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1963.5 Falcon Convertible Build

Post #1 by CoupeBoy » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:59 am

Now we won't be talking about the engine in this car.. it has two many cylinders :bang:

I had to break this up into 3 posts because the forum limits me to 10 URLs per post :roll:

1963.5 Falcon Convertible Photobucket gallery (sadly these are the only pictures I have of it)
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http://s689.photobucket.com/user/phl3gm ... onvertible
I want to use these rims that I picked up last year ($50 for the set, they are full aluminum and factory ford parts, none of that mid 70’s rubberized stuff, they are 14’s)
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I’m not really a huge fan of convertibles, I watched a movie called ‘room to live’ in high school that shows what happens when a car rolls and the roof caves in, so buying a convertible car was never high on my list. (now an early bronco or Scout is still on my list, but they would get a full roll cage). This car will get a roll cage of some sort, but it has to match the car, so I’m not sure if 4pt/6pt, only time will tell. My neighbor has an air over hydraulic tubing bender and he used to make his own roll bars with back when he used to race Midwest modified ¼ dirt track. I will be installing 3pt seatbelts front and rear, maybe 5pt racing harness in the front if I go with a jungle gym roll bar setup…

My Dad and ex-step-brother had it running 2 years ago when they moved it from one building to another. The brakes are frozen, according to them, they changed the points, used a gas can for a fuel supply and after cleaning the points and pouring some gas down the carburetor, it fired up and drove. I have not confirmed this..

Assuming the engine is good, Dad says the 1-2 clutch fork/synchronization has something wrong with it, he said last time he drove it on the road he had to shift 1-3-4, completely skipping 2. He also says he has another 4spd sitting in the barn that could be swapped in. So also assuming that the transmission is in good shape.. I’d like to get it from his house to mine (about 80 miles each way). The only rust I know of is behind the driver seat. Maybe replace that driver fender if it isn’t easily fixable. Blow the whole car apart and use the neighbors sand blaster with soda to remove all existing paint and surface rust. Build or buy some subframe connectors, weld them into place and then paint the entire car with something cheap like the Duplicolor Paint Shop system. And I am giving serious consideration to removing all body trim like the side spears and fender ornaments.

I think I need to build one of these first..
http://www.rollerhoop.com/
or something like this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li1nB2lFMQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWhFmOJ6gQ (kind of a long video, but the guy covers how he used it and how he built it.)
or in metal
http://www.angelfire.com/mo2/radrodder/ ... runit.html

Now I have been collecting parts for years, patience is my friend. So I have accumulated a lot inventory of used parts to pull from. I am already planning on selling some items to pay for this rebuild. You guys have already seen a few of my carburetors go down the road. I'll be putting more up for sale as time goes by.

After getting some sort of rotisserie I will get to work on the mechanicals.

Steering Upgrade
to get rid of the ‘spear of death’ 1pc steering shaft to steering box
1969 Torino Power steering box swap (16:1 ratio -- already have – we have 2 1969 GT Torino parts cars – both 302/C4 fastbacks – both rusted and/or wrecked )
1968 Mustang steering column (already have 1968 Mustang Parts car donation)
Rollerized idler arm (http://opentrackerracingproducts.com/idlerarm/)
I’m not sure if it is available, but I’m also going to look for the parts to do the Shelby Quick steer modification. It involves a longer pitman and idler arm.
1968 Mustang Daily Driver Rebuild (on hold for the Season 3/1/2015)
1963.5 Falcon Convertible Build (just getting started 3/15/2015)
Case 1830 Skidsteer FordSix Repower Thread (started 4/4/2015)
1970 170/C4
1967 200/C4
1965 240/bellhousing/flywheel/clutch/3.03 bell pattern
1975 250/flexplate
1975 300/flywheel

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Post #2 by CoupeBoy » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:59 am

Front Suspension Upgrades
Box the upper and lower control arms (see attached document, not certain I want a rollerized LCA, but may do it to the UCA, I will do screw in LCA ball joints)
Build another set of rollerized spring perches (http://dazecars.com/dazed/opentracker.html )
Perform the Shelby/Arning mod with improved Caster (http://dazecars.com/dazed/drop.html )
I’ll also convert it to having adjustable lower control arms like my ’68, most likely using a kit (like http://dazecars.com/dazed/test.html#5 )
Build a set of adjustable strut rods (http://dazecars.com/dazed/adjustable.html -- check out the set from rosehillperformanceparts.com toward the bottom of the article)
Build a belly bar that ties to the LCA mount bolts also.
15/16” swaybar from a 1975 Granada (already have)
I need to research bump steer kits and possibly reinforced center link options as well. (check out the cobraautomotive.com catalog http://www.cobraautomotive.com/catalog/ ... nsion.html on page 6 to see what I’m talking about)

FWIW, here is an aftermarket belly bar for Falcons.. Just in case yours doesn’t have one already. It doesn’t have tie-ins for the LCA bolts.. but something is better than nothing.
http://www.falconparts.com/ford-falcon- ... 8p1151.htm


Unless I somehow run across about $700. Then I am going straight to this kit
http://www.classicperform.com/NewProduc ... bFrame.htm
I will still need to build some rollerized spring perches though.
I like this kit because it eliminates the strut rod (adjustable or not) and that ¼” plate has got to add some stiffness to the 50yr old unibody.

