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Post #1 by F-250 Restorer » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:19 am

I wanted to let everyone know that the Clifford Performance valve cover for the 300/240 is back. $259 plus postage will get you one from Clifford Performance. They're good for at least a 10 hp gain in stories.

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Post #2 by BIG 6 farmer » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:37 am

@ that price, im guessin it will add atleast 15 HP. But if it leaks, subtract 20 :rolflmao: :rolflmao:
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Post #3 by F-250 Restorer » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:37 pm

I love my Cliff. v. cover, but I do have one issue with it: The only place I can find a gasket to fit is through Clifford Performance, and it is expensive with postage on top. So, I order a neoprene gasket and whittle it down to fit.

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Post #4 by STEVEN. » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:21 pm

I've got one of those for a 225-/6,and one for a Chevy Six. I don't see where your extra 10 HP would come from considering those @#*& things weigh so much(alone & without the Oil Cap the bare Cover weighs 3-1/2 pounds. A Guy in work weighed one of His on a digital Scale once...) :o ! Still,it's good to know they're being produced again. Maybe before the year's out I'll get one for one of my big Sixes. Still,the origional Mickey-Thomson big Six Covers,the origional Cal-Custom & the ultra rare Grant Industries Covers are the Holy Grail(s) of Ford Six Covers. I've got a bunch of 'em sitting here :mrgreen: :wink: . ~OO6.

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Post #5 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:45 pm

STEVEN. wrote:I've got one of those for a 225-/6,and one for a Chevy Six. I don't see where your extra 10 HP would come from ...


Uhh, that's a joke.



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...the origional Mickey-Thomson big Six Covers,the origional Cal-Custom & the ultra rare Grant Industries Covers are the Holy Grail(s) of Ford Six Covers. I've got a bunch of 'em sitting here :mrgreen: :wink: . ~OO6.


For a big six??? Got pics??? I've never seen any of those.
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Post #6 by STEVEN. » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:12 pm

No pics(of course.. :roll: ..)but,from what People have told me,the RAREST 'Cover(s) of all time are the Pennies(J.C. Penny. Remember them?...)Automotive piece for the Ford 240/300,and the Crankshaft Co.'s 144/200/250 small & 240/300 big Six 'Covers. Made for only 2 years(1967 & '68...),before the Tooling broke....or so say's the oldsters. Another rare on is the Jasper Automotive/Mercrusier Aluminum 'Cover. These 'Covers were 'SOMETIMES' found on 292 Chevy re-build/Crate Motors. With these 'Covers,it was pretty much a luck-of-the-draw kind of thing. VERY FEW had them,while thes rest had stamped(recycled..)Sheetmetal 'Covers. These were nothing more then 'modified' Mercrusier-165(Chevy 250/292...)Aluminum pieces with the famous Jasper Cat/Panther logo cast(these were new 'Covers 'as cast'...)into the middle of the 'Cover. I found two of 'em. One at a Super Chevy Show years ago,while the other came directly from a wrecked Boat I found in Harry's U-Pull-It in upstate P.A.. I was once offered $125 for one of them. ~OO6.

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Post #7 by Fordman75 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:14 pm

I'd like them a lot better if they left there logo off them!! :rolflmao: The last couple of them I've owned, I've had the logos milled off. :lol:

It would be nice if someone would make them with just some fins and a nice thick, flat mounting flange.
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Post #8 by Asa » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:26 pm

Steven, I have a 5MegaPixel camera that I'm going to give to the Salvation Army. Do you want it? I'm tired of you never posting pics of your wheeled jewels.
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Post #9 by F-250 Restorer » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:39 pm

Ha ha, but, like a gold score needing a witness, nothing adds credibility like a photo.

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Post #10 by Asa » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:42 pm

Nothing about credibility, I just want to see these awesome parts
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Post #11 by jack orchard » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:32 am

x2 what Fordman75 said. make 'em without logo and i will buy 'em. until then, the Ford covers are just fine...jack

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Post #12 by teds74ford » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:11 am

x3 on what Fordman said. I like the plain, finned look.

