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ignition problems

Post #1 by pro94 » Sun May 18, 2014 1:20 pm

So I went to crank my 60 falcon yesterday and it would not crank. Which is really weird cause in 10 years it has never not cranked up on the first try much less after 2 hours of trying to crank it. It will hit and try to crank then when u let off the switch it dies. Here is the weird part with the switch still in the run position from trying to crank it when u turn the switch to the off position the engine will kick back. So I put a new ignition switch in it about an hour ago and it is still doing it. Wtf? :bang: Engine is a 200 with a duraspark 1 dist and a accel 5.0 mustang coil
1994 ranger, 5.0, c4, 8.20 @ 80.64 mph 1/8th
1987 mustang lx, 5.0, aod, track whore
1960' falcon, 79' 200 I6, C4 shift kit, 3.90 gears, 11.81 @ 57.78, 2.58 60 ft, in the 1/8
2004 mustang, v6 auto, pony package, x pipe and dual exhaust, k&n, comp orange

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Re: ignition problems

Post #2 by CoupeBoy » Mon May 19, 2014 10:03 am

I'd have somebody else crank it (or use a remote starter) and test some voltages.

You didn't say which ignition module you are running.

I have an 57 Farmall 400 that acts very similar when the battery starts getting dead.

When I first got it, the owner gave me the startup procedure..
Crank while counting to 4 with the choke out, when you release the key, the tractor will start.

And the procedure worked.. almost every time.

With a good charged up battery, it starts while cranking :rolflmao:, I still need to convert that thing to negative ground and an alternator instead of a generator :bang:
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Re: ignition problems

Post #3 by bubba22349 » Mon May 19, 2014 11:52 am

X2 check your Battery voltage is at full charge and clean all your Pos. & Neg. connections make sure that you have or add some grounds if you don't have enough. The minimum for starting and ignition circuit is Batt. neg. to engine block and a ground from the block back to good spot on the chassis, more grounds will help your other circuits like charging and lighting too. Good luck :nod:
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Re: ignition problems

Post #4 by ludwig » Mon May 19, 2014 12:18 pm

Make sure all the grounds that you do have are metal to metal. Use emery paper and buff the contacts. Sometimes corrosion will build up between the contacts and it becomes an insulator. And yes to all the other stuff, including more grounds.
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Re: ignition problems

Post #5 by CoupeBoy » Mon May 19, 2014 12:28 pm

darnit guys, I'll never catch you in the number of sheer posts if you keep reposting on my posts.

These guys are well grounded, heed thine advice.

The only difference between them and me, is that I focus on the positive, they focus on the negative! :rolflmao:
1968 Mustang Daily Driver Rebuild (on hold for the Season 3/1/2015)
1963.5 Falcon Convertible Build (just getting started 3/15/2015)
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Re: ignition problems

Post #6 by bubba22349 » Mon May 19, 2014 12:31 pm

:rolflmao: LOL that's me always being negative just ask my wife!
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #7 by ludwig » Mon May 19, 2014 3:20 pm

… and the TRUTH is somewhere in between.
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Re: ignition problems

Post #8 by pro94 » Mon May 19, 2014 9:13 pm

OK Im not getting any spark now. Ignition box is getting power during crank cycle and coil in the run position. I tried another coil and no spark. So its either the pickup or the duraspark box. I think.
1994 ranger, 5.0, c4, 8.20 @ 80.64 mph 1/8th

1987 mustang lx, 5.0, aod, track whore

1960' falcon, 79' 200 I6, C4 shift kit, 3.90 gears, 11.81 @ 57.78, 2.58 60 ft, in the 1/8

2004 mustang, v6 auto, pony package, x pipe and dual exhaust, k&n, comp orange

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Re: ignition problems

Post #9 by bubba22349 » Tue May 20, 2014 1:46 am

If its not a good quality box i.e. a Ford or NAPA for example then it's likely the box
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: ignition problems

Post #10 by pro94 » Tue May 20, 2014 7:06 pm

It is a Napa box. And dist. But its been on there for 10 years and hasn't given any problems until now. Guess it was just its time.
1994 ranger, 5.0, c4, 8.20 @ 80.64 mph 1/8th

1987 mustang lx, 5.0, aod, track whore

1960' falcon, 79' 200 I6, C4 shift kit, 3.90 gears, 11.81 @ 57.78, 2.58 60 ft, in the 1/8

2004 mustang, v6 auto, pony package, x pipe and dual exhaust, k&n, comp orange

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Re: ignition problems

Post #11 by bubba22349 » Tue May 20, 2014 7:50 pm

The boxes will usually give some warning when they are about to go out though for sure they can go out without one. I always carried a good spare on my service truck for testing use. Weirdest one was on my 77 Maverick low mile (22,000) all original was winter 1999 drove it the night before and was running great, next morning got in it to go for a job interview and it would not start. :bang:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: ignition problems

Post #12 by pro94 » Mon May 26, 2014 7:45 pm

Yea that's kinda what happened to me I cranked it up and it ran for about 20 seconds and I shut it off cause I wanted to adjust the choke. And when I went to crank it back up that was it. no spark
1994 ranger, 5.0, c4, 8.20 @ 80.64 mph 1/8th

1987 mustang lx, 5.0, aod, track whore

1960' falcon, 79' 200 I6, C4 shift kit, 3.90 gears, 11.81 @ 57.78, 2.58 60 ft, in the 1/8

2004 mustang, v6 auto, pony package, x pipe and dual exhaust, k&n, comp orange

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