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Lavron's '64 Comet Budget Build

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Post #51 by lavron » Fri May 08, 2020 2:07 pm

Soldmy66 wrote:I think there are several of us (at least one) who follow this thread and feel a sense of vicarious triumph with each step.

Well done.


Thanks for that, I have been asked to make movies of the first time I start it and the first test drive out of the shed, I will try and do that.

It is pretty exciting to have a bunch of stuff hooked up and ready to go, I will be curious to see how much stuff I have missed, might be time to make a list (I have said that so many times :roll: ) when there is a lot to do it is not hard to keep moving along doing the big stuff, it seems like all the little stuff is what is going to slow me down.

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Post #52 by Rinke » Sat May 09, 2020 5:25 pm

Nice thread to follow. You're making bigger steps than I managed.
The rebuild phase is the sweetset phase there is in my opinion.

Enjoy it!

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Post #53 by lavron » Thu May 21, 2020 2:52 am

Rinke wrote:Nice thread to follow. You're making bigger steps than I managed.
The rebuild phase is the sweetset phase there is in my opinion.


Thanks, I do enjoy it even though it can be frustrating at times :?

Just a quick post, didn't know if I should post this here or on the engine build thread so I guess this one won :roll:

I am adding a 3G Alternator (I had none so I decided this would the easiest to replace down the road if I needed to) It is really a bolt-on operation as long as you have the brackets (mine is a '77 250 A/C motor) I had to buy a new pulley for a twin V belt 2G alternator and swap it with the serpentine pulley, that was the hardest part of the job.
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For now it will get a single belt until I do the A/C install, I had an old rotten belt so I cut it and installed after shortening it, now I can take it to the parts store and have them get me a belt the same size.

The alternator is clocked correctly IMO to hook up the wiring fairly easily.
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It is a 130amp for a '96 Mustang V6. I already have the factory pigtails to wire it up.

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Post #54 by lavron » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:43 pm

No pictures to show, but I got the flywheel, clutch & PP installed on the motor, bolted the trans on and put it all down in the Comet, got the mounts all installed and the driveshaft, hooked up the hydraulic clutch and bled it and changed out the driven speedo gear (running a black gear on the shaft and a white gear on the cable) and installed it, filled the trans with fluid.

So all the running gear is installed :beer:

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Post #55 by autonoob » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:20 pm

Any update with regards to this build?

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Post #56 by lavron » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:20 pm

autonoob wrote:Any update with regards to this build?


I have been doing nothing too exciting, lately, just wiring up the engine run harness.

Engine is installed but still need to get the intake adapter cast, I bought a stock 1 barrel just to get the car started the first time, that is why I have been doing wiring.
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Got the shifter all installed and mocked up the trim around it, it is in a good place.
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I installed a '98 Mustang starter relay, I figured it would be easiest to source if it failed on the road, it bolts right in the same holes as the stock solenoid.
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While I was wiring this in it included running the wires on the 3G alternator, all that is left on it is the big charge wire and the exciter wire needs run the ignition switch.

The ignition system is all done as well, I have made a little slide-out drawer to hold it and mounted it behind the console on top of the transmission tunnel.
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Today I am running the wires for the fuel pump and the hooking up the fuel gauge wire while I am there, I installed a 5 relay box in the trunk and it will have the fuel pump, air compressor, etc. hooked to it.

I have the wire coming in to make the long battery cables (1 AWG welding cable) as well as some lugs and the 6 gauge wire to run over to the fuse boxes under the hood and the missing charge wire for the alt. I am trying to keep the engine bay pretty clutter-free of wiring as much as possible.

There are a handful of little items I need to run down (like the lower radiator hose and the carb spacer) before I will be ready to start the car for the first time.

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Re: Lavron's '64 Comet Budget Build

Post #57 by powerband » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:35 pm

a consideration':

... flex conduit can be used for safe(r) wiring with large amperage circuits front to rear or ><.

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Post #58 by lavron » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:57 pm

powerband wrote:a consideration':

... flex conduit can be used for safe(r) wiring with large amperage circuits front to rear or ><.


Initially, it will probably just be strung across the floor but ultimately at least the positive cable will be in some sort of conduit.

I got the fuel pump about half wired yesterday, takes a little longer running relays, etc.

