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Is there a difference

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champ22
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Is there a difference

Post #1 by champ22 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:43 pm

Is there a difference from the hubs on a 65 Falcon where the tie rods attach, if it had prior power steering or factory, or a difference from one that didn't have power steering at all? Is the arm that attaches to the tie rod higher on one and lower on the other? Thanks please help.

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Re: Is there a difference

Post #2 by bubba22349 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:04 pm

if it had prior power steering or factory, or a difference from one that didn't have power steering at all?


This would be no :nod: The difference is the power steering center link Vs the manual center link.
Is the arm that attaches to the tie rod higher on one and lower on the other?


No! You would not want any difference as this would cause poor handling. Before 65 Falcons used two sinples one for the Six one for the V8. The 65 is supose to be the same for both 6 or 8, though after all these years there may have be some swapping of parts.
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Re: Is there a difference

Post #3 by champ22 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:12 pm

Mine is the V8 289. I bought a rack and pinion power system set up for my 65 and the tie rods that are in the kit gives me two sizes of tie rods to use depending on what was in there before. Neither of the two sizes will fit into the hub arm. It has the taper from the bottom and the taper needs to be from the top for this system to work properly. One guy said that to ream out the hole to install the tie rods into the top so I ordered a reamer. How much worth is in that idea?

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Re: Is there a difference

Post #4 by bubba22349 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:25 pm

I have not done that swap but I don't like the idea of just doing redo to a top taper won't be enough surface to hold the tie rod right. I would think that you would have to weld it up before doing it.
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: Is there a difference

Post #5 by champ22 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:21 pm

Thanks thats a good idea.

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Re: Is there a difference

Post #6 by champ22 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:40 pm

I was told by the factory man that do not taper the top down. It would give you the wrong action and steering problems. There is a difference between the 6 cyl and V8 parts. the spindle on the six is smaller in diameter which uses smaller size bearings and carry less weight. I did find out why my tie rods were not lining up and that was the new coil springs that was installed were too stiff. I am going to heat them some to lower the car 3 inches so i can attach the tie rods ends. then the rest of the system can be installed. Will up date this after I finish. thanks for all the input.

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Re: Is there a difference

Post #7 by bubba22349 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:58 pm

Why is it sitting up so high does the car have an engine in it now? You need to bounce the front end up and after you have jacked them up to get the suspension to settle back down into position.
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #8 by oldgrezmonke » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:27 pm

Heating the springs is NOT a good way to lower a car , for any reason .
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Re: Is there a difference

Post #9 by Beemer+ford6lover » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:04 pm

heating those springs up to lower the car will only give you a very dodgey suspension set up and all that work will be for naught! Try bouncing up and down the front end first to settle things out. Either way please for saftey's sake don't heat those springs up!
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Re: Is there a difference

Post #10 by champ22 » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:41 am

The springs might be HD springs as my car sits way too high in the first place. :bang: This car has been driven with the springs in this position for almost 1000 miles and if they haven't seated so to speak they aren't going to. They need to come down about 3 inches. I will look today for some spring clamps to lower it some to see how that goes first.

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