Rear Suspension
Probably leave it stock for now, I've been talking with a guy about a 2.5" rear leaf swap upgrade.
Swap the front sway bar onto the rear (document attached)
If I stay with stock springs long term, I’ll add a panhard bar (or watts link depending on available space) and a torque arm, and start researching options for a sliding shackle instead of a swinging shackle.
Building/Installing the Torque arm would be an attempt to reduce the amount of twist that is forced through the unibody when applying torque to the ground through the tires.

Brakes
Up front I am going to do research to do a GM B-body caliper on Granada rotor swap, get measurements and probably have some brackets made here at work.
http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/braking ... alcon.html
Out back, I’ll just rebuild the drums.
Maybe drill the drums.. maybe not (http://www.chtopping.com/CustomRod4/ )

CSRP (http://www.discbrakeswap.com/ ) has crossed my mind as a possible out of box solution. I'd have loved to go with a modern (2005+ Mustang) swap, but at minimum those require 16" rims, and the GT swaps require a minimum 17" rim. 16" rims are the maximum diameter that will comfortably fit under a Falcon of this vintage.

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Post #3 by CoupeBoy » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:02 am

Under the hood
Fully weld the Shock Tower plates (I did this on my ’68 to fix a crack – love it and its basically free viewtopic.php?t=51848 )
I’ll probably research additional shock tower bracing (ala 69 Boss Mustang style – example http://opentrackerracingproducts.com/towerkit/ )
Install a set of the custom motor mounts that I make
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More Pictures (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/phl3gm ... r%20Mounts )
Install a set of the shock tower braces that I make
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More Pictures:(http://s689.photobucket.com/user/phl3gm ... ut%20Brace )
Swap the shock tower caps from Falcon (center bolt) to 1968 Mustang type (look like your 1969 Mustang ones)
1968 Mustang Daily Driver Rebuild (on hold for the Season 3/1/2015)
1963.5 Falcon Convertible Build (just getting started 3/15/2015)
Case 1830 Skidsteer FordSix Repower Thread (started 4/4/2015)
1970 170/C4
1967 200/C4
1965 240/bellhousing/flywheel/clutch/3.03 bell pattern
1975 250/flexplate
1975 300/flywheel

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Post #4 by falcon fanatic » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:27 pm

Lookin good! Can't believe you still have this in works, it's been years.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #5 by CoupeBoy » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:18 pm

And it might be another few.. the car is mine, its time and money that are holding me back. If only life would slow down.

This isn't even my oldest project.. That distinguished prize belongs to my 1967 Mustang Coupe (200/C4) which I bought in 1993.

I've been working with a couple forum members to develop new parts, I thought it was going well, but lately progress on website development has fallen off..

Fun stuff coming though.. I just finished working with one member to come up with this..

It is a drawing and a CAD file for now, but I hope to cut a prototype soon..
This is a small 6 small pattern (think automatic/2.77) bellhousing to Small Block Ford Adapter plate.
i6_SBF_Adapter_600.jpg

After I'm certain that the bolt and alignment pin spacing is workable, I'll cut one out of thicker steel like 3/8" and a corresponding crankshaft spacer. Then small six guys can use whatever SBF transmission they want..

I've already been giving thoughts to the next mutation of this idea.. small 6 to SBC.. open up ability to use powerglides or 200R4's... but how to mount the starter... I do realize that SBF to SBC adapters exist, but stacking adapters seems questionable.

I have permission from a local mustang club member to borrow his 'spare' 1966 Mustang 200/Dag for test fitting the motor mounts, transmission mounts, and tubular strut tower braces.

I'll also be using his car to test fit some UCA brace plates, and make some additional parts.
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Post #6 by CoupeBoy » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:58 am

Look what followed me home this weekend (3/15/2015)
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No rust on the outside, but it is banged up a bit.
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I knew it had rust on the bottom, I thought it was in the driver rear floor pan, its not. It is under the rear seat.
I had to clear out all of this stuff, by this time, I had already taken out a set and a half of hubcaps and an air compressor pump (not an AC pump).
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Then I tore up the rotting carpet to get down to floor pans.
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Those bit chunks were a conglomeration of layers of dirt, carpet, and underlayment. I wore gloves and used a big prybar to break it all loose.

So here is the rust..
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I haven't totally cleaned out the passenger side yet, but I know there is come of this over there as well, I saw it from underneath.
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Post #7 by bubba22349 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:23 pm

:beer: I like it looks like it's very complete. :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #8 by CoupeBoy » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:38 pm

It is very complete, I'd say aside from a broken driver side rear window (and bent frame), I'd say all the major components are there still.
I talked to an older fella in Casselton ND at a gas station on the way home, he said the dents should come out fairly easily.