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Post #59 by lavron » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:57 pm

More wiring but about to finish up the engine run harness/wiring, it is not as messy as it looks. :roll:

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The insides of the fuse box, box :roll: Two constant contact heavy-duty relays, one supplies IGN-on the other ACC-on, ALWAYS HOT connects to the top bus bar.

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The box closed up, it is on the left inner fender where the shock tower used to be.

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Fuel pump inertia switch and negative battery master disconnect are between the seats where the future console will be.

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Just waiting on a few more parts to arrive.

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Post #60 by lavron » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:19 pm

Ran the main wire from the firewall to the trunk inside a flex conduit, next I will get the ground wire run to the cut-off switch and then run it up to the fire wall as well just to make sure I have good grounds everywhere, I am going to run a bolt through the firewall and attach a ground cable to the block as well.

Fuel pump, ignition system, starter, alternator, air compressor, and gauges are all hooked up, the battery is ordered, when I get it I can hook it up and start doing some testing and look for escaping smoke - In other words, the engine run harness is almost done.

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Post #61 by lavron » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:38 pm

Engine run harness is done, I had to run down a few gremlins to get the air compressor to run (not really part of the engine run harness) and the fuel pump had an issue with the inertia switch being wired wrong from the factory (both wires connected to NC or NO terminals and nothing on the common terminal) got it fixed and the fuel pump is operational.

Not sure I mentioned it but I got a Braille AGM compact battery, looks like a lawnmower battery :roll: hooked it up with a 250 AMP circuit breaker. (You can see it is right behind where the rear seat would go if I was installing one, there will be an access panel on the inside of the car there)

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Here is pretty much all the engine wiring the only other wires to be added will be A/C stuff later.

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My biggest mistake I have found so far is totally messing up wiring the relays in the trunk (fuel pump and compressor) after blowing a few fuses on the compressor I got them sorted and wired correctly, my brain must have been broke the day I wired those :roll: I guess I wired the first one wrong and followed suit with the second one :P

Hopefully, I will be well practiced by the time I finish all the wiring on this car.

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Post #62 by bubba22349 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:03 pm

:beer: Mike :wow: that's a lot of wring going on with cool LEDs in the panels, all that detailing really looks great! :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #63 by Soldmy66 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:26 am

You keep on doing a great job, really impressive.

I continue to look forward to your updates.

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Post #64 by lavron » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:29 pm

Soldmy66 wrote:You keep on doing a great job, really impressive.


Thanks I try to make things neat and unusual :P I enjoy the work just wish all the parts were free.

I have been wiring other stuff as I wait for the last few parts to fire up the car, I got the turn signal switch back in and some of it hooked up, I actually made lights blink at the rear of the car but need to get some new sockets for the taillights, probably the front marker lights as well all of that stuff has gotten a little crusty over the last 56 years.

I am trying to add sequential taillights but the little cheap boxes I bought won't let the brake lights work right (they sequentially blink once and then go off) Speedway has one for around $50 so I think I will order it, it controls the brake lights as well and I can't get them to work set up according to the wiring diagram except for when the turn signal is activated, the new control boxes get a signal directly from the brake switch and bypass the turn signal switch.

Not too exciting stuff but all necessary, eventually :roll:

I will keep you guys posted.

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Post #65 by lavron » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:14 am

Made the headlights light up today (3 out of 4, one is burned out) Just about finished running all the wires for exterior lighting.

Final engine parts came today so I will be shifting back over to the motor for a bit.

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Post #66 by lavron » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:55 am

Just to finish up mostly done things before switching back over to engine work I got the truck headlight switch installed and the new dimmer switch, all the turn signal wiring is done, horn wiring is done.

The headlight switch was not a fully bolt in mod, the detents on the new switch are further back (see middle picture below) there are at least two solutions to this problem, getting a longer headlight knob or moving the switch slightly forward, I chose the latter.

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I had to cut the rear part of the bracket off that holds the switch and move it forward around 1/2" and rewelding it in place, I also had to cut off about the same amount from the bezel tube threads and liner.

They work like they should now.

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Post #67 by lavron » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:15 am

I tend to set myself goals as I build, I guess it gives me some sense of accomplishment, at one time I determined I would do the build in phases, as of today I reached the end of Phase1, which had a goal of the Comet running and driving I have achieved that :beer:

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The main thing not done yet, that I know everyone wants to see, is the custom intake and triple two-barrel carb install, that is still going to happen but in Phase2, so stay tuned for that.

