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64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

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64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #1 by Falconman62 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:02 am

Well guys I have hit a snag and was wanting your opions..... I am trying to replace the rear springs on my 64 Futura 4-door, I cant get the front eye bolt out. I think the bushing inside the rubber grommet is siezed to the bolt not allowing me to remove it. Is there any special trick to do this? I want to do eveything possible to try and avoid having to cut the bolt into three pieces just to get it out. I'll post some pics tomarrow if i have time. Any help would be greatly appriciated!

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #2 by rbohm » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:01 pm

8) take a sawsall and cut the bolts between the leaf spring and the mount.
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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #3 by Falconman62 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:18 am

That's what I am trying to avoid but if I have to I will

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #4 by BetsyBabe64 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:28 pm

I just replaced my leaf spring hangers with after market ones that allow me to adjust the height. I added some more beefed up springs from a 1980 ford explorer on top of my additional original springs. The point is, it was a pain in the ass for me and I couldn't do it. I ended up taking it to my mechanic buddy and he lifted the car up in the air with one of those car lifts, and he un bolted those hangers like it was nothing.

It could be that you don't have enough weight off of the back of the car. I was using a jack and a jack stand, I didn't have that much height going. How high off the ground is the car and how do you have it jacked up ?

i'm actually going back to my buddy today so he can lift the car up so we can replace the hanger bushings. The original 1964 ones finally fell apart.

ANYHOO good luck. I hope my little random rant helped.

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #5 by Falconman62 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:23 am

The car is plenty high off the ground. The springs are full relaxed and the axle is on a jack. So height isn't the problem..I guess it might be sawall time...bummer....

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #6 by BetsyBabe64 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:48 pm

Hey sorry it's taken me a few days to write this reply but I know the trick.

Your leaf springs are actually pushing up, so the trick is to put pressure down on them while your unbolt them. If the screw doesn't want to come out, take a wrench and use the circle part of it to apply pressure on the bolt at an angle and use a hammer to strike the wrench and move it out that way. It helps if you have two people.

i did that on one hanger. on the other hanger i used an impact drill in reverse and applied a little angled pressure and the bolt screwed right out. As soon as the leaf springs are free they will move up towards the body of the car.

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Don't have a jack on the axle. Put jack stands in front of the back tires, right on the frame of the body. There should be a perfect spot where the frame disappear into the body and you can place your jacks right into that nook.
If you have your axle on a jack, it will not allow the rear def and back suspension to drop and relax. I think that's your problem.

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #7 by aribert » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:12 am

Have you already removed the spring shackle - allowing the spring arch to be fully relaxed? If your car is/was from an area where road salt/moisture might have been an issue, I would suspect that your assumption of the bushing rusted to the bolt being correct.
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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #8 by Falconman62 » Sat May 01, 2010 3:07 am

Just to clarify about the axle, it is unbolted from the springs. So it is just the axle on the jack, not axle and springs. The u-bolt plates are off and just working on the spring by itself. I have jack stands on the rear frame rails holding the car up. I am also ahving problems trying to get the lower shackle bolt out of the spring. I'll try some more heat tomarrow and see what happens....Tanks for all the help!

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #9 by Falconman62 » Wed May 12, 2010 1:40 am

Well haven't been able to work on the car yet due to finals last week and weather this week....I guess we'll see what happens tomarrow

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #10 by Falconman62 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:06 am

Well it has been a while so here is the update. I have cut one side of the bolt on the drivers side and am working on the otherside. I have been through two metal sawzall blades and had to fix the sawzall ,had to do some cord work because it is an old sawzall. Got more blades today and hope the new springs may be in sooner rather than later! Will post pictures of before, during, and after when I am done.

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #11 by BetsyBabe64 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:09 am

wow. are those things welded in place or what ?

I still haven't gotten my new leaf spring bushings, so many other things have been coming up, that project got pushed aside. Are you going to keep the stock shackles or are you going to do something like add the hangers like what I have ?

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #12 by Falconman62 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:29 am

BetsyBabe64 wrote:wow. are those things welded in place or what ?
Are you going to keep the stock shackles or are you going to do something like add the hangers like what I have ?

They are rusted in. I am pretty sure these are the factory original spring packs and the metal insert in the front bushing is not even budging on the bolt. I am going all stock. Now on top of this the left rear wheel cylinder just started to leak and it is only 3yrs. old. Seems like a never ending battle.....well atleast I enjoy spending time on my cars!!

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #13 by Falconstein » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:37 pm

Hey falconman62... I have most of the old hardware that came out my wagon project. Probably the bolts etc. I also have some old aftermarket "helper springs" from the 70's. You are welcome to any of it If it will help you out. If you have trouble cutting the bolts you could use a 4" grinder with a cut-off wheel. I could loan you that too.
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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #14 by Falconman62 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:46 am

Thanks Falconstien, I might take you up on the bolts offer.

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #15 by Falconman62 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:29 pm

Well it is time for an update. I got the bolts cut and the springs pretty much out. I will be posting pictures as soon as I can find out where they all went (some on my brothers camera, some on mine). So I am going to see if I can have it back together this week.

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #16 by Falconman62 » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:16 am

No pics avail yet but new springs are in and am preping the plates for paint. Just got the new rear shoes and wheel cylinders too so I basically am ready to get her done this weekend....hopefully......

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #17 by woodbutcher » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:40 pm

:) Good luck on this weekend.Just hope "Mr.Murphy"don`t come to visit.
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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #18 by Falconman62 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:14 am

Thanks Leo....Murphy came to stay with me for the next week. School and job both.

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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #19 by woodbutcher » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:16 pm

:bang: :bang: :bang: What more can I say.Been there done that.Best of luck.
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Re: 64 4-door Rear Leaf Spring Replacement

Post #20 by Falconman62 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:38 am

Officially as of Saturday night, the rear spring replacement is finnished! One more time bleedin the brakes and she will be ready to go to Phx once again :lol:

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