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Post #13 by clintonvillian » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:22 pm

Thats why I think I am going to make my own....modify my stock valve cover by welding on some fins for looks.

This would be something easy to cast and then mill down, wonder why nobody has done it?

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Post #14 by jack orchard » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:57 pm

Keep us (and me) posted with your progress. I, for one am interested. ...jack

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Post #15 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:57 am

clintonvillian wrote:Thats why I think I am going to make my own....modify my stock valve cover by welding on some fins for looks.

This would be something easy to cast and then mill down, wonder why nobody has done it?


Somebody had pics on here a while back who did just that. I thought it looked real good too.
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Post #16 by BIG 6 farmer » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:44 am

Thought about for an old look on a Hot Rod type build. Taking an early 50s IHC Valve cover,(Silver Diamond Engine) cut/fit/weld to Ford lower. OR just use as a fake cover. Have that tall,round top, Has some ribs on it too. Checked it out, Looks very doable. Thought about using Binder Lifter covers over the Ford ones, as fake bolt ons. :cool: :thumbup:
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Post #17 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:06 pm

Then again there's always the option of a DOHC cover cover.
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Post #18 by Asa » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:00 am

THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:Then again there's always the option of a DOHC cover cover.
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Post #19 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:21 pm

Spark plug wells will be added between the cam towers and hold down studs will be placed between the plugs with acorn nuts to retain. A front cover to cover the front cover is also planned.
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Post #20 by 82F100 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:09 pm

A fellow inliner recently bought the patterns for the Precision Engine Service stuff and I believe later on will be making the side covers and Valve covers for the 240/300.I think AzCoupe is also getting the itch to do an all finned cover for the big six 8)
Steven, you wouldn't happen to have a steel Clifford valve cover for the 240/300 in your collection?
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Post #21 by clintonvillian » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:16 am

I hope someone does something with this, and produces a valve cover.

I will donate my CAD skills, and drawings to someone and help do any drafting needed if someone can these off the ground for a reasonable price. I have TONS of parts drawn in CAD for this motor, intake exhaust flanges, block offs etc, that are just waiting for someone to do a production run with a plasma table on..... The intake/exhaust flanges I have designed fit like nothing else out there.

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Post #22 by jack orchard » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:58 am

As long as the discussion is about fabrication, I sure would like to find a 3x2 intake manifold w/progressive linkage that would run 3 small Autolite 2100s. Anyone have an opinion on this idea? I'd like to hear them. Thanks. ...jack

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Post #23 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:11 am

There is already somebody who makes a CNC billet finned aluminum valve cover for the 300.

His name is Mike and he was/is a member of this forum but I lost his contact info. He made a run of finned covers a while back and he made me a special, lightweight version for my drag car with the fins removed for weight reduction shown below. He also made variable timing straight cut spur gears for the cam drive.

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Post #24 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:18 am

jack orchard wrote:As long as the discussion is about fabrication, I sure would like to find a 3x2 intake manifold w/progressive linkage that would run 3 small Autolite 2100s. Anyone have an opinion on this idea? I'd like to hear them. Thanks. ...jack


If I were going to do a progressive 3-2 set up I would use Rochester 2GCs for the following reasons:

They were used in many 3 x 2 GM vehicles (GTO, Corvettes, 409s, etc). No need to re-invent the wheel w/ Autolites. Progressive linkages already exist.

They have a much smaller base / bolt pattern so they look better in multiples.

They are dirt cheap, unless you are trying to buy a "numbers matching" matched set of three.

Maybe you could find acomplete V8 GM set up, re-purpose the carbs and linkage and fuel lines, and re-sell the V8 manifold.


I used Rochester 2GCs on my faux 3 x 2 carb setup on my son's Hot Tub project:

Iron 2V intake painted to look like aluminum: $5

(3) 2GCs at swap meets / flea markets : $5 ea.

