Old setup pics of drag 200 stang

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Old setup pics of drag 200 stang

Post #1 by drag-200stang » Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:15 am

Here are some pics of my drag 200 stang turbo. They're just what I had laying around. Engine with intercooler.
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/drag-20 ... 2.jpg.html

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Sunday drive ... 9 seconds at a time.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/ ... terbox.jpg

Yes, I know it needs paint badly. Currently working on. Plan to race again soon.
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66 Mustang Coupe
200 turbo w/lenco 4-spd
stock adj. rockers, stock timing set, ARP studs
best 1/4 mile ET 9.85/best mph 139 on 8 lbs progressing to 15 lbs boost
Went 9's when 10's was fast.

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Post #2 by Asa » Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:22 am

SWEETNESS!!!!!

you got stats? you gotta have stats....
gimme stats please gimme stats
Right and Wrong are just words, what matters is what you do

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Clyde - ya mule!

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Post #3 by 76maverick » Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:11 am

thank you you have given me hope , what kind of carb is that ?

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Post #4 by 66 Fastback 200 » Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:22 pm

The first picture reminded me of an old joke.

A guy looking into the car asks "Is that 4 on the floor?", no 5, I drank one on the way over.:

Budabump rim-shot...

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Post #5 by MandarinaRacing » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:10 pm

All I can say is WOW !!!!

:shock: :shock:

If you have any more pics please post them or e-mail them to me (if that's ok with you) :wink:

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Post #6 by scottiedawg66 » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:26 pm

i have eleventy billion questions for you.

1) what head are u using
2)whats ur compression
3) what gas are u using
4) what carb are u using
5) looks like that is a draw thru set up, can i see more detailed pics of engine! PLEASE!!!


Thats super sick, 9 second turbo I6 200 U RULE :twisted:
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Post #7 by scottiedawg66 » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:49 pm

how did u use an intercooler with a draw thru setup?
'65 fastback working on T04B turbo set up!

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Post #8 by 76maverick » Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:00 pm

he said without one :wink: :D

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Post #9 by Kstang » Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:09 pm

Ok well i have an easier question for you to anwser(not really) Tell me EVERY Thing that is done to your engine and drive line?

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Post #10 by grease_monkey_1966 » Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:14 pm

I was thinkin the same thing there Kstang

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Post #11 by Asa » Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:15 pm

76maveric wrote:he said without one :wink: :D

by the wording of it though, it looks like he's saying that there is one in the system, but it's just not pictured
Right and Wrong are just words, what matters is what you do



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Post #12 by drag-200stang » Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:30 am

Hi everyone! Thanks for the nice comments and thanks to this forum you guys have given me inspiration to finish painting my car and get it back to the track. I'll try to answer everyone's questions. I started the turbo engine in '74. By the time I got the car to the track it was about '81 (life... you know). I've been out of the loop for quite awhile now. I don't mean this to be a "how to". There are better turbochargers, parts and equipment available now. This is just what I had and how it worked. To clarify some things see my reply and pic under inter-cooled draw though turbo post. Best ET was 9.85 at 139 mph at 8 lbs boost progressing to 15 in high gear due to a turbine housing that was too large. Cylinder head was a '74 with 1.47" exhaust valves. I cleaned up the valve bowls ('78 would be better, late model 83 hex would be better yet with the largest log both have larger intake valves). Never computed compression. Pistons were forged flat tops with 62cc combustion chambers. Probably no higher than 8:1. Used aviation gas. Carburetor was a Holley double pumper 600. Should have been larger for all out performance. Bent the rods due to over boost problems and tune up. Went to aluminum rods. They tend to absorb the vibrations of our 6's and are easier on the bearings. Had to clearance bottom of the cylinder wall and cam shaft to get them to fit. What a job! Cam was a mild street cam - adv 266 degrees -236 at .050, 450 lift. Good for about 6500 rpms. Used early adjustable rockers. The new 1.6 would be better. The engine was over bored .070 - fine when tri-powered NA but way too thin for serious turbo boost. When I finish painting the car I plan on installing programmable MPFI with ignition control which should take care of fuel distribution problems I had with the log which kept burning up rings on cylinders 2 and 5. Turbo was air research TO4B with a V1 compressor and a P trim .96 turbine housing - .81 would have been better. Drive train specs are 10.5" 289 flywheel with explosion proof bell-housing adapted with block plate and machining to flywheel. Now have 11". The stock 9" clutches of the day would explode if you ran it to 7000 too many times. Trans is a 4-speed Lenco clutchless This was state of the art at the time but it weighs about 150 lbs. It takes a lot of power to turn. Rearend is a 9" with 486 gears, 1.5" 35 spline axles, spool. 8" 28 spline axles sheared off when I put on the larger 14-32" slicks. This is the short version, as much of this will be changed this Summer. Chassis may be out of date. I may have problems with tech to run this fast or (hopefully) faster. Hope this answered most of your questions. Thanks.

Jim
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66 Mustang Coupe
200 turbo w/lenco 4-spd
stock adj. rockers, stock timing set, ARP studs
best 1/4 mile ET 9.85/best mph 139 on 8 lbs progressing to 15 lbs boost
Went 9's when 10's was fast.

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Post #13 by xctasy » Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:03 am

Both Ak Millers 250 and your 200 have the low-mount starter so the turbo can sit way low. With a set of twin carbs like Mustang Geezers dual RGB Carter kit, a turbo six would have no problems with burning out number 5 and 2 rings, as the fuel distribution would be nearly perfect!

