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Post #51 by bubba22349 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:22 am

You right, :bang: I stand corrected wonder what happened they usually show the second part the following week.


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Post #52 by xrwagon » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:19 am

i watched the show on there web site, part one that is, i was quite happy to see it, i even went and did a trick they showed on dead cylinders on my motor. As its got a mild miss and not really running right, i have a lifter noise also (200)
i cant wait for the show, will have to fit in between Sons of Anarchy and Walking Dead.


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Post #53 by nightwatchman59 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:50 am

:bang: I work weird hours on the edge of "civilization"- and unable to view the second episode. A recap or pointer would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, guys.....



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Post #54 by motzingg » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:26 am

the second episode hasn't been shown yet. I cant tell if its getting shown this weekend or not, looks like maybe not.



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Post #55 by stu in wichita » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:15 am

xrwagon wrote: . . . i even went and did a trick they showed on dead cylinders on my motor. As its got a mild miss and not really running right, i have a lifter noise also (200) . . . .


What trick? Not sure what you're referring to. Thanks.

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Post #56 by Soldmy66 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:42 am

I believe he is referring to the spray bottle method of determining which cylinder is not firing.

By spraying water on each primary header tube, you will identify which one is not firing because the header pipe temperature on the non-firing cylinder will be far less than the other tubes, and therefore the water sprayed on it will not vaporize as it does with the others.



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Post #57 by 80broncoman » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:48 am

Soldmy66 wrote:I believe he is referring to the spray bottle method of determining which cylinder is not firing.

By spraying water on each primary header tube, you will identify which one is not firing because the header pipe temperature on the non-firing cylinder will be far less than the other tubes, and therefore the water sprayed on it will not vaporize as it does with the others.


X2 that is exactly right. You will know as soon as the water hits the last pipe.

It works just about as well on cast manifolds too.


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Post #58 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:55 pm

I use the TSSSsssss method:

Saliva on a finger tip. Same principal. Test equipment is always with me.

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Post #59 by CNC-Dude » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:00 pm

Yeah, the spray bottle they used is the "white collar" approach. The FTF method is the good ole "blue collar" approach. :nod:


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Post #60 by motzingg » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:10 am

i think 'white collar' is to use an IR thermometer or one of those handheld thermal cameras. Blue collar is spray bottle, and fingertip is plaid collar/ dirty wife beater.

using snow is the 'fur collar' method. I've used snow before on air cooled motorcycle engines.



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Post #61 by stu in wichita » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:19 pm

I can see how that would identify a dead cylinder, but it wouldn't tell you much about an intermittent miss. I asked because of the mention of a "mild miss" and "not running right." The IR thermometer might indicate such a problem, because it would be few degrees cooler (depending upon how intermittent it is, LOL).

Thanks for the explanation.

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Post #62 by WerbyFord » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:20 pm

80broncoman wrote:I wasn't watching but listenting while i was here at my computer.
Next Week?? I'm gonna look online to see what i can find.

Nothing found yet


WOW I just found this thread. :o
Found Part 1 online, kinda sketchy, those look like older 76cc heads?
So based on what they said Im gonna assume
9,32cr at .030 deck
A 4bbl intake and what else, a 600 Holley (probably a $700 version)
Comp 268H cam at 218-218-110 .456 .456 as they noted
Headers, maybe full length if we are lucky

The WerbyFord Gonkulator says
Torq 331 at 3000
Powr 240 at 4300
I'm kinda glad they didnt run part 2 yet so I could try to predict it.
Then again, lets HOPE they run part 2. :mrgreen:
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Post #63 by Fordman75 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:50 am

It's looks like you might never see part 2 by the way things are going. :rolflmao:

And even if you do, I seriously doubt the compression would be that high with pistons that short. You are talking about a piston that is almost 1/4" shorter then the stock ones.


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Post #64 by motzingg » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:21 am

don't forget they said they were throwing extra $$ into goodies because they saved cash on not needing the machine work...

lets hope they get silly with forced induction... is that too much to ask?



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Post #65 by WerbyFord » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:06 am

Yikes I missed that "240 flattop" #1147 piston.
If so then the Gonkulator says
7.34cr [yawn] and .223 deck [yawn].

Torq 286 at 3000
Powr 210 at 4300

I hope they just goofed and think that piston will give near zero deck, maybe they delayed the show cuz they reordered some pistons that actually fit??? Hope so. Maybe we should contact them and tell em somehow? What a waste of a nice build.



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Post #66 by motzingg » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:28 am

ha ha yeah, 7.3 cr would be good for a blown motor... maybe.

they said they were using the stock rods, and even did a bunch of work to them, but maybe they are using some trick longer rod out of another application.. v8 or something? 240 rods maybe?



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Post #67 by Fordman75 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:30 pm

motzingg wrote:ha ha yeah, 7.3 cr would be good for a blown motor... maybe.

they said they were using the stock rods, and even did a bunch of work to them, but maybe they are using some trick longer rod out of another application.. v8 or something? 240 rods maybe?



