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Looking into my options

Post #1 by Wesman07 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:54 am

Hey guys,

So.... I had a really good job with a great company that has been in business for 99 years. On Friday they went chapter eleven. Now I'm about half way into building a 7 million dollar house, they shut my credit card off and I'm not even sure if anyone is in the office to write my check this week.

I'm in Pennsylvania but thinking a taking a job just south of Seattle. So now I'm looking at trailers.... and I'm curious on what my Mutt of a truck can handle.

What I have is a:

86 f150
300 I6
Np435
10.25/dana 60 3.55
Custom Deaver leaf pack (with two extra leafs if I need it)
And I would add electric brakes to it

Would a 7x14 double axle trailer be too much?

It is rated at 7k max, but I think I would be around 4-5k
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Re: Looking into my options

Post #2 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:11 pm

You should do fine - but just be patient in the mountains and expect to do a lot of downshifting. I pulled a tandem axle race car trailer with mine and there was a lot of downshifting involved in the mountains, but we made it. Be sure your cooling system is in good shape. Put on an overflow bottle if not so equipped. And check your brake lines for signs of corrosion before departing. Good luck on your new adventure.
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Post #3 by MechRick » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:35 am

I pull a 5,200 travel trailer with mine. I find wind resistance to be my biggest issue, but can usually maintain 55-60 mph. Climbs 5-6% grades at 45 mph. Plan on spending time in the truck lanes in the mountains, but you should be fine.
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Re: Looking into my options

Post #4 by Wesman07 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:25 am

Thank you for the input guys. I didn't think I would have an issue but figured it would be best to ask around.

I know my breaks are in good shape but I'm not positive my radiator holds pressure. I'll put that in the list.

I'll also make sure I spring for the V nose.

What do I need to look for in a break controller?
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Re: Looking into my options

Post #5 by tom954x4 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:12 am

^ regarding brake controller, I would look for one that is adjustable, that is, you can adjust the amount of braking applied to the trailer when you press the brakes, and one that you can use manually to brake just the trailer to stop trailer sway. Also, before you drive from Pennsylvania to Seattle, you want to make sure you have the tongue weight to be around 15 percent of the weight of the trailer. Use a scale to verify this. If the tongue weight is too little you will have a lot of sway and that is dangerous.

I use a weight distributing hitch for towing my 7.000 lb my Airstream with my F-250 which puts about 1/2 the tongue weight onto the front wheels (aiding steering and front braking greatly, and reducing sway to nil). If your trailer is loaded anywhere above 5,000 pounds then you would be glad to have such a hitch, especially in cross winds. I use an Equalizer Hitch and it is gold.

The biggest issue you will face coming west driving over the Rockies and Cascades is the descents, 6 -7 percent grades. Stay in low gear and take it as slow or slower downhill as you climbed the grade. On I-90, Lookout Pass on the Montana/Idaho border, the descent to the Columbia River with the sharp right turn at the bottom of the grade in Eastern WA, and descending Snoqualmie Pass into the Seattle area are the main ones.
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Post #6 by Harte3 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:47 am

"...15 percent of the weight of the trailer."

I do believe that should be 55%. At any rate, there should be more weight ahead of the trailer axles to stay out of a 'whip' situation.
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Post #7 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:49 am

Harte, You may be confusing wheelbase setback with tongue weight. 55% of the trailer weight on the hitch is way too much. 10% - 15% is generally accepted as the target. That is often achieved by offsetting the CL of the axle placement 55% of the way back.
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Post #8 by Harte3 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:25 pm

I'm thinking 55% ahead of the axle group and not on the tongue...I misstated it the first time...glad you caught that.
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Re: Looking into my options

Post #9 by tom954x4 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:04 pm

There's one other thing to throw out, if interstate driving at 65+ is not feasible with the trailer, you have strong West headwinds (likely) or you have the luxury of time.

Take some of the back roads out west off the interstate routes, avoid the steepest passes, and see some of the national parks, historical landmarks, and monuments at a more leisurely 55 mph. There is a route over the Rockies crossing the Divide at South Pass in Wyoming (US 26 and WY route 28) where the grades are not steep (the route the Oregon Trail and Mormon Trail used, by the way, with lots of historical markers marking major landmarks on these trails), after South Pass heading northwest on US 191 at Farson and following the Snake River from just below Grand Teton Natl. Park at Hoback Junction all the way to I-15. From there there are several routes to Seattle, some on the interstate and others off of it. Plenty to see on this leg too . . .

If you take this route you will not soon forget it. The view of the Wind River Mountains and the Divide from US 191 from the Pinedale area is just unforgettable. (fantastic hiking and climbing in these mountains!!) If you make the side trip from Hoback Junction to Grand Teton National Park you will also come away with WOW. :nod: :thumbup:
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Re: Looking into my options

Post #10 by Wesman07 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:30 pm

That would make more sense being that my hitch is rated for about 700 lbs

I like the route options. Hopefully I will have time to kick around. I typically plan my route around where my friends are living.
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