Beautifull stuff. All we need know is blank 10.5" clutches, and a full V8 running gear is just a couple of adaptors away. Heck, some people may even mis seing the turbo if it was done with a stock looking Escort air cleaner housing as a top bonnet for the carbs.

Jim, my hat goes off to you. What a pioneer!
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Post #14 by scottiedawg66 » Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:56 pm

Jim thanks for that post. This is such a positive forum, everyone seems to be here for good reasons, i like that. I'm starting on fabricating my turbo manifold today. Hope to use stock just as Jim did. Ill post pics once done.

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Post #15 by MandarinaRacing » Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:36 pm

drag-200stang wrote
I've been out of the loop for quite awhile now. I don't mean this to be a "how to". There are better turbochargers, parts and equipment available now. This is just what I had and how it worked.


True, maybe....but it's the way you put all those parts together that's admirable, you made real what most of us only dream of. Hope you can get it to the track soon, show some of those V8 boys some RESPECT...keep inline!

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Post #16 by Guest » Sun Apr 04, 2004 12:47 am

Beautiful work, Jim!

Tell me...does the brand of the cans in the engine pix have anything to do with your success? (Maybe I'm drinking the wrong stuff?)

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Post #17 by grease_monkey_1966 » Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:02 am

Bud Light works pretty well for me :D

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Post #18 by aussie7mains » Tue May 04, 2004 7:52 am

Nice rig,
Errol Quartermaine down here in Perth has a turbo charged 191ci alloy head crossflow altered that runs 8.12 @ 165mph with a four speed top loader.
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Post #19 by Johnny Ray » Tue May 04, 2004 9:08 am

Very impressive Jim!

Please keep us updated if you can as you have a car that inspires many of us inliners here on the board my friend.

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Post #20 by 66 Fastback 200 » Tue May 04, 2004 9:12 am

Does the intercooler have something to do with Budweiser? Possibly a dual purpose design?

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Post #21 by Thad » Fri May 07, 2004 7:17 am

Working on a rig Norway, have an Icelander here who races a turbo-ed SF6s in a Bronco. Showed him the pic of your engine he was impressed. Commented on the clean installation.
Don't know if you have seen the lunatic hill climbs they run in Iceland. Got my respect for gut, :shock: but guestion their smarts.

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Post #22 by drag-200stang » Sun May 09, 2004 10:13 pm

Johnny Ray - progress is slow - being a hobby I work on it when I can. Still hope to get out before the end of the season. I'll keep everybody posted.

Xecute - I think the 2 carb set-up would work well. I thought of blowing through my tripower YF Carters but, at the time it was generally viewed that 10 lbs boost was the max density that you could push through most carbs without leaning out. They just weren't made for that much of a density change. To keep up with the big block Camero's I figured I would have to run about 20 lbs.

Mark P - I don't know about success but I like BUD!

grease monkey - I drink Bud Light now too. What's the point of fitting a light weight starter to save 9 lbs when the driver gained 30?

66 Fast Back 200 - The Budweiser serves as assembly lube and intercooler for the mechanic.

Thad - you have to question anyone's smarts if they're hot rodding Ford 6's - LOL - Gotta luv 'em.

Thanks again everybody! Jim
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200 turbo w/lenco 4-spd
stock adj. rockers, stock timing set, ARP studs
best 1/4 mile ET 9.85/best mph 139 on 8 lbs progressing to 15 lbs boost
Went 9's when 10's was fast.

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Re: pics of drag 200 stang

Post #23 by drag-200stang » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:33 am

I got some questions about my old setup, thought it would be easier to TTT this back up.
66 Mustang Coupe
200 turbo w/lenco 4-spd
stock adj. rockers, stock timing set, ARP studs
best 1/4 mile ET 9.85/best mph 139 on 8 lbs progressing to 15 lbs boost
Went 9's when 10's was fast.

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Re: pics of drag 200 stang

Post #24 by drag-200stang » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:28 pm

If a mod can move this to the boosted forum that would be nice...When I made the post there was no such thing.
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200 turbo w/lenco 4-spd
stock adj. rockers, stock timing set, ARP studs
best 1/4 mile ET 9.85/best mph 139 on 8 lbs progressing to 15 lbs boost
Went 9's when 10's was fast.

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Re: pics of drag 200 stang

Post #25 by bubba22349 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:14 pm

:thumbup: ok I moved it for you drag-200stang. :nod:
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: pics of drag 200 stang

Post #26 by drag-200stang » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:59 pm

Thanks, bubba
Now I have to try and restore the pics.
66 Mustang Coupe
200 turbo w/lenco 4-spd
stock adj. rockers, stock timing set, ARP studs
best 1/4 mile ET 9.85/best mph 139 on 8 lbs progressing to 15 lbs boost
Went 9's when 10's was fast.

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Re: Old setup pics of drag 200 stang

Post #27 by 64 200 ranchero » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:12 am

I'd love to see the pics
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Re: Old setup pics of drag 200 stang

Post #28 by drag-200stang » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:35 pm

Two should show up if you click on the link...Maybe I can work on better restoration.
66 Mustang Coupe
200 turbo w/lenco 4-spd
stock adj. rockers, stock timing set, ARP studs
best 1/4 mile ET 9.85/best mph 139 on 8 lbs progressing to 15 lbs boost
Went 9's when 10's was fast.

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