Not with cast pistons! :D

Nope not 240 rods. 240 Rods with 240 pistons on a 300 crank is not something that would work to well.


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Post #68 by CNC-Dude » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:40 pm

I used to have a close source that produced a lot of the Powerblock and Spike TV stuff at RTM productions. He said that their target audience is for the most part, totally clueless about tech stuff like this and they don't even know the difference between a camshaft and a crankshaft. So take that for what its worth about what you see on these type of shows.


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Post #69 by Baron Von Ottomatic » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:27 pm

CNC-Dude wrote:I used to have a close source that produced a lot of the Powerblock and Spike TV stuff at RTM productions. He said that their target audience is for the most part, totally clueless about tech stuff like this and they don't even know the difference between a camshaft and a crankshaft. So take that for what its worth about what you see on these type of shows.


Surely you jest? Spike TV is America's home for highbrow entertainment and serious f'n' knowledge.



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Post #70 by CNC-Dude » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:04 pm

Nope, wish I was joking! The average person that watches those shows knows very little about the subject matter of the show, thats why the get the ratings they do. He told me that most shows are still way over most guys knowledge level and they have to "dumb them down" so they aren't just completely lost. Things could have changed now, this was their thinking when it first came on the scene a little over 10 years ago. Just for giggles, do you know what Joe Elmore did before he came to Hot Rod TV? That will sort of give you an idea of the kind of people that host their shows....


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I had to look (from his bio):

For many years, Joe has hosted a Nashville PBS-based show called “Tennessee Crossroads” which is now one of the highest-rated shows of its kind in the country. Crossroads is a travel show that unveils fascinating people and places Joe finds on the two-lane highways of the mid-south. It’s earned several Emmy Awards and countless nominations.

As if that wasn’t enough, Joe also purses his longtime passion for music. Joe played bass in a variety of bands in his earlier years, including Bill Black’s Combo, a group formed by one of Elvis Presley’s first sidemen. He was immersed in the historic music of the “Memphis Sound” during its heyday and backed up some of the legends of rock and R&B.

More recently, Joe staged a clever “comeback” by combining his writing and singing talents with his affinity with the American car culture. The result: a one-of-a-kind CD called “Gearheads”, featuring songs with captivating car connections. He combined old-time favorites like “Mustang Sally” and “Little GTO” with originals he wrote that embrace his personal passion for hot rods.

Keeping in line with Joe’s mission of giving back, a portion of the proceeds from the CD are earmarked for the National Autism Association.

He was born in Paragould, Arkansas, received a Masters Degree in Communications, worked in film production, public relations, and TV news before heading to Nashville to amp up his career. Joe’s endless credit list includes PM Magazine, Opry Backstage on The Nashville Network and numerous TV specials, in addition to songwriting credits.

Joe loves interacting with people. And, at a podium, he can captivate an audience with his amazing experiences, inimitable insights and charming antidotes. Whether it’s talking about hot rods to a group of “car guys” or talking about his many Crossroads adventures to a general audience, he connects with listeners on a level that is genuine, engaging, uplifting and fulfilling.



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Post #72 by CNC-Dude » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:07 pm

Well my point was that while he does have a pretty impressive bio, he had/has zero automotive experience or knowledge prior to coming to RTM. So I guess if they think their viewers don't know the difference between a camshaft or a crankshaft, they might as well get a host that doesn't either. :rolflmao:


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Post #73 by Fordman75 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:36 pm

CNC-Dude wrote:Well my point was that while he does have a pretty impressive bio, he had/has zero automotive experience or knowledge prior to coming to RTM. So I guess if they think their viewers don't know the difference between a camshaft or a crankshaft, they might as well get a host that doesn't either. :rolflmao:


I think it's been quite a while since Joe actually did much of the mechanical work on that show. They have a couple younger guys that do most of the work now. :thumbup:


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Post #74 by stu in wichita » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:10 am

I never thought of hot rodding as a spectator sport, but that's what it has become. Same thing as the typical fan watching Monday night football who hasn't held a pigskin in twenty years (or maybe ever).

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Post #75 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:52 am

stu in wichita wrote:I never thought of hot rodding as a spectator sport, but that's what it has become. Same thing as the typical fan watching Monday night football who hasn't held a pigskin in twenty years (or maybe ever).

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And just like a football game, the Powerblock TV show will have its share of "Monday Morning Quarterbacks" to expound on what should have been done.


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THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote: And just like a football game, the Powerblock TV show will have its share of "Monday Morning Quarterbacks" to expound on what should have been done.


Yup. :lol:



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Post #77 by nightwatchman59 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:22 am

It's my fault. I apologize. When I watch the Redskins they lose. When I watch pwerblock, I'm left hangin'.... hope my stalking this site doesn't crash it.... my truck runs WAY better since I found this place!!!!! :thumbup:



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Post #78 by motzingg » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:06 pm

Haha yeah... well you know ...the ad revenue drives programming, and smart people generally dont buy things just because they saw an add for it.

same reason the folks on shows like 'american chopper' spend more time yelling at each other, than actually doing something. idiots like to watch people yell at each other, and idiots buy stuff just because they see an ad for it.

same reason speed (which had huge viewership) went to a 'multi sport' format featuring college football and NASCAR... even though tons of people watch MotoGP... those people don't go out and buy motorcycle jackets just because they saw an add for them.


we're just lucky to have anything close to a show like 'powerblock' to watch.



