad » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:07 am

WoW. I'd like to hear more abt that.
Don't do anything that would squash a longer term relationship wid dis guy !
In fact when U C him tell'em I'll name my 1st son after him if I can get the 2 'lift eyes' offa his motor...
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Post #37 by rustywagon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:29 pm

removed sway bar, replacing freeze plugs and will put oil pan back, the gasket for oil pan is made of cork, do i put any sealant on it? Is there any torque recommendation on it, or just "feel" it....

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Post #38 by bubba22349 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:05 pm

After many years I can tell by the feel, but the correct factory torque is 8 to 10 Ft LB's on oil Pan and valve cover bolts.

Did you get al the correct parts to install the timing set and the then install of the front cover / with the front Dampener also back on? If not you should do all those first before installing your oil pan. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #39 by rustywagon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:27 pm

found the torque in shop manual, it's 7-9.
why I should not install the oil pan before timing set etc.?
thank you, Michal

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Post #40 by bubba22349 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:37 pm

It's going to be very hard to get the timing cover to aline with its bolts hole locations as well as the front seal being in the proper location for the front Dampener with the oil pan installed. This is the reason I always install the front cover first along with the damper before I torque the front cover bolts then the last thing installed is the oil pan. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #41 by rustywagon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:49 pm

good it thank you

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Post #42 by rustywagon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 pm

Ordered set of freeze plugs, but found out they sent me only for engine. There are 4 small and one 1 3/4" on cylinder head. The small ones have 555 - 017 stamp on it. I can't find it online, O Reilys don't have it. Do you know where to purchase? Thank you.

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Post #43 by bubba22349 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:55 pm

Michal, Also on the gaskets I will usually use a sealer like Gasket Stench or Permatex non hardening to glue the gasket to the block and so it stays in place. Do you have a NAPA dealer near you? They should have the smaller freeze plugs (I think they are 1 inch) on side of the head and the larger rear one for the back of the head. Good luck hope you get it back on the road soon :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #44 by rustywagon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:25 pm

I am using Permatex, aviation grade on plugs. I was able to find 1 3/4". I also found 1", but only shallow and there were originally deep ones. Is it ok to use shallow ones? I found deep online, but it will postpone the project.... Thank you!

P.S. there were actually 2 plugs in one hole (1 3/4") at the end of the head. One regular plug and flat one on top of it. I managed to remove the flat one without damage, should I put it back or one standard plug is ok?

There is some residue on head, what's the best way to remove it, meaning flat side?

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Post #45 by chad » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:08 pm

",,,residue on head,,,"
I was thinkin - the head has 'plugs' too' (2 ends of log & may B others) so thought U might have gotten them (correct motor, wrong location). U seem straight now?

residue...is it metal? snot? Possibly either can come off w/wire brush ( hand held or machine). If just 'gasket smear' xilothene, other solvent. Keep offa hands, clean offa the metal when 'gone'.

Sounds like ur movin thru it well now? :mrgreen: :cool: Y the frz plugs? I didn't think I saw U state a need...
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Post #46 by bubba22349 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:13 pm

Yes the Permatex Aviation sealer will work great. I like the deep soft plugs better they go in straighter and hold better, the shallow ones may work but Ford used the deep ones originally so that's what I would use too. I would use the one standard deep soft plug on the rear and forget doubling it up with a flat one. After cleaning it up a little with a gasket scraper I use a flat rubber sanding block with some 180 or 220 sand paper, if you want to clean the carbon out of the combustion chambers you can use a wire brush on a drill. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #47 by rustywagon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:37 pm

I ordered the deeper plugs, I should have all parts together on Tuesday, than we shall see.... Thank you!

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Post #48 by rustywagon » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:16 pm

Miracle did not happened, he got the plate, not the spacer...
Danny, pls let me know your address and how much for spacer, I will mail you check tomorrow morning. Thank you!

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still need cam spacer

Post #49 by chad » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:10 pm

frm pic it looked like U needed both.
Keep us informed, luck B wid ya...
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Post #50 by rustywagon » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:34 pm

I got the plate from that miracle guy, need only spacer, but if it comes as set, I'll take it :-)

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