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Post #1 by CNC-Dude » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:46 pm

Just curious if there would be any interest in a newly designed dual carb intake and possibly other performance goodies for the Flathead 226 and 254 engines? The reason I ask is because I have a guy on another forum that is serious for me to design and make patterns to cast a new dual carb intake, and is sending me a stock intake to pull dimensions from to make one. He was also thinking about a finned aluminum head down the road and finned side covers as well. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Post #2 by 58custom223 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:33 pm

I've no skin in this game, but am interested to see how it progresses. What I do have is both Fenton 2x1 intake manifold and split exhaust manifold for the 215/223/262 inline 6. I know a lot of folks are looking for them but there has been no production for a loooooong time.

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Post #3 by Shoeboxed » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:46 pm

I'm all in if the price is reasonable

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Post #4 by CNC-Dude » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:20 pm

There just has been too many vintage engines that have fallen off the radar but are still worthy of someone taking the time to make performance parts back for them.
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Post #5 by bubba22349 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:35 pm

Been thinking about a 226 or 254 for awhile too think they have so much potential. It would really be great engine in one of the early ShoeBox Fords & Merc's or even an old F1 personally would like it to be a 1949 but there’s lots of others that it could be a great engine in too. :thumbup:
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Post #6 by CNC-Dude » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:05 pm

Shoeboxed wrote:I'm all in if the price is reasonable


I think I can keep the cost down pretty modestly since I am keeping all aspects of the design, casting and machining all in-house.
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Post #7 by unibody madness » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:27 pm

Reasonable cost for dual exhaust on a 223 would be awesome. Patriots do not fit under the 60s truck cross members, and Clifford performance wants more than some trucks are worth. reproducing something similar to the old fenton headers would sell well from what I have read.

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Post #8 by Shoeboxed » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:09 pm

Have you looked into dual exhaust also? By reasonable I'd like to be 250-300$ range.

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Post #9 by CNC-Dude » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:58 pm

Yes, I have looked at doing some cast iron dual headers similar to what Tom Langdon makes for the Chevy inlines and other engines. I think I can be able to fall into the $250-$300 range for the intake manifold. Thanks for the interest!
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Post #10 by 58custom223 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:48 pm

There seems to be a fair amount of interest for the old Fenton 2x1 intake and split exhaust manifold for the 215/223/262. I could loan mine should you be interested in copying.
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Post #11 by gassercoupe » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:28 pm

That would be one great looking engine.

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Post #12 by 58custom223 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:52 pm

I'm getting the 58 ready for a car show in mid-February and will have the intake and exhaust mounted. Rebuilding a couple of glass-bowl 1904s now. Dual exhausts already in place. No judging for me at the show, but a "club display".
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Post #13 by CNC-Dude » Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:02 pm

I may hit you up to borrow it. I had a guy going to donate a stock intake but he hasn't shipped it to me yet. It was supposed to go out before the Christmas holidays, unless someone else has a stock you they would like to offer.
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Post #14 by 58custom223 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:16 pm

If it doesn't come through, I have access to both intake and exhaust in stock form for the 215/223.
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Post #15 by fordriving » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:17 pm

CNC-Dude wrote:Just curious if there would be any interest in a newly designed dual carb intake and possibly other performance goodies for the Flathead 226 and 254 engines? The reason I ask is because I have a guy on another forum that is serious for me to design and make patterns to cast a new dual carb intake, and is sending me a stock intake to pull dimensions from to make one. He was also thinking about a finned aluminum head down the road and finned side covers as well. Any thoughts? Thanks.


we would be interested in both the intake and the dual exhaust! How far have you gotten on the design / fabrication? do you have a price yet?
Hope it works out, thanks...John :thumbup:

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Post #16 by CNC-Dude » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:26 pm

Hi John, its still only on the drawing board because the original person that was sending me an intake to pull dimensions from never followed through with his end of the bargain. So I am needing a stock intake and now since a dual exhaust header has come into the mix, one of those also so I can move forward.
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Post #17 by fordriving » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:03 am

CNC-Dude wrote:Hi John, its still only on the drawing board because the original person that was sending me an intake to pull dimensions from never followed through with his end of the bargain. So I am needing a stock intake and now since a dual exhaust header has come into the mix, one of those also so I can move forward.