I looked at the title and since it was last checked in Oregon, this car has had 2000 miles put on it between 1986 and now.

I need to find a source of patch panels, do they need to be Falcon specific or can first generation Mustang patches be used?
I will use all the trim that I have now, I'll give it an attempt at restoring it myself, but eventually I may have to search for replacement trim to replace some of the more damaged parts.

From the badging you can see that it *was* a 260/4spd car. However the original motor is long gone and in its place is a newer 6 bolt bellhousing block motor (its blue not red). Story goes that right shortly before we moved from Oregon to North Dakota (sometime between 86-88), Dad pulled a motor out of a '65 Falcon Station Wagon (White, red interior) and put that motor into the Convertible.
I haven't looked for casting numbers to determine vintage of the motor in the car now; I also have no idea what displacement it is, nor do I care.
Under the hood, you can see remnants of why the previous motor was replaced.
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Top of the bellhousing, two bolts spread wide.
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That is good news, easier to swap motors!
I've already got the correct (modern) SBF to small pattern 4spd.
Since the original motor is long gone, and Dad says the 4spd (small pattern T10) has problems with 2nd gear, he used to jump from first to third.
That leaves it open for me to swap in a 240, 250, or 300 and an SROD, I've also got a 3.03 or another T10 that could be used.

So I will get to do the motor swapping that I planned for my '68 Mustang, the engine bay will just be a touch smaller. :beer:
I'll get to do a lot of the other things to this car at the same time also, since the '68 is back on the road for the Summer.

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Post #9 by bubba22349 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:07 pm

I agree that the dents should be fairly easy to fix, on patch panels I have not tried using the Mustang floor pans in a Falcon they may work. However I suspect that they are probably different so unless you already have some good used floors to rework or first do some careful measurements of a 65 or 66 Mustang convert to see if they are anywhere close to the same. Though the Falcon platform was used to build the Mustang chassis the layout is a little different and also the convertible rear floors are not the same as some of the other Falcons. The Falcon floors for a 2 door or 4 door are suppose to be the same length and the Hardtops (1963 to 65) are suppose to use the same heavier gauge floors, torque boxes, etc as the Convertibles yet some say they are not quite the same fit, but this might be due to extra diagonal braces that I believe are under the rear pans going over to the rockers which are also different. So,think you may be money ahead and be saving some time by getting the Falcon spec Floors over trying to mod the Mustang parts. But I have very little in the way of experience with the Converts to be able say for 100%.

Here is one source for the Falcon floor pans and there are probably many others try contacting them since they are building a 1963 1/2 Falcon Convertible to see if there is much to moding them to fit. http://www.falconparts.com/pc/Floor-Pans-c68.htm.

The motor in it looks like a 1968 to early 70's vintage by some of the top end parts lIke the valve covers, oil cap, etc. So is likely a 289 or maybe even a 302, it dose have an early intake and carb though, maybe it's from the original 260. You have lots of transmissions to pick from! The T10's shift really smooth I think it would be a very good choice for a 250 build the SRod would be good too as you would then have an overdrive for those long drives into Town. Would be a fun build good luck on it :nod: Edited
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #10 by CoupeBoy » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:08 pm

When I said broke glass and bent frame, I meant the window frame. The car frame is straight, all door, hood, and trunk gaps look great.

Bent Window Frame
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Anybody know if the convertibles and hard tops use the same windows frames/glass?

Last night, I finished cleaning out the last of the mouse poop, rust and carpeting from the cabin area
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Same rust as the driver side
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Tonight I hope to get the trunk cleaned out,
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The whole car pressure washed and then finally off the trailer.

First thing I'm going to do after its off the trailer will be to tear into the brakes, right now they are all dragging, making it a bear to push, they don't work either way, so no brakes vs what is on there is no different. But it will be easier to push around at least.

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Post #11 by bubba22349 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:14 pm

LOL yeah I was thinking to myself that car is way too straight to have a bent frame!

The Hardtop window frames are different however you might be able to rework the front section it includes bottom part, of a Hardtop (Futura / Sprint frame) and combine it with your rear stainless steel part of your frame. Check the Digital pictures of a 1963 1/2 Ford Falcon Sprint below link you can see the frame shape of the rear windows are different. Yours doesn't look all that bad though it could maybe be straightened, repaired, and then re plated, a really good Chrome shop should be able to fix that Die cast part. Good luck :nod:

http://garagemdigital.blogspot.com. Edited
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #12 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:37 am

Let me be abundantly clear, the goal this year is to make the car drivable and safe.
I'll be starting the search for floor pan replacement panels today, I'd like to replace that whole piece of metal from side to side and up into the foot well area ahead of the upright panel.
You guys will find out soon enough that I am NOT a body man.

Then its brakes, either repair the stock ones or finish working on my
DIY Disk Brakes -- FordSix Forum
Either way I upgrade to a NON-power dual reservoir master cylinder.