Phase2 will mostly involve getting the car street legal, finishing the wiring, and installing the A/C system, bodywork and paint are two things included along with the interior. Phase2 is a little more open-ended than Phase1 and I guess i will decide when it is finished and if there will be a Phase3.

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Post #68 by gus91326 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:19 am

Impressive work! I dig it!

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Post #69 by lavron » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:00 pm

gus91326 wrote:Impressive work! I dig it!


Thanks.

I made another video, this one is really long and took all night to upload, my camera work and audio is not perfect by any means I guess I need more practice. What you will see in this video is more details on the Comet than I have ever shown.

Many Mods on My '64 Comet

There is a little info on what Phase2 will involve.

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Post #70 by bubba22349 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:47 pm

Thanks Mike, for making the video showing all the Comets details and parts choices for it! :nod: :thumbup:
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Post #71 by lavron » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:16 pm

bubba22349 wrote:Thanks Mike, for making the video showing all the Comets details and parts choices for it! :nod: :thumbup:


I hope it helps folks in at least a small way when you start really looking at and listing off all the stuff that has been done to the car 2 years doesn't seem like all that long, almost nothing went on the car that I didn't seem to modify in some way and then doing it all myself (except the machine work) there are a bunch of hours tied up pretty quickly, the only bad thing is if anything falls apart I won't have anyone else to blame.

If I had a nice climate-controlled shop (with lights even) and a nice collection of tools I might never come out :roll:

I do want to say having so many knowledgeable folks that are willing to take the time out and give advice is a super big help.

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Post #72 by Soldmy66 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:21 pm

I just got through watching the video. Everything you have done looks great. You are doing a terrific job.

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Post #73 by lavron » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:08 pm

Soldmy66 wrote:I just got through watching the video. Everything you have done looks great. You are doing a terrific job.


Thanks, wish I had done a better job on the video but I am still around to clarify anything anyone has questions on.

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Post #74 by lavron » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:29 am

I made a video of the 2-speed/intermittent wiper update on the cheap for my '64 Comet, it was a little over $100 in parts (I had some of them already) but you can do it cheaper by going and pulling your own parts at the junkyard instead paying someone on eBay to do it for you :roll:

Budget Wiper Upgrade

Forgive my poor video making abilities I will keep trying to improve them.

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Post #75 by lavron » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:40 am

Nearly finished with my homemade wiring harness, I have to replace a few things, mainly the turn signal switch is sketchy, I went out last night after dark to check my lights and noticed the third brake light on the package tray had about 3 or 4 LEDs lit on the right side and power is not even hooked up to the brake circuit so there is bleed coming through someplace and the only component common is the turn signal switch, I have a new switch on the way.

The cheap LED headlight bulbs are proving why they were cheap and I only have 3 working, I have new bulbs on the way for them as well, may need to look into some different tail light bulbs too that don't strobe but of the three different kinds of bulbs I bought they were the only ones that did not bleed over to the opposite side while flashing (again may be related to turn signal switch, but tested and don't think so) All the taillights came from Wish and were super cheap I may try to buy just two better ones and see if they are affected the same way.

Made a video showing everything about the wiring and lights.

Wiring Harness Near Done

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Post #76 by bmbm40 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:13 pm

Great video and outstanding accomplishment.
Although I worry that CCP state security apparatus is dissecting this video and appropriating all your technology now.
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Post #77 by lavron » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:02 am

bmbm40 wrote:Great video and outstanding accomplishment.
Although I worry that CCP state security apparatus is dissecting this video and appropriating all your technology now.


Thanks, I don't know if they will learn much but I probably stole some of my ideas from someone else, at least in part :P

Friday I got the brake light switch installed and discovered I am getting too old to lay on the floor of the car all twisted up :roll: I remember laying on my shoulders, lower half draped up over the seat and legs hanging over the seatback while working under the dash, now I have to take the seat out, pad the floor and still complain to myself about how I hate doing it while I try and avoid Charley horses in my legs at the worse possible moments, maybe why it takes me a bit to start some projects :roll: :P There is also that "while I am here" thing that happens.

I ended up removing the rubber bumper from the brake pedal and installing the switch in its place, will have to see how well the switch handles the abuse, the pedal really doesn't snap back hard and the rubber bumper wasn't even touching the mount.