Gold carb tint paint $3

Total cost less Speedway air cleaners: $23.

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Post #25 by Fordman75 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:01 pm

THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:There is already somebody who makes a CNC billet finned aluminum valve cover for the 300.

His name is Mike and he was/is a member of this forum but I lost his contact info. He made a run of finned covers a while back and he made me a special, lightweight version for my drag car with the fins removed for weight reduction shown below. He also made variable timing straight cut spur gears for the cam drive.



Do you mean Eric? http://hawesengineering.com/pages/projects.html

I checked with him back in 2011. His billet valvcover was $1150.00! :shock: But that was machined from one huge block of aluminum. So you are talking a huge investment in the material and then many hours of CNC machining. If I had the cash I'd get one. :D He said he was working on a cast version. But I have no idea if he ever got them made.

His lifter covers and fuel pump block off plates are a work of art. I really want to get these for my 300. I hope he's still making them.
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Post #26 by Asa » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:28 pm

Fordman75 wrote:Do you mean Eric? http://hawesengineering.com/pages/projects.html

I checked with him back in 2011. His billet valvcover was $1150.00! :shock: But that was machined from one huge block of aluminum. So you are talking a huge investment in the material and then many hours of CNC machining. If I had the cash I'd get one. :D He said he was working on a cast version. But I have no idea if he ever got them made.

His lifter covers and fuel pump block off plates are a work of art. I really want to get these for my 300. I hope he's still making them.

No, I remember the straight cut gear set.
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Asa wrote:
Fordman75 wrote:Do you mean Eric? http://hawesengineering.com/pages/projects.html

I checked with him back in 2011. His billet valvcover was $1150.00! :shock: But that was machined from one huge block of aluminum. So you are talking a huge investment in the material and then many hours of CNC machining. If I had the cash I'd get one. :D He said he was working on a cast version. But I have no idea if he ever got them made.

His lifter covers and fuel pump block off plates are a work of art. I really want to get these for my 300. I hope he's still making them.

No, I remember the straight cut gear set.
Mikeson? maybe? Sounds right.


I remember those timing gear sets ( I bought a set ) . But I didn't know he did any valve covers or side covers.
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Post #28 by Asa » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:56 pm

I remember someone doing valve covers and side covers, but have no clue who it was. If FTF is sure that the same guy did the straight cut gears then it was Mikeson
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Post #29 by Fordman75 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:14 pm

Don't know.

But I do know Eric at Hawes Engineering does some very nice work. And I plan to get a side cover and fuel pump block off for my 300 from him if he still has any available when I'm ready to get them.

I believe this is one of his side covers on the engine on this Youtube video.

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Post #30 by 82F100 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:11 pm

Eric Hawes makes the side cover and fuel pump block off plate. Mikenson is the one who did the straight cut adjustable gears for the 240/300 aswell as gear drive units for the small six.I don't think he sold all the sets for the big six.I also have a set in the motor for my Pinto.
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Post #31 by clintonvillian » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:37 am

Damn that thing sounds good!

Fordman75 wrote:Don't know.

But I do know Eric at Hawes Engineering does some very nice work. And I plan to get a side cover and fuel pump block off for my 300 from him if he still has any available when I'm ready to get them.

I believe this is one of his side covers on the engine on this Youtube video.

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Post #32 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:19 pm

82F100 wrote:Eric Hawes makes the side cover and fuel pump block off plate. Mikenson is the one who did the straight cut adjustable gears for the 240/300 aswell as gear drive units for the small six.I don't think he sold all the sets for the big six.I also have a set in the motor for my Pinto.


I do think that is correct and my memory was wrong. What this web site needs is a section listing all the vendors who make parts for the Ford sixes, if that wouldn't be stepping on the toes of the folks at Classic Inlines too much.
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Post #33 by 82F100 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:57 pm

FTF, I think we still have that one post in the FAQ section, but probably needs to be updated.I think we should add pics to some of the stuff posted ie. Valve covers intakes, distributors & magnetos oil pans etc..For instance I think there is about 3 versions of the Clifforf intake over the years.Sorry for h-jacking the thread.but FTF has a good point.
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THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:
I do think that is correct and my memory was wrong. What this web site needs is a section listing all the vendors who make parts for the Ford sixes, if that wouldn't be stepping on the toes of the folks at Classic Inlines too much.