So last night, I cleaned out the trunk
From this
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to This
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And after plugging up my shop vac several times and scraping out 3/8" of built up grease around the edges of the gas tank, I ended up with

This
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Then I washed the whole thing, probably the first time it has been this wet in 30 years.
FWIW, the title shows that it was last checked for mileage in 86 and the tags expired in 89. According to the Odometer reading on the title and the current odometer reading, the car has put on 2000 miles in the last 29 years.

So, pressure washer and a little scrubbing with soap and water.
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Sadly after cleaning the trunk, I got a better look down into the trunk drop offs, and found some pin hole rust on the
Passenger side
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Only a few tiny ones in the
Driver Side
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Then for kicks before I unloaded it off the trailer, I took a pic of all the Fords in the yard.
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Now getting it off the trailer turned out to be 'interesting'
As I said before, the brakes don't work.
I tested the clutch and it *seemed* to be working.
So I put it in reverse (the engine is free) and slowly pushed myself backward with 1 foot out the door.
Then the car started rolling, in a fit of madness, I stepped on the brake pedal, it didn't work, I knew it wouldn't. So I pressed it HARDER, still an exercise in futility. The pedal is now stuck to the floor. So I let out the clutch, hoping it would slow down the car. It did not, so I pulled in my leg, slammed the door and rode it down off the trailer. This whole process probably took less than 5 seconds.

Now for all those wondering, the proper way would have been to use a length of chain from the front of the trailer all the way to the front of the car. Then hook up my come-a-long back onto the front of the car with just enough slack, enough that would allow the rear wheels to start rolling down the beaver tail of the trailer. Then after gravity was taking over, I could have slowly winched the car down and off the trailer.

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Post #13 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:59 am

As I said before, this car seems amazingly straight with good door gaps, aside from the fact that the previous drivers must have thought it was a bumper car.

Hood
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Doors
These pictures also show that both doors apparently were left open when they backed into stuff, tearing up the leading edge of the door skins.

Driver Side
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Passenger
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The other big dents are in the leading edges of the front fenders
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And the Passenger Side quarter panel
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I've got a ton more pictures on the photobucket album, currently up to 169 pictures since Saturday..
1963 Falcon Convertible -- Photobucket
So if there is anything you'd like to see let me know.
Now that the initial clean up is complete, or as complete as it needs to be, I will be creating directories under that photobucket album for upgrades and repairs. I wish I had created one for the initial pictures, but I've pretty much committed to this structure now. I.E. I don't want to go back through and update all the photo links.

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Post #14 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:01 pm

I'll probably have a whole section on cleaning/wire wheeling the bottom side of this car.
The floor pan (was), and at least the front inner fender area is completely covered in what appears to be roofing tar.

Passenger rear floor pan, tar chunk.
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Driver Front Fender, layer O'tar
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Chunk from that front fender area that I broke off and dropped on the trailer
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my guess is that removing it is going to be he1lish.

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Post #15 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:31 pm

Obsession is bad for productivity.. if it is not work related. I made some calls.
No
Macs Auto Parts
(800)828-1051
http://www.macsautoparts.com

Dearborn Classics (part of the Macs' Auto Parts Group -- redundant)
1-800-252-7427
http://www.dearbornclassics.com/

Cant get through to on phone to
Melvin's Classic Ford Parts
(770)761-6800
http://www.melvinsclassicfordparts.com/

Falcon Parts.com (I sent them an email through their webpage)
(916) 339-2818
http://www.falconparts.com/

Possibly
Andy's Auto Sport
1-800-419-1152
http://www.andysautosport.com/

1963 Falcon Floor Pans
http://www.andysautosport.com/floor_pan ... /1963.html

Classic 2 Current Floor Pan Under Rear Seat - Drivers Side
http://www.andysautosport.com/products/ ... 444-1.html

Classic 2 Current Floor Pan Under Rear Seat - Passenger Side
http://www.andysautosport.com/products/ ... 444-2.html

This is both of them, I called their Customer Support they said that usually the pictures are correct
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Post #16 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:35 pm

Auto Krafters
1-800-228-7346
540-740-8000
http://www.autokrafters.com

They may have them, they say will fit after some trimming along the outer edge to make room for the additional rocker panel bracing on convertibles.
https://www.autokrafters.com/c-873-floo ... ?pagenum=1

1963 Ford Falcon FLOOR PAN - REAR 60-65 FALCON RH
https://www.autokrafters.com/p-4224-flo ... on-rh.aspx
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1963 Ford Falcon FLOOR PAN - REAR 60-65 FALCON LH
https://www.autokrafters.com/p-4225-flo ... on-lh.aspx
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I got an email from Falcon Enterprises (Falcon Parts.com), and I think it sums up what I've been thinking after looking around.
"Jeff Wilson wrote:Ron,
The picture did not come up for me. With the convertibles there is no floor
pans available. The issues arise from the additional support put in the
floors of the convertibles. Anything we have to offer will need to be
modified and cut to make it work. Might be easier to have someone fabricate
the piece.
Thanks Jeff Wilson
Falcon Enterprises
FWIW, I had sent him a link to this picture
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It shows the additional support that he is talking about.