Ran the wire for the backup lights but can't fully install until I put the rear bumper back on, they work however just sort of dangling from the back of the car :P

Got the new LED headlights installed but broke one of the bases on one of the new bulbs so I have one mismatched bulb in there, I ordered another pair so I guess I will have some spares, the cheap plastic base makes me a bit concerned to the longevity of the bulbs. They are really bright, however.

Hopefully I am doing well-balanced updates to the controls of the Comet as I go, the LEDs (though they have been a little headache) are bright and a little easier on the electrical system, I now have 2-speed wipers with an intermittent function instead of a single-speed, back-up lights where I had none, etc. I still want the car to feel original in a sense, and it does except the more responsive steering and better brakes are noticeable, can't say for the T5 yet, I haven't really had an opportunity to try it out.

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Post #78 by lavron » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:55 am

Attempted to do an at-home front alignment on the Comet yesterday and either I don't know how to use the little Speedway gauge (likely) or I messed up installing the upper control arm mounts on the M2 install.

I guess I will take to a professional to try and do an alignment, if they can't I have plans to do a modification to the upper mount eliminating the t-bolts.

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Post #79 by lavron » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:43 pm

Loaded up and headed to the muffler shop tomorrow morning for them to just look at it and tell me if they can make the pipes to attach the header to the exhaust pipes.

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Little nervous loading it because I was afraid of high centering it, but I raised it all the way up and nothing touched, there is no lack of power to pull up on there :P I let all the air out and strapped it down.

Spent the day making sure there was nothing loose on the car or anything that might want to blow out as I pull it down the highway.

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Post #80 by gonluis » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:58 am

Awesome project! I also enjoyed watching the video.

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Post #81 by lavron » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:00 pm

gonluis wrote:Awesome project! I also enjoyed watching the video.


Thanks, I hope someone can maybe glean a little help out of something I posted, I may not always do everything right but I am trying :P

Back to the muffler shop tomorrow to hopefully get the exhaust hooked up finally.

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Re: Lavron's '64 Comet Budget Build

Post #82 by Soldmy66 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:24 am

lavron wrote:
gonluis wrote:Awesome project! I also enjoyed watching the video.


Thanks, I hope someone can maybe glean a little help out of something I posted, I may not always do everything right but I am trying :P

Back to the muffler shop tomorrow to hopefully get the exhaust hooked up finally.

See Ya,
Mike


Remind us, what mufflers are you using? What pipe diameter? X pipe, Y pipe or no crossover pipe?

Have you ever considered an electric exhaust cutout, just because?

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Re: Lavron's '64 Comet Budget Build

Post #83 by lavron » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:05 am

Soldmy66 wrote:Remind us, what mufflers are you using? What pipe diameter? X pipe, Y pipe or no crossover pipe?


I have a pair of 18" Cherry Bomb Glass Packs under the rear seat pan, 2" duals and no X, Y, or Z :roll: pipe, I was going to do an X pipe and ordered one but when I got it, it was a Y pipe so I sent it back and just never ordered another.

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Soldmy66 wrote:Have you ever considered an electric exhaust cutout, just because?


Not really trying to keep it as maintenance-free as I can and probably would never run them and everything is so tight down there as is.

I got my new gauges temporarily mounted in the cluster frame so they aren't bouncing around on top of the dash.

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All AutoMeter 2 5/8" gauges, the oil and water temp are mechanical. On the stock cluster, the Ammeter is where the water temp is and the water temp is where the voltmeter is, I switched them around so the full sweep ones would match side to side.

Temp mounted the LED turn signal indicators as well but I am going to have to do some kind of custom work to fill in the original rectangle holes and make round ones for the new indicators.

See Ya,
Mike
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Re: Lavron's '64 Comet Budget Build

Post #84 by lavron » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:21 am

Everyone has probably already seen this but just so nobody thinks I am not been doing anything on the Comet, I mounted the grill at least temporarly and attached the I6 emblem to it.

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May take the grill back out so I don't lean on it while working on the motor and I still need to install an A/C condensor anyway.

I know a lot of guys have been waiting on the intake adapter to happen so I will get busy on it soon, I have a couple of little things to do so I don't forget like fixing the rubbing exhaust and replacing the fuel pump wire connector, I really don't like to leave stuff not finished and then have to go back and try to catch them all.

See Ya,
Mike
64 Comet 202 Sedan, 250- I6, Air Ride, Mll, 8.8 LSD, 4 wheel Discs
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