Classic Inlines doesn't really have much of anything that I can see for the big 6 ( I think he might offer the DUI distributors ) . So I can't really see posting other vendors of big 6 parts stepping on Mike's toes.


It would be awesome if Mike could get some valve covers made/cast for the big 6's!! :thumbup:
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Post #35 by 82F100 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:02 am

Here's what I found in the FAQ
Q: who makes and sells parts for our engines?
A: just about everyone sells parts for our engines, you should be able to call up just about any big name company and get parts (Summit, Performance Automotive Warehouse, etc.) just because it isn't listed, doesn't mean it isn't sold there, call them up and ask them
as for who makes parts:
Cams
Clifford Performance
Crower
Crane
Comp Cams
Lazer Cams
Accelerated Motion
ultraDyne
Blueracer
Schneider Cams
Iskanderian


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Offenhauser
Clifford Performance
Holman Moody
Edelbrock (Both it and the H-M piece are out of production and fairly rare)
Man-A-Fre (rare 3 2v intake)
Algon (Mechanical fuel injection)
Headers
Clifford Performance
MAC
Dynomax
Pace Setter
Hedman
Hooker
Doug Thorley
for mildly built engines, the EFI manifolds work wonderfully, and are much cheaper

Precision Machine ( Circle track headers) also side covers & Valvecovers
Hawes Engineering (finned side covers & fuelpump block off plates)
Roller Rocker
Crane Roller
Harland Sharp
Comp Cams
Scorpion

OIL Pans
Charlies'
C-line

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DUI
Mallory
Accel
Vertex magneto
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Post #36 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:31 am

That is a good step in the right direction.

Now adding contact information, part descriptions, part numbers and maybe prices (as of xx/xx/xxxx date) would be wonderful.
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You know, you are missing some exhaust ports, and the intake ports are on the wrong side of the head.... :wink:

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CoupeBoy wrote:
THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:Image
You know, you are missing some exhaust ports, and the intake ports are on the wrong side of the head.... :wink:


They just got divorced and moved to the other side of town! :lol:
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You know, you are missing some exhaust ports, and the intake ports are on the wrong side of the head.... :wink:

If I remember right, on the dragster FTF has a crossflow head made out of 351 heads cut and re-welded. I believe it is lacking proper coolant passages though.
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CoupeBoy wrote:
THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:Image
You know, you are missing some exhaust ports, and the intake ports are on the wrong side of the head.... :wink:

If I remember right, on the dragster FTF has a crossflow head made out of 351 heads cut and re-welded. I believe it is lacking proper coolant passages though.


I'm pretty sure Coupeboy was joking.

I didn't know FTF had one of the Boss heads. I thought his were the Ford R&D heads.
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I believe I remember THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER stating that the crossflow head followed him home! :)

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Post #42 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:50 pm

1986F150six wrote:I believe I remember THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER stating that the crossflow head followed him home! :)

not true
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Re: Clifford Performance Valve Cover is back

Post #43 by 1986F150six » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:59 am

THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:
1986F150six wrote:I believe I remember THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER stating that the crossflow head followed him home! :)

not true

I apologize for my inaccurate statement. :oops:

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Re: Clifford Performance Valve Cover is back

Post #44 by clintonvillian » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:01 am

How thick would a side cover have to be if it was just made out of a piece of flat aluminum? would 1/4" do it??? How thick is your FTF? any leaks?

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Re: Clifford Performance Valve Cover is back

Post #45 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:27 pm

About 1/4 with a slick reciever groove about .040 deep to capture the gasket. No leaks whatsoever.
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