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Post #17 by bubba22349 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:59 pm

There was a place in Oklahoma that carried NOS Ford parts if it's still in business. I think it was Oklahoma Obsolete Ford parts?
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Post #18 by CoupeBoy » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:10 am

No work on the car last night, but I did start modeling for Making my own Gas Tank Cover -- FordSix Forum
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Thanks for the tip, I looked them up and called them
Obsolete & Classic Auto Parts
Address: 8701 S I-35 Service Rd, Oklahoma City, OK 73149
Phone:(405) 631-3933
http://www.classicautoparts.com/

I talked to a nice fella named Roy, he said they to call

company in phoenix called
Desert Valley Autoparts
800-905-8024
Who apparently have their own TV show called
Desert Car Kings.
http://www.dvap.com/desert-car-kings/

They didn't have Convertible pans, but he offered to sell me Coupe/Hard top pans for $180 each (left/right)

I'm still leaning toward the DIY, its such a small spot, only about 2-3" at the bottom of the drop off, but it is almost the full width of the car.

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Post #19 by vssman » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:00 pm

I used the full length pans from AutoKrafters in my 63 drop top. They fit with a bit of trimming on both 'outside' edges due to the inner rocker being larger on a convertible. Toe boards were also used with no major issues. If I recall correctly, I really only needed to fold the edge as a lip to weld to the rocker. POR 15 both sides to keep from rusting again.
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Post #20 by super4ord » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:37 pm

Obsolete Ford Parts is now called Obsolete & Classic Auto Parts. They are still at the same location; on the I-35 service road (west side) south of 74th, but just north of 89th street (8701 south interstate 35 is the address). They still have a website too (classicautoparts.com). I have purchased many parts from them. I used to order from them when I was in southern California. Now I just stop by there. They are only a couple of miles from my house.

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Post #21 by CoupeBoy » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:48 pm

I've been swamped with other household stuff, lately so I haven't been working on the car, doesn't mean I haven't been conspiring..

I need to pull the suspension and motor/trans when it up under the hood, so I figured, why not so some improvements while I'm in there.

I started a couple threads for some upcoming projects that I want to get done.
Reinforcing the Falcon Unibody -- Export Brace
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Post #22 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:33 pm

As I said in one of the threads.. I was looking for tastefully executed roll bar installations that allow normal usage of the convertible top, give me a top mount point for 3pt seatbelts, and allows use of the rear seat.
I'll contact my neighbor about building/installing one, he used to build from scratch dirt circle track cars and he is an excellent welder himself, he might even have the equipment still. Won't know until I ask.

Plus, I've mentioned this before, Convertibles scare the crap out of me, probably even more so than the 'spear-o-death' steering column.

I found this thread over on the Vintage Mustang Forum
Roll bars in Verts........... VMF
A good looking '65 Mustang, the only thing it looks like he is missing is front door bars.
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He set the main hoop to line up with the separation area between door and back seat windows (would be mostly obscured when the top and windows are up)
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Post #23 by bubba22349 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:53 pm

:thumbup: good fabrication work on the Mustang I take it he's not planing on having a useable rear seat with the main hoop so far forward. :nod:
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Post #24 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:39 pm

In the VMF thread, they stated that the back seat was usable, but only by climbing over the top when it's down. Or by climbing between the seats (by his kids). The back sets in these cars are not adult friendly in the first place and it would be my kids (ages 4 and 6) climbing into the back. So that should be fine.

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Post #25 by bubba22349 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:26 pm

:beer: I hear you, actually thinking way back to being a Kid I always liked being in the back seat too. So are you going just for a roll bar like that or a cage? :nod:
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Post #26 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:37 pm

A roll bar should suffice.

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Post #27 by CoupeBoy » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:01 pm

Today is my Dad's 63rd birthday, and the two things that he keeps asking me about regarding the Falcon
1. Have I started it yet?
2. Have I put the top down yet. (power top)

Until this morning I had to keep telling him "no" to both.
I have never seen the top down on this car and he's owned it for a very long time.
This morning I hooked up some jumper cables from my DD to the ancient battery that is under the hood and I used the indash switch to lower the top. Probably for the first time since at least 1986.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSuJXw93Egk

amazing that it works and does not leak anywhere.

When I get home tonight I plan on doing the other task/request.

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Post #28 by bubba22349 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:43 pm

:cool: won't take much more than cleaning and lubing of all the moving parts to make that top work like new. :thumbup:
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Post #29 by CoupeBoy » Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:36 pm

That was the very first time I ever tried to use that top.
Luckily it was a success, otherwise I wouldn't have posted the video :roll:

I'm sure if I run it up and down a few times to free up the joints, it will start working much better.
Anybody have a recommendation as to what to lube it with?

