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Which Falcon Has The Best Parts Availability?

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Which Falcon Has The Best Parts Availability?

Post #1 by TheDude » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:02 pm

I own a 1965 Mustang with a modified I6 (see signature). Since I am looking for power, I decided to eventually swap to a 351W. I would like to continue my interest in inline engines by dropping the drivetrain into a Falcon. I prefer the looks of the 1964-65 Falcons. How good is the aftermarket support for Falcons from 1960-65? Is sheet metal readily available? Who are the top suppliers for parts?

I would like to build a Falcon into a fun driver that I can take on longer trips (gas mileage!), so I would like to be able to upgrade the suspension with things like roller perches and disc brakes. I would also like leaf spring options in terms of ride heights and harshness/softness.

Will suspension, steering and brakes in a 1965 Falcon interchange with a 1965 Mustang?

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Post #2 by FalconSedanDelivery » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:24 pm

The 1964-5 is supported by the aftermarket the most
Falcon 6's, FE's I Like them both , Sold all My 6 cyl stuff ( for now at least ) glad to pass along some tips though

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Post #3 by bubba22349 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:45 pm

Will suspension, steering and brakes in a 1965 Falcon interchange with a 1965 Mustang?



Mustang's were built off the Falcon platform so there are many parts that will interchange. :nod: There are several companies that carry Falcon sheet metal Mac's is one. :hmmm:
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Post #4 by 1bad6t » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:48 pm

Will suspension, steering and brakes in a 1965 Falcon interchange with a 1965 Mustang?

Everything will interchange but the centerlink. The Mustang is wider
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Post #5 by 64 200 ranchero » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:47 pm

my 64 falcon is half 65 mustang parts
60 ford ranchero daily driver. 200 tri power, modified c4 trans, ds2 distributor, msd programable 6al2, weber ict's, 8" rear end with full spool, 3.40 gears, 245 tires, CI dual out header, Dynomax muffler, 114hp shot wet nitrous kit. JE Forged pistons, 280 110lc cam, around 11-1 compression.

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Post #6 by TheDude » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:39 pm

Thanks for the help. Are there any big differences between 1964 and 1965 Falcons?

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Post #7 by 64 200 ranchero » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:46 pm

no just some cosmetic stuff 65 has a different grill and different tail lights, all parts are interchangeable
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Post #8 by 1bad6t » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:20 pm

65 had an alternator whereas the 64 has a generator therefore some of the wiring is different. 64 also has a horn relay so more different wiring.
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Post #9 by TheDude » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:30 pm

Thanks for the help!

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Post #10 by HARVEY LIGHT » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:34 pm

There were twice as many 64's as 65 's made so parts are more available for the 64. That being sad, I still went with the 65 because of the alternator issue and the availability of the C-4 tranny in the 65. The downside is that the grille is hard to find if you need a new one. I did and it took months to source one out - finally found someone scrapping one with a decent replacement at a reasonable price. Like others have said the 65 and the 65 mustang share nearly everything else mechanical so I found all my suspension pieces and a lot of other goodies in the mustang catalogs. Sheet metal for the 64 and 65 interchange but you may have to locate chrome trim for your 65 or modify the metal mounting for trim on a 64 panel.

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Post #11 by TheDude » Mon May 02, 2011 11:59 pm

How is the parts availability for a 1962 Falcon Futura?

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Post #12 by kukm66 » Tue May 03, 2011 9:29 pm

Here are some general guidelines but not inclusive

60-61 are the same body design
62-63 same
64-65 same

all 60-63 doors, interior,gauges,glass(except 62 1/2 Sport Futura - 63 rear glass/roof), engine mounts, brake setups are the same

60--61 have unique tranny crossmember( I belive the toe boards have a diff. pitch also)
62-65 have the same tranny crossmember

steering boxes are basically the same but 64-65 have a shorter shaft
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Post #13 by TheDude » Sat May 14, 2011 10:30 pm

I might be trying to work out a trade for a '62 Falcon Futura. What kind of suspension and brake upgrades can you do? Can you easily do disc brakes or upgrade to 5 lug? Can you do the A arm Shelby drop like on the '65 Mustangs? Also, what is the widest wheel that will fit in the rear?