I have a Ford Inline six 226 cu in sitting on an engine stand. I believe it is from a truck. My reason is, the exhaust header connection is on the fan side of the carburetor. I also have a 49 Ford coupe with the engine in my car with the exhaust header connection on the firewall side of the carburetor. When we talk about making dual exhaust out of stock parts, we split the two manifolds and "glue" them back together...we now have dual exhaust! I have the exhaust manifold and the intake manifold, also the single barrel carb for the truck. The carb is the same for both the truck and the car, except for the model number and a different top plate as I recall...would have to go to the cold garage to look. Same internal parts for both. I have looked at the concept of splitting the two exhaust but, the truck outlet seems very close to the top control arms...not sure if anyone has done this for a car installation? we are located in Hendersonville, NC 28739. would the two manifolds help you out in your design? cant give you the one on the car...its running at this time! I would loan out the two from the truck, they are off the engine on the shelf. keep in touch. John

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Post #18 by CNC-Dude » Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:50 pm

John, i'm not entirely sure what the differences may be between the 223 and the 226. If they have a 100% interchange potential, then yes, I can use the intake and exhaust manifold you have for dimensioning purposes.
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Post #19 by bubba22349 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:47 pm

:hmmm: I Dont think there would be much of anything interchangeable between the Ford 226 (G & H series) or 254 (M series) Flathead sixes and the Ford 215, 223, 262 OHV sixes. Maybe the Generator :nod:
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Post #20 by CNC-Dude » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:56 pm

I see a lot of people include them in the same description many times and was wondering if it was a typo or if they really had any similarities.
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Post #21 by bubba22349 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:12 pm

:thumbup: Yes I seen that in the post too then it kind of went off the rails :shock: with the OHV 223's being mentioned. I am guessing that some of the posters where maybe confusing the two different engine family's because the Cu. In. sizes are so close. :) I took it that in your orginal post you were only talking only about making some New Intakes and maybe the Heads for those Flathead sixes. But there is also a very good demand for Hot Rod parts for the Ford 215, 223, 262 OHV's too. Good luck :nod:
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Post #22 by fordriving » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:19 pm

CNC-Dude wrote:John, i'm not entirely sure what the differences may be between the 223 and the 226. If they have a 100% interchange potential, then yes, I can use the intake and exhaust manifold you have for dimensioning purposes.



The intake and the exhaust I have are from an TRUCK - INLINE FLATHEAD SIX CYLINDER - 226 CU IN!

where are you located ?

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Post #23 by 58custom223 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:32 pm

Sorry about that, it was probably me. Flathead 6 is very different from the inline 6.

If there is interest in recasting the 2x1 Fenton intake and/or Fenton split exhaust manifold for the inline 6 (215, 223, or 262) shoot me a PM.

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Post #24 by CNC-Dude » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:08 pm

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CNC-Dude wrote:John, i'm not entirely sure what the differences may be between the 223 and the 226. If they have a 100% interchange potential, then yes, I can use the intake and exhaust manifold you have for dimensioning purposes.



The intake and the exhaust I have are from an TRUCK - INLINE FLATHEAD SIX CYLINDER - 226 CU IN!

where are you located ?

In my mind i'm thinking Flathead, but yeah the cubic inch is really close to one another and i'm sure others mix the up unintentionally. PM sent John.
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Post #25 by CNC-Dude » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:52 pm

I have followed up on those offers to provide an intake for dimensioning purposes to create a new multi-carb intake for the Flathead 6 engine, but so far no one has come through. So unless someone can provide one, i'm shutting the door on this project and moving on to something else.
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Post #26 by critchdizzle » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:40 pm

I have a stock '50 car manifold, is that what you need? Or do you need an aftermarket one?

