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300 in a s-10

Post #1 by john-dickjr » Wed May 27, 2009 4:02 pm

any one ever put a 300 in a chevy s10
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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #2 by shmoozo » Thu May 28, 2009 4:34 am

john-dickjr wrote:any one ever put a 300 in a chevy s10


My memory of the S-10s was that they were built for V6 engines, initially a 60 degree 2.8 liter V6 and later 90 degree 4.3 liter v6 engine. The 4.3 was essentially a small block Chevy V8 with the front two cylinder lopped off, and as it happened there was just about enough room between the firewall and the radiator for a small block Chevy V8. I doubt anything much longer (like a Ford 300 inline 6) would fit in there without putting a huge recess into the firewall and goodness knows what other major mods to the crossmembers, inner fender wells, transmission tunnel, etc. to get the thing to fit.

In other words I suspect you'd be butchering the truck up pretty badly. In the end you've have a truck that would probably have a lower resale value than when you started and you would have done a heck of a lot of work and spent significant money to get there.

My advice? If you have an old S-10 and you are looking to give it more power there are several better options.

One would be to hop up the engine that is in it. There are speed parts available for both V6s. Edelbrock, for example, makes performance intake manifolds for both the 2.8 and the 3.4 liter engines. There are cams, high-flow heads, headers, and all that sort of thing, too.

Of you can do an engine swap.

If it has the 2.8 liter V6, you can swap in a High Output 3.4 liter V6 that is available as crate engine for exactly this purpose from GM performance parts or find a late 90's V6 Camaro (which used an EFI version of the same engine) and use the engine (or at least the long block) out of that. The 3.4 is a bored and stroked version of the 2.8 so it drops in fairly easily.

If it has the 4.3 liter V6, get one of the kits to swap in a small block Chevy V8 and pick up the V8 at a local auto recycler (junkyard) and drop that in, perhaps after a bit of a rebuild.

Both of those are relatively straightforward swaps using mostly off-the-shelf parts. They're well documented, too, because a lot of other guys have already done them. Heck, you can even buy special headers to use with the V8 in an S-10 swap. That's how common the swap is.

And doing that you'll end up with a truck that is worth more than when you started and it won't be all hacked up and butchered.

But, hey, some guys do like to go their own way and you'd certainly have a one-of-a-kind truck if you shoehorned a Ford 300 in there. I wouldn't, but I don't doubt that the result could be an interesting truck.

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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #3 by 86ford » Thu May 28, 2009 9:01 am

check this out a ranger with a big six

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54678

personaly for an S-10 i would use a 250 chevy insted.
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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #4 by john-dickjr » Thu May 28, 2009 9:13 am

shmoozo wrote:
john-dickjr wrote:any one ever put a 300 in a chevy s10


My memory of the S-10s was that they were built for V6 engines, initially a 60 degree 2.8 liter V6 and later 90 degree 4.3 liter v6 engine. The 4.3 was essentially a small block Chevy V8 with the front two cylinder lopped off, and as it happened there was just about enough room between the firewall and the radiator for a small block Chevy V8. I doubt anything much longer (like a Ford 300 inline 6) would fit in there without putting a huge recess into the firewall and goodness knows what other major mods to the crossmembers, inner fender wells, transmission tunnel, etc. to get the thing to fit.

In other words I suspect you'd be butchering the truck up pretty badly. In the end you've have a truck that would probably have a lower resale value than when you started and you would have done a heck of a lot of work and spent significant money to get there.

My advice? If you have an old S-10 and you are looking to give it more power there are several better options.

One would be to hop up the engine that is in it. There are speed parts available for both V6s. Edelbrock, for example, makes performance intake manifolds for both the 2.8 and the 3.4 liter engines. There are cams, high-flow heads, headers, and all that sort of thing, too.

Of you can do an engine swap.

If it has the 2.8 liter V6, you can swap in a High Output 3.4 liter V6 that is available as crate engine for exactly this purpose from GM performance parts or find a late 90's V6 Camaro (which used an EFI version of the same engine) and use the engine (or at least the long block) out of that. The 3.4 is a bored and stroked version of the 2.8 so it drops in fairly easily.

If it has the 4.3 liter V6, get one of the kits to swap in a small block Chevy V8 and pick up the V8 at a local auto recycler (junkyard) and drop that in, perhaps after a bit of a rebuild.

Both of those are relatively straightforward swaps using mostly off-the-shelf parts. They're well documented, too, because a lot of other guys have already done them. Heck, you can even buy special headers to use with the V8 in an S-10 swap. That's how common the swap is.

And doing that you'll end up with a truck that is worth more than when you started and it won't be all hacked up and butchered.

But, hey, some guys do like to go their own way and you'd certainly have a one-of-a-kind truck if you shoehorned a Ford 300 in there. I wouldn't, but I don't doubt that the result could be an interesting truck.

:)

no i dont have a s10, i was just thinking it would be different, back in my chevy days i had a s10 with a 427 BBC in it, but i was thinking if i remember right that the s10 truck has more room then the rangers and i see them with 300 motors,
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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #5 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu May 28, 2009 9:35 am

john-dickjr wrote: i was just thinking it would be different,


That's the craziest idea I've heard since a friend told me he wanted to put a flathead Ford V-8 in his '63 Corvette.

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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #6 by 80broncoman » Fri May 29, 2009 10:57 am

Yes please stick a 300 in a S-10 and don't froget to put a nice Ford oval over the bowtie on the grill. :nod:

This will be a start to making up for the few stangs I've seen years ago with
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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #7 by American Thunder » Fri May 29, 2009 5:26 pm

It would be the best running S-10 ever built! :D
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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #8 by Stealth Bummer » Fri May 29, 2009 7:04 pm

I put a 300 in an S10. That's how I hauled it home for my project :wink:
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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #9 by rikard » Sun May 31, 2009 1:13 am

I have always liked the early 50s Chevy pick ups for looks and a EFI 300 or Jeep 4.0 would be a different engine swap. I have been a Chevy guy for most of my life but I agree that there are way too many SBC swaps in Fords and Mopars. I've had two Ford pick ups with the 300 (94+95) and they have been extremely dependable and excellent work trucks. The two AMC sixes (258 2v + 4.0 EFI) I owned were also very good. I think the inline sixes just fit an older style truck better. Many years ago I helped a friend stuff a V12 Lincoln in his 54 Ford Pick up. That was different!
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Re: 300 in a s-10

Post #10 by wheels_adam » Sun May 31, 2009 8:55 am

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums ... hp?t=56497

Check that out. If a 6bt Cummins can be made to fit I fully believe you can make a 300 slide right in.

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