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Post #30 by bubba22349 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:26 am

Back in the day Ford used a white grease for many of the hinged and moving items like that i.e. door latches, window regulators, hood, trunk, and door, hinges, etc. NAPA caries WG in a spray can, Silicon type lube would work too. You could also hit the hinges with some Twice As Good or PB Blaster to loosen it up.
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Post #31 by CoupeBoy » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:43 am

I'm probably not going to do anything with the hinge points on the convertible top until I start worrying about replacing the convertible top (which may not happen this year)
When I got home last night I hooked up the jumper cables from the pickup (2005 F250 6.0 diesel -- dual batteries, more CCAs), the Falcon fuel line is trashed, so I used a short chunk of gas line into a 1 liter pop bottle (bottle and hose was left in the car by Dad), I poured a little gas down the carb, it cranked slow the first couple times, I pumped the snot out of the gas pedal. And eventually it did start, run, and idle.

My guess is that the accelerator pump on the 2bbl is shot, and that the entire exhaust system is one giant leak.
http://youtu.be/aNDPMMdYsCg

I also sat in the driver seat and started it a couple times.
My son did not approve.. :rolflmao:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFlkazMzJY4

I did try to move it under its own power also.. it doesn't. The clutch is completely shot. I am pulling the motor and transmission anyhow, I need to have the transmission looked at, and I want to make all the conversion mounts to put in your choice of a small or big six. Plus all the shock tower reinforcement plates need to be welded in.

I will also be rebuilding the entire brake system, at minimum I will replace all rubber parts (hoses/wheel cylinders), upgrade to a dual reservoir master cylinder, install new brake shoes and hold down hardware. I'll get the drums turned at a local parts store ($10/each) if they look worn, I will order new ones for the rear.

Up front I should just commit to performing the DIY disc brake upgrade, it makes the most amount of sense, I have to buy a new dual reservoir master cylinder anyhow..
One thing I need to do some searching for is moving the brake light switch from a pressure operated one (original style) to a brake pedal operated switch. If you have a link I'd appreciate it.

I should order this soon too..
BALL BEARING CLUTCH PEDAL CONVERSION $40
and the Spring Perch Roller kit from Daze (same one I used on my '68 Mustang)
Unfitted Master Kit $20.99 plus $6 shipping

I'm going to build myself one of these.. apparently they are all the rage.. (for cheap SOBs like me :wink: )
INCREDIBLE Tip-Over Jig - Inexpensive Rotisserie Alternative -- YouTube Video
INCREDIBLE Tip-over JIG!!! -- GarageJournal.com
Winter Project -- GarageJournal.com <-- 1965 Galaxie 4dr rebuild
P-86 Mustang -- TampaRacing.com <--1986 Mustang
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Post #32 by ludwig » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:00 pm

They say a man looks at his car the same way a woman looks at her husband -- what it will be like when it's finished.
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Post #33 by vssman » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:02 pm

Take it from me: Lubricate the pivots on the top. I didn't when I got my 63 drop top to restore. One day I attempted to lower the top while doing some body work and the pivot bound. The cylinders are strong enough to bend the frame *severely* resulting in having to find a replacement top frame.
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Post #34 by CoupeBoy » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:17 pm

[vssman, good to know, I will lubricate pivots ASAP]
Ludwig, based on your statement of men with cars and women with men.. I can now tell you that women are crazy. :rolflmao:

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while looking my Falcon over after getting it home, it has coil over shocks at all 4 corners.
I like the ride height, but coil over shocks is unacceptable, almost as bad as air shocks.

Don't look directly at the motor.. but on either side of it you can see the coil over shocks. (ew)
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I have several sets of front coil used springs, known stock '68 sbf/auto, known '65 Mustang sbf/3spd, and a set of unknown coils under my workbench at home. If anybody knows how I can get these tested for spring rate, I'd appreciate it.
I should have enough bits to button up the front, I will also be 'upgrading' it to use Mustang spring tower caps -- so I can use standard Mustang shocks.

But in the back, the Falcons have a 2" leaf spring that is sort of unique.
Quite a while ago (circa 2010), SoCar72, rbohm, and myself had a thread running..
Possible to use Mustang leaves on Falcon? -- FordSix Forum
Looks like I finally get to find out if a 2.5" spring will fit.
The issues that arose are that nobody has measured the true width of the front leaf spring bushing mount. The 2.5" Mustang leaf *might* just drop in with a bit of grinding on the bushing itself.
And then the fact that the Mustang leaves are too long
SoCar72 wrote:I'm considering taking a stab at this. I really want to replace the original leafs on my '63. I spec'd out my '69 Mustang leafs and found that the front arc (eye to leaf pin) was the same as my '63, But as you know the width's are different by 1/2". But looking at the narrower Falcon leafs, it sure looks like that with some reshaping of the bushings, the later (wider) springs could be fitted without cutting / welding. However, my plan fell short when I measured the rear arc, the '69 is too long to adapt. :(
Later he comes around with a semi-solution
SoCar72 wrote:CoupeBoy, I did some math comparing spring rates using a formula from Herb Adams Chassis Engineering book.

