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1980-83 head on 1966???

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1980-83 head on 1966???

Post #1 by davishoneydo » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:50 am

Well where do I start. I'm now into the motor portion of a 66 mustang (3.3 200) that I am restoring for my daughter. Not going all original/show because it will be a driver and I can't afford a show car. The car has been running but seemed real sluggish. I noticed two milled spacers below the original spacer on the carburetor. Figured guy I bought if from was maybe going to put a scoop on and did it for height. Removed the two extra spacers and found intake hole is larger than original spacer. The head apparently is from a 1980-83 3.3 200(Stamped EOBE-6090-BB). The intake hole on this head is 1.76". What do I do here? Do I get a 1980-83 carburetor for this head for my 66 mustang? Stay with the 1100 carb I have now with the funky spacers? If I get a carb for 80-83 3.3 is linkage going to be a nightmare? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 1980-83 head on 1966???

Post #2 by bubba22349 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:17 pm

:beer: congrats those heads are the very best log head to use for improved performance! They have the largest intake valves, the largest log, factory flame hardened valve seats to cope with todays unleaded fuels, and as you stated the better 1 3/4 inch carb opening on the log.

Now on to your question If you want to stay with the orginal carb and the old Load O Matic Distributor, you should be able to to use a single plate (the orginal carb adapter plate since you have it). Or else make or buy one adapter to fit by sloting the mounting holes to fit the current heads bolt pateren and with the top spaced to mount the 1100 Autolite carb.

Better still though for a daily driver is to ditch the old Load O Matic Distribitor and go with the later DuraSpark II electronic distribitor, pictures would help in IDing the current distribitor. This is an easy swap using all factory Ford parts, that gives faster starting better Economy and Performace, plus much longer lasting tune ups. Since you already have the better larger 1 3/4 inch carb opening with that later model 3.3 head the doors are wide open to going with the better newer carb's too. Along with the DS II system is the need to go to a later 1V carb. These range from a 1969 250 Mustang (also the last of the Autolite carb's) or severial others newer carb's such as the Carter YF etc. in any case these newer carb's will also give you better performance too. To slove the carb linkage problem many go with the later cable throdle linkage that was used in the 1970's up Fords or even an aftermarket one. Let us know what you think.

A good resource on modding your Ford Six is "The Ford Falcon Six Cylinder Performance Handbook" (see below link for one source of this book plus many other new six parts too) the book is loaded with great info on these small Ford Six'es. This book was originally written by two of this sites knowledgeable members, good luck on the Mustang build. :thumbup: :nod: Edited

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Post #3 by davishoneydo » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:24 pm

Thanks for the info. This might not be as bad as I thought it was going to be. I've ordered the 1969 Autoline carb for 4.1L 250 (model C844). I'm searching for the DuraSpark II electronic distributor and not having any luck. Do I search for 200 or 250 engine for the Duraspark?

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Post #4 by bubba22349 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:59 pm

I think both the 200 3.3 / 250 4.1 will use the same Distribitor (the DuraSpark II ignistion systems were used in all the small six'es from 1976 to end of their production in 1983). But to make it easy hunt for a 200 / 3.3 like a 1978 Fairmont or 1979 to 1982 Ford Mustang 3.3. Also one our site members recurves these DS II distribors (see below link) for one of his adds. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:

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A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #5 by davishoneydo » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:07 pm

I might actually get this thing going faster than 60MPH since receiving all the good info I'm getting. I've ordered the 69 carb and have contacted Wsa111 about the DSII distributor. Thanks for all the help. I will keep you posted on how it turns out.

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Post #6 by bubba22349 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:29 pm

Your are very welcome! That’s great to hear that your getting everything sorted out quickly. While you waiting on your parts you might warm up the engine good and do a compression test to access it’s over all condition. Good luck and I will be interested to hear how you like those mods.
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #7 by bmbm40 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:10 pm

1966 Mustang is a great one to have and your daughter is very fortunate to have that for transportation. You are on the exact right path with the Autolite and DSII from wsa in my opinion. Good luck.
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NEXT- direct mount 1.08 on D8 head, power brakes, rear limited slip, 3G, electric fan, electric upgrades, custom curved DSII, header, 31" tires

New guy? Get the Falcon Performance Handbook and Ford six high performance parts from https://vintageinlines.com

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Re: 1980-83 head on 1966???

Post #8 by B RON CO » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:18 am

Hi, don't assume the distributor is the original Load-o-matic. Over time many parts have been mis-matched. Many guys find a distributor upgrade really helps performance and reliability. If you have the later 1960s Ford modern style distributor you can change it or upgrade it with a Pertronix ignition. Identify the distributor and then decide what to do with the ignition system. Get the Ford Falcon Performance Handbook to get the most out of your Ford 6. Good luck
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