Will the engine compartment fit a small block V8?

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Post #14 by TheDude » Sun May 15, 2011 12:28 am

I think I answered my own question about the fitment of the small block V8. I'm just curious, the only engine swap I would do would be a 200ci. I will eventually convert my '65 I6 Mustang to a 408W but I have always wanted a 2 door Falcon to put the I6 in.

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Post #15 by bubba22349 » Sun May 15, 2011 3:12 am

Can you easily do disc brakes or upgrade to 5 lug? Can you do the A arm Shelby drop like on the '65 Mustangs?
Will the engine compartment fit a small block V8?


Yes to all these questions is all bolt on stuff.

What kind of suspension and brake upgrades can you do?


Many ways you can go depending on if you want to use all stock Ford parts or custom after market. About anything that can be done to a 1964 to 66 Mustang can be done on the early Falcons is the same basic chassis.

Also, what is the widest wheel that will fit in the rear?


About 6 inches and with some relocation work up to an 8 inch could fit after that takes lots more work.
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Post #16 by TheDude » Wed May 18, 2011 4:40 pm

I will probably end up with the '62 2 door Futura. I'm stupid because I forgot to look at the inner apron VIN. The door tag VIN starts with a "3." What parts vendors are good? I'm not finding many online. I need a turquoise carpet, not the blue that the car has in it.

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Post #17 by kukm66 » Thu May 19, 2011 10:30 am

Send a pic showing the roof.
If your VIN is correct, you have the 62 1/2 Sport Futura with the 1963 roof design which took effect in 63.

http://home.earthlink.net/~falconcomet1963/

http://www.accmats.com/

Also http://originalauto.com/
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Post #18 by TheDude » Thu May 19, 2011 12:03 pm

Thanks for the links. Here is the car I will probably buy:

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Post #19 by TheDude » Thu May 19, 2011 11:01 pm

Has anyone used http://www.falconparts.com? They have carpets for $167. It says it is supplied by ACC, but the ACC website lists that carpet as $245.

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Post #20 by PhantomAce » Thu May 19, 2011 11:09 pm

Thedude:
I have bought a ton of stuff from Ron & Rosie at FalconParts.com.
Honestly, some items were a better deal than other suppliers, and some parts weren't.
But, in general, I've had pretty good experiences with them, and would recommend.
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Son's "Parts Car": '61 chero, local built 200, C9 head (1.75/1.50, 1.5 rocker), 274 cam, 2V direct, Clifford 6-to-2 header, C4, B&M QuickSilver, stock rear and susp (for now).

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Post #21 by Fingers » Fri May 20, 2011 8:43 am

A 7" wheel will fit, but tyre size is limited to about a 205, and possibly a 235 with folding the lip and some hammer work.
You cant go too low with a wide tyre, as the tyre rubs on the top of the wheelhouse.
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Post #22 by kukm66 » Fri May 20, 2011 9:34 am

That is a 63 Futura.

Notes on tire size:

stock backspacing was 3.5" - you can go up to sligthly over 4" without rubbing on the A-frame anything over a 205 will require a 60 or 65 series or rubbing may occur up front on the fender lip
I would not alter the rear lip unless you do not care about the original value of the car.
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Post #23 by improbcat » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:30 am

Can't help you with the falconparts part of the question, but I have ACC carpets in my Comet and have been very impressed with the quality. So if the falconparts carpets are ACC I'd say go for it at the cheaper price.

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Post #24 by TheDude » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:26 pm

I keep hearing bad things about ACC carpet in the vintage Mustang crowd. It's thin, has a low loop count, and the sewn edges are crooked and poorly finished. I don't know what to do about carpet for my Mustang or Falcon.

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Post #25 by improbcat » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:07 am

I used the molded carpet, maybe the sewn carpet is different but the molded carpet fit great.

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