(width x number of leaves / 12) x ([1000 x thickness] / overall length) 3rd power = spring rate in pounds per inch of travel

Comparing the early Falcon springs (narrower and shorter) and the Mustang springs (wider and longer), the 2 springs are within about 2 lbs-in of each other, 1%, assuming both are 5 leaf. Other than "Mustang springs on a Falcon", there appears to be no discernible benefit to swapping them in.

I'm going to recant my stab at trying this, which does appear to be possible with only relocating the rear shackle to accommodate the long leaf.

One advantage with retaining the narrow springs is the possibility of offsetting the bushings to the interior which would allow the spring to be pulled inboard by about 1/4" inch for a little more wheel/tire clearance. Which should allow a 17x8 wheel with 5.25" backspace and a 245/50 tire to clear, assuming minimal or no side deflection of the suspension. :mrgreen:
Luckily the thread by Craig510 tackles just this issue
http://www.tffn.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=21378&start=120
You can see in this picture that he drilled a hole through his rear frame rails farther rearward of the stock shackle mount. This is just a mock up.
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He made and clamped in place some reinforcement plates.
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And fully welded those plates into place
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I consider that to be option A.
For option B, I am considering using Shackle sliders.

There are a million different types out there, this is one of them.
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Others have brass bushings, some have roller bearings

I'd make a bracket that bolts through existing holes in the frame rail (like the stock shackle bushing hole) and captures the rear eyelet of the spring.

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Post #35 by CoupeBoy » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:03 pm

As I understand it, 63 was the year that Ford started painting the engine bays black. In previous years they had been body color.
What do you guys think, black? Body Color?

I'm seriously leaning toward painting the engine bay, both inside and out, along with the entire underbelly a nice shade of battle ship grey inside and out.
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Why grey?
As a tribute to the old Trans Am Racing cars
'68 trans am tribute build -- VMF Forums

While I'm on the topic.. how much of the outer shock tower (fenderwell area) should I undercoat?
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Post #36 by CoupeBoy » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:52 pm

I was reading another Mustang tribute build thread and ran across these, I've never seen them before.
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Classic Tube Dual Exhaust Floor Pan Reinforcement Plate with Seat Belt Nut Access Hole Pair 1966
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Might be an interesting piece of metal to patch my particular rust holes.
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Post #37 by falcon fanatic » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:04 pm

So, where are we with this project?
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #38 by CoupeBoy » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:24 pm

I've driven it in the yard a couple times to and from the barn.

Last summer had a bunch of set backs.. After I brought home the falcon, I brought home a Case 1830 skidsteer that I still haven't finished the motor swap on. I brought home a 1971 Airstream Sovereign that I am now remodeling from a rear bath, to a rear master bed/side bath floor plan. And then to make things even worse, late last fall in August, I bought a 1975 F250 Crew Cab 4x4. All of these projects were on hold for the Winter, its hard to get motivated when its dark 16hrs of the day and always below freezing.

I did start it this morning just to hear it run.
I really do need to get back to it.

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Post #39 by falcon fanatic » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:33 am

You're a busy man! My wife would kick me to the curb if I showed up with all of those relics. She is pretty excited about the fuel injected falcon just in time for spring, though.
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Post #40 by CoupeBoy » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:34 pm

Its been a while since I spent any time with the old bird, and I haven't posted many pictures.
Its been parked in the barn.
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Outside the barn.
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Its been parked in the shop while other projects stacked up on and around it, replaced all lights in the ceiling of the shop, and the fuel tank on the '75 F250.
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Inside the barn is the best place to get the interior dusty, not that it really matters that much since it all needs to be replaced/updated anyhow.
I figure the first time I take it on the open road, the dust will blow out.
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Back in April, I pulled the Falcon into the shop, put it up on jack stands, and pulled the wheels in preparation for replacing all 'consumable' brake hydraulic parts (master cylinder, rubber hoses, wheel cylinders)
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I had to measure the drums to verify which parts to buy.
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The rear leaf springs look like they are in good condition, and have rubber liners in between the leaves.
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This car unfortunately has coil over shocks at all 4 corners.
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Yesterday I replaced the original style fruit jar master cylinder, I know I should have upgraded/updated it. And I will later when I go to disk brakes.
I replaced the rear wheel cylinders, but when I got to the front wheel cylinders and hoses, that is what stopped me in my tracks. The bolts from the 'original' front wheel cylinders are at least 1 size larger than the 'new' wheel cylinders will accept. I didn't measure them, but the original bolts are 5/16" and the new wheel cylinders are designed to accept 1/4". So I am off tot he parts store today to get different wheel cylinders.

I'll be spending some more time with the Falcon over the next couple weeks, it won't be pretty, but I do hope to be able to drive it 80 miles to my Dad's house over Father's Day weekend.

punch list items.. for the next 3 weeks.
finish brakes
rust repair under the rear seat
matching size tires and wheels (optional)

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Post #41 by CoupeBoy » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:12 pm

Brakes have been finished.
I drove it today through all 4 gears up to 60mph, everything with the drivetrain works... and stops!