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Post #79 by WerbyFord » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:09 pm

Just a bump, does anybody know when the next episode (the dyno?) will be on or was on? :?



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Post #80 by Fordman75 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:31 pm

Nope. :(


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Post #81 by 69halfcab » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:30 am

I have a 1969 halfcab with a 200. I want to swap to a 250 can I keep my transmission. any help appreciated thanks



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Post #82 by Fordman75 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:11 pm

69halfcab wrote:I have a 1969 halfcab with a 200. I want to swap to a 250 can I keep my transmission. any help appreciated thanks

You'd have better luck posting your question in the small 6 forum.


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Post #83 by Fordman75 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:26 pm

It looks like the second show of this build is going to be on this Sunday! :thumbup: And the third part the following week.


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Post #84 by jack orchard » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:15 pm

Watched the second show today @ 4:30 PM EST. They did block and head machining on another 300. Assembly will be the next week.



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Post #85 by Fordman75 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:34 pm

I don't have NBC sports or CBS sports. So I have to wait for them to show it on Spike. :? :roll:


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Post #86 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:24 am

I sure they did some more (off camera) head work.


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Post #87 by chessterd5 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:43 pm

I don't have cable. Is there anyway someone could post a link or tell me where to go to watch the episodes on my computer? thanks.



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A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #89 by Fordman75 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:14 pm

bubba22349 wrote:Here you go link to 300 build :thumbup:

http://www.powerblocktv.com/episodes/HP ... inline-six


That's the old link, no more Powerblock. Now it's Powernation and the show is Engine Power. :roll: Here's the new links. The videos won't be posted for a week or two though. :(

http://powernationtv.com/shows/engine-power

http://powernationtv.com/episode/EP2014 ... -skool-six

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Post #90 by motzingg » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:04 pm

SUNDAY
SUNDAY
SUNDAY

darn, bummed that i missed it... have to wait for them to put it online



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Post #91 by blmhawkeye » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:29 am

They've posted the equipment theyre using but not intake manifold....



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Post #92 by Fordman75 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:38 am

blmhawkeye wrote:They've posted the equipment theyre using but not intake manifold....


The way the carb was mounted in the video clip I saw of it on the dyno. I would say it's the Offy DP. :cry: And it was a holley vac. secondary 4V. So I'm guessing they used the 390 cfm holley. :?

Here's the video clip. The 300 starts on 0.33 of the video.

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Post #93 by blmhawkeye » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:42 pm

It is indeed a holley from the looks of it but i wouldnt think they would put a dp on it running a 268 comp cam



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Post #94 by Fordman75 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:07 pm

blmhawkeye wrote:It is indeed a holley from the looks of it but i wouldnt think they would put a dp on it running a 268 comp cam


I wouldn't run a dp on any 300 period! :lol:


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Post #95 by country fried 6 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:08 pm

looks like they ditched the pinned press-in rocker studs for screw in studs.



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Post #96 by Fordman75 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:47 pm

I'm just hoping they ditched the 240 flat top pistons!! :roll: :lol:


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Post #97 by 80broncoman » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:03 pm

Fordman75 wrote:
blmhawkeye wrote:They've posted the equipment theyre using but not intake manifold....


The way the carb was mounted in the video clip I saw of it on the dyno. I would say it's the Offy DP. :cry: And it was a holley vac. secondary 4V. So I'm guessing they used the 390 cfm holley. :?

Here's the video clip. The 300 starts on 0.33 of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pROSdy7t250


in the parts list it shows a Holley 470CFM truck avenger carb listed. on the new website.


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Post #98 by CNC-Dude » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:02 pm

Fordman75 wrote:I'm just hoping they ditched the 240 flat top pistons!! :roll: :lol:

I guess the dyno test will tell the tale. If its not padded.


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Post #99 by Fordman75 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:58 pm

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Fordman75 wrote:
blmhawkeye wrote:They've posted the equipment theyre using but not intake manifold....


The way the carb was mounted in the video clip I saw of it on the dyno. I would say it's the Offy DP. :cry: And it was a holley vac. secondary 4V. So I'm guessing they used the 390 cfm holley. :?

Here's the video clip. The 300 starts on 0.33 of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pROSdy7t250


in the parts list it shows a Holley 470CFM truck avenger carb listed. on the new website.


Well that's better then the 390. :D


Ted

54 Ford F100/F150 4x4
300, NP435 4spd, NP205 transfercase

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Re: Powerblock TV to do a 300 six build up !!

Post #100 by Baron Von Ottomatic » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:28 am

The second show is airing at 8:30 a.m. tomorrow, Sunday Jan 19. Set your DVRs to record.

http://www.powernationtv.com/schedule/



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