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Post #27 by CNC-Dude » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:05 pm

A stock intake is just fine. This is for the Flathead 6 engine correct?
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Post #28 by critchdizzle » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:21 pm

Yes, a 226ci flathead six in a 1950 Ford sedan.

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Post #29 by CNC-Dude » Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:23 pm

Ok, as per the forum rules, I think you'll need to make at least 5 posts before you can send/receive personal messages. Then we can exchange info. Thanks
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Post #30 by bubba22349 » Fri May 06, 2016 7:19 pm

:beer: looks like " critchdizzel " has his 5 posts now!
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #31 by CNC-Dude » Sun May 08, 2016 10:07 pm

It looked promising, he pm'd me and I responded and now only silence. :bang:
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Post #32 by CNC-Dude » Sat May 14, 2016 4:19 pm

Well, again after re-opening the door to reach out and accept an offer for assistance in this project, once again it seems to be closing again. Third time is charm and final offer then moving on if no one comes thru.
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Post #33 by 58custom223 » Tue May 31, 2016 11:24 pm

PM me and I cand send you a stock intake and exhaust manifold. Just picked up a 226H.
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Post #34 by mojojojo78 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:47 pm

I just picked up a 48 226 Flathead with the plan of putting it into my 41 Tudor. I would be very interested in both the intake and exhaust manifolds.
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Post #35 by CNC-Dude » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:30 pm

Sounds good! I'll need a guinea pig to test out the parts for me for sure. :thumbup:
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Post #36 by Sbrock48 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:37 am

What is the out come of a dual intake on the 226 H

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Post #37 by CNC-Dude » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:24 pm

Look back at post #33. He was supposed to send me an intake back in May and fell out the grid like all the others that said they would send me one. So I guess the plan is off again. :bang:
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Post #38 by 58custom223 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:27 pm

Actually, bad on me for not following up. Lost track of things shortly after we last exchanged emails ... moved then had a d**n heart attack. All is well now. I still have your shipping address and will send both intake and exhaust for the 228/256 project tomorrow. Dual carb intake would be good to have as well.

Good to be back! :party: :thumbup:
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Post #39 by CNC-Dude » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:36 pm

Glad you are back in better health. No rush, but at your convenience we can move forward with this project if you're up to it. :thumbup:
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Post #40 by Splash440 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:44 pm

Glad to hear the project is back on. If any issues come up, I recently acquired a 51 F1 with a 226 H and would be willing to let you use it for prototyping.
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Post #41 by critchdizzle » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:26 pm

CNC Dude, just sent you a PM. I apologize for falling off the face of the earth, but I haven't been able to get the manifold off just yet. Still interested in sending it if someone else hasn't beat me to it.

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Post #42 by Arthur138 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:14 pm

I would be more interested in a 3 x 1 intake for a 226 Ford,as well as a set of cast iron headers for a 226 in a 51 Ford car. The 3 x 1 intake is a MUCH better balanced intake for a inline 6 than a 2 x 1. Easier to turn,makes more power,and even gets better gas mileage.

Plus,from a manufacturer/retailer POV,it will sell a LOT quicker because 3 x 1 intakes for flat 6 Fords are practically impossible to find,but there are some 2 x 1 intakes floating around in the used market.

In either case I would be interested in a a cast iron dual exhaust setup where the exhaust is NOT bolted to the intake. You could maybe consider running a tube through it for water heat like the old Edmunds intakes for those who live on cold climates.

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Post #43 by 709karl » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:16 am

I'd probably have interest in an intake or splits...please keep on track. Karl

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Post #44 by CNC-Dude » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:05 pm

Well, again after over year of waiting for those who have shown an interest in helping bring this to fruition have fallen threw and not sending any core pieces I needed to begin the patternmaking process, I am once again closing the door on this offer.
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