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Post #1 by Broncitis » Mon May 13, 2013 12:07 am

Do any head bolts go into the water jacket on 300, thanks.
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Post #2 by BIG 6 farmer » Mon May 13, 2013 3:47 am

I would say, no. But i could be wrong. :hmmm:
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Post #3 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Mon May 13, 2013 12:13 pm

no - but three of the four water pump bolts do
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Post #4 by Broncitis » Mon May 13, 2013 10:17 pm

Thanks, the roller cam had 4 lobes go bad, I believe it is because the cam was reground and never re heat treated, unfortunately I will not be doing business with Schneider cams again, this was a disaster.
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Post #5 by motzingg » Tue May 14, 2013 12:16 pm

pretty easy to check, take it to a machine shop and have them hardness test the lobes. not sure what they are supposed to be, but it seems like most cam manufacturers would rather do you right than have bad PR. getting your own test results, then contacting them would probably go a long way, most people that make performance parts have a lot of 'warranty' claims from idiots that install/tune things wrong.

seems pretty unlikely someone would forget to heat treat a cam...

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Post #6 by 80broncoman » Tue May 14, 2013 9:56 pm

Broncitis wrote:Thanks, the roller cam had 4 lobes go bad, I believe it is because the cam was reground and never re heat treated, unfortunately I will not be doing business with Schneider cams again, this was a disaster.


Heat treating a used/finished cam is very iffy.
They get bent is all kinds of directions when the heat gets to them. so much so that when they are new in processes the bearing journals
are left over size and finished AFTER heat treating.
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Post #7 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Tue May 14, 2013 10:37 pm

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Post #8 by Broncitis » Wed May 15, 2013 2:17 am

Well I took it down to Colfax iron works and tried to have it Rockwell hardness tested, but he wasn't able to do the procedure, so Schneider asked me to send it to them and they looked at it and blamed it on endura x roller lifters from comp cams and said they would weld it up, heat treat it and regrind it, I just hope they know what they are doing and there's more to the story and I'm pretty tired of dealing with them and talking about it. Just a dam mess.
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Post #9 by country fried 6 » Wed May 15, 2013 3:17 pm

so what lifters would they recommend?

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Post #10 by Broncitis » Wed May 15, 2013 11:16 pm

They didn't recommend any lifter, because I'm the one that educated them on why I could not use there lifters, It has to be a forward facing linkbar and the endure x face outward on the link more than others I have found, unless you are sharp enough to know how to separate some of the others and put them back together below the block bosses, I machined the block bosses to just be able to drop the endure x in the holes with very little meat left and had to drill all the way into the water jacket and use studs for the side cover. I hope this makes sense. I think that FTF has done this separation below the bosses, but it is not easy and you better get it right and I'm sure he did.
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