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Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

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Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #1 by StarDiero75 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:52 pm

Howdy Guys,

So I'm just about done gathering everything I need for the T5 swap, I bought a modern driveline dual friction diaphram 9" clutch and billet flywheel for the cost of just the clutch. They're balanced together as well. But should I run the billet flywheel or the stock flywheel with my current setup?

4cyl turbo T5 4.03 1st and .81 5th
2.8 8" rear
P215 tires (soon to be P225)

The engine will be beefed a bit too with the 2V 1980 head, 1.5" exhaust valve, dual out VI headers 2" pipes, and a 256/256 .420 lift 112 lobe sep.

I have heard I should have a stock flywheel with the 2.8 rear, but i figured the extra engine mods might help with it.

Opinions?

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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #2 by CNC-Dude » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:40 pm

Since its already balanced, there isn't any reason you shouldn't go ahead and use it.
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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #3 by StarDiero75 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:14 pm

CNC-Dude wrote:Since its already balanced, there isn't any reason you shouldn't go ahead and use it.

Thats what i figured. Just got it today and it looks great. Can't wait to slap it on
--1965 Ranchero w/1966 200, dual friction diaphram 9" Modern Driveline clutch and billet flywheel all balanced, 1985 SVO WC T5 with front shift, 1966 2.8 Ford 8", Weber 32/26 with VI adapter, CRT Performance HEI.
--1961 Studebaker Lark VI, OHV 170 l6 in the process of being resurrected. But it lives
--Creator of the only Weber 32/36 conversion video.

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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #4 by gb500 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:11 pm

StarDiero75 wrote:
CNC-Dude wrote:Since its already balanced, there isn't any reason you shouldn't go ahead and use it.

Thats what i figured. Just got it today and it looks great. Can't wait to slap it on


A picture is worth a thousand words and all that ….:)

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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #5 by StarDiero75 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:58 am

gb500 wrote:
StarDiero75 wrote:
CNC-Dude wrote:Since its already balanced, there isn't any reason you shouldn't go ahead and use it.

Thats what i figured. Just got it today and it looks great. Can't wait to slap it on


A picture is worth a thousand words and all that ….:)

This is what i got. The sharpy mark is how i am to install the clutch on it.

Here is the pressure plate as well
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--1961 Studebaker Lark VI, OHV 170 l6 in the process of being resurrected. But it lives
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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #6 by drag-200stang » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:15 am

Looks good Star.
Can you show us the back side ?
I have not seen a 200 flywheel come apart, the billet it is a smart thing to do.
I have typed about this before,I had two oem strong tuff man pressure plates come apart...No part of the pp or the bell housing found larger than 1'', blew off block and trans mounts, cut off the starter nose, severed one header tube, put cuts in floor...this happened at the 7000 range...No good rev limiters at that time.
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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #7 by StarDiero75 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:33 pm

drag-200stang wrote:Looks good Star.
Can you show us the back side ?
I have not seen a 200 flywheel come apart, the billet it is a smart thing to do.
I have typed about this before,I had two oem strong tuff man pressure plates come apart...No part of the pp or the bell housing found larger than 1'', blew off block and trans mounts, cut off the starter nose, severed one header tube, put cuts in floor...this happened at the 7000 range...No good rev limiters at that time.

Yeah I'll post a back side picture probably tomorrow night!

Thats nuts man, thats why they invented the scatter shield lol. But no one makes one for our engines right?
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Post #8 by gb500 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:29 am

thanks

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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #9 by lavron » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:15 am

StarDiero75 wrote:Thats nuts man, thats why they invented the scatter shield lol. But no one makes one for our engines right?


Modern driveline mentions one in the section on cable clutch conversions (Quicktime MD-401-8050) but I can't find it for sale.

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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #10 by drag-200stang » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:48 am

I think that materials are better today, and with a hyd. cam it will not rev high enough to be a problem ... Rev limiters are cheap enough no reason not to have the added safety.
I think that you will be fine.
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Post #11 by chad » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:46 pm

Mike-

for the Quicktime MD-401-8050 -

Modern Driveline sez:
"...250 motor
303 transmission
Desired transmission: T5z Drive '93 or earlier, Ford Motorsport

Note: the requested bell, MD-401-8050 with either a 7 or 9 o'clock for position is available but will not fit the above block.

This quote is based on using the existing bell housing with an adapter, the 157 tooth 10" clutch pattern flywheel. and mechanical clutch linkage. Hydraulic clutch release is available.

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Post #12 by StarDiero75 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:20 pm

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Post #13 by drag-200stang » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:59 pm

Good man. :thumbup:
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Post #14 by drag-200stang » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:39 pm

lavron wrote:
StarDiero75 wrote:Thats nuts man, thats why they invented the scatter shield lol. But no one makes one for our engines right?


Modern driveline mentions one in the section on cable clutch conversions (Quicktime MD-401-8050) but I can't find it for sale.

See Ya,
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Its hard to find anything on their site, but somehow I found a quick time for a 200 high mount 136 t flywheel with a MD 401-4050 part number at 768.95 $
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Post #15 by lavron » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:24 am

drag-200stang wrote:I found a quick time for a 200 high mount 136 t flywheel with a MD 401-4050 part number at 768.95 $


Ouch! I am glad I don't need one, I like trying to do stuff cheap myself :roll:

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Post #16 by StarDiero75 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:14 pm

I got a deal on mine. With their dual friction clutch, diaphram style, and all mounting hardware, + flywheel, all balanced together, cost me $360. I made out like a bandit
--1965 Ranchero w/1966 200, dual friction diaphram 9" Modern Driveline clutch and billet flywheel all balanced, 1985 SVO WC T5 with front shift, 1966 2.8 Ford 8", Weber 32/26 with VI adapter, CRT Performance HEI.
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Post #17 by wsa111 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:45 pm

Don't forget to put sealer on the bolts to flywheel to crank threads.
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Re: Should I Use a Billet Flywheel?

Post #18 by Econoline » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:36 pm

wsa111 wrote:Don't forget to put sealer on the bolts to flywheel to crank threads.


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