I poured gas into the fuel tank and it ran right out the bottom, through the tank.
Does anybody have a recommendation for where to buy a tank that fits the old 'vert?

And I have to start figuring out the lighting issues, the only one that works is the driver side headlight.

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Post #42 by vssman » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:25 pm

Falcon tanks are repopped but are typically 16 gallon which requires a new sender if you want an accurate fuel gage when it gets low. If you need more gallons than that, I've heard mustang tanks fit the opening but have a raised top which stick up into the trunk and they need a bit of help to fit the filler.
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Post #43 by CoupeBoy » Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:25 pm

The information I've been seeing all say there is a 16g tank for an upgrade to the original 14g, and that I need to use a new fuel sending unit, which I'd probably want to do anyhow.
When I stopped at the parts store over lunch I picked up all new lights.. headlight (just 1), (4) 1157, (4) dash bulbs, a new brake light switch, and a new flasher. I had them look up the fuel tank, and his system didn't even have a convertible as an option.

For a coupe, they listed
Spectra f288 16 gallon with drain plug ($161)
or
Spectra F28F 16 gallon without drain plug ($152)

Both required a new sending unit that is an FG86A, which IIRC was $55.85

I did not order anything from them today.

I find that Mustang tank idea interesting.. I have a 16 gallon tank in a '65 Mustang, and a 22 gallon tank from a '70 Mustang both sitting at my house right now. I'll have to drop the big one in and see how it fits.

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Post #44 by vssman » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:14 pm

When you fit the mustang tank look closely at the position of the filler opening and angle.
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Post #45 by CoupeBoy » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:04 pm

I chickened out and went with t 'off the shelf' option from Amazon.
F28B -- 16 gallon replacement tank
FG86A -- fuel sending unit
Total cost including (free) shipping is about a buck and a half

and to remedy one of the other issues that I've been told I have, but have not witnessed yet, I also ordered a top end gasket set (heads/exhaust/intake/valve cover/oil pan/front-rear seals)
I'm thinking that I will install the Offenhauser 360 intake and apply some new paint to whichever top end parts I can reach easily to spruce it up a bit.

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Post #46 by CoupeBoy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:28 pm

Still waiting for the fuel tank to be delivered, tracking claims it will be here tomorrow.
I found what appears to be a fairly decent fender, a little rust in the bottom rear corner.
I am going to have to see what other parts are interesting on that 4dr wagon, it was pretty rusty and already missing a bunch of parts.
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I put insurance on it last week, once I transfer the title into my name, it will be legal.

I have a collection of new light bulbs, headlight, front marker, tail, and dash. Also a new brake light switch and a flasher, all waiting to be installed.
Once I install them, and reconnect the bumper, I'll be good to to go.

I put soap in water last night and washed it for the first time.
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It was dirty.
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Grit, grime, and mud...
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Looking better.
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Soon, I will attach the bumper and later, I'll polish the front end shiny parts.
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My wife, being the more creative one of us, snapped and instagram touched up a few pics.
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Post #47 by bubba22349 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:47 pm

:shock: Wow quite a transformation :nod:
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: 1963.5 Falcon Convertible Build

Post #48 by CoupeBoy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:19 pm

Soap, water, and elbow grease. It is going to take a few more scrubs before the dirt is completely gone.
I still haven't washed the windows yet.
I think there are only a few things the interior would need to be presentable, front seat covers, matching door panels, new carpet, and a convertible boot cover.

The biggest problem is that I don't know which color to go with, and *if* I want it to look original, or if I should take it to a local upholstery shop.

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Re: 1963.5 Falcon Convertible Build

Post #49 by bubba22349 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:35 pm

There are some really nice original type upholstery kits some are priced reasonably there is also good coverage on the convertibles tops too. I don't know what it would cost at the locale upholstery shops now but it used to be a little cheaper and as far as the seats they usally can do a good match of originals. I got my eye on a 62 or 63 Tudor Falcon wagon if I can somehow get the extra money togeather that he's asking before it gets sold i am going for it. My plan would be a mix of the original look in paint and upholstery (but not nessisarly in the cars original built colors). I would be going Viking Blue paint / with Light Blue interior, swap to set of front Bucket seats in place of the bench, plus some 1963 Sprint items too. Of corse with all the updated mechanicals maybe even a set of the American Torque Thrust mags and tires in 15's to 16's too. I guess it would more like a Restomod or the Sprint wagon Ford never made, but that's only if everything goes well so it can even happen. Good luck :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: 1963.5 Falcon Convertible Build

Post #50 by CoupeBoy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:13 pm

Most of the interior kits I've seen (covers only) are about $550, whether you buy them separate or together.

example
1963 63 Falcon Futura Bucket Seat Upholstery
Front only are $335
Rear is $239
Or both for $509

I'm still going to have to find new cushions.
When I bought new ones for my '68 Mustang they were $50/per seat.

Carpet from eBay $161 in black, free shipping.
Carpet Kit For 1963-1965 Ford Falcon Convertible 4 Speed

Baseline numbers for when I actually get work done.

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