Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

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Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #1 by 64 200 ranchero » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:43 am

Does anyone make a bellhousing to fit a Barra to a c4?
60 ford ranchero 200 tri power, modified c4 trans, performance ds2 distributor, msd 6, 3 stage retard, weber ict's, 8" rear end with spool, 3.80 gears, CI dual out header, Flowmaster, 90hp wet nitrous kit.

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Re: Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #2 by rocklord » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:27 am

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Re: Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #3 by 64 200 ranchero » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:07 pm

Awesome thanks
60 ford ranchero 200 tri power, modified c4 trans, performance ds2 distributor, msd 6, 3 stage retard, weber ict's, 8" rear end with spool, 3.80 gears, CI dual out header, Flowmaster, 90hp wet nitrous kit.

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Re: Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #4 by rocklord » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:11 pm

I found a bellhousing on eBay in California for a lot less money and free shipping.

Here it is:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quick-Time-SFI- ... qR&vxp=mtr

Hope this helps.
Dan

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1965 Mustang, 200CID, 3Spd
1964 Corvair Coupe, 164CID, 140HP, 4Spd
1961 Corvair Lakewood wagon, 145CID, 80HP, 2Spd Powerglide Auto.
2017 BMW X3, 3.0L Dual Turbo, 300HP, 8-Spd Auto

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Re: Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #5 by 64 200 ranchero » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:18 pm

Thanks, this will probably be a future build
60 ford ranchero 200 tri power, modified c4 trans, performance ds2 distributor, msd 6, 3 stage retard, weber ict's, 8" rear end with spool, 3.80 gears, CI dual out header, Flowmaster, 90hp wet nitrous kit.

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Re: Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #6 by rocklord » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:26 am

I take it that you have a Barra engine.
Which one? What vehicle are you planning to install it in?

Have you figured out how to handle the engine management without the stock transmission?

A 157 tooth flexplate from a US 250 would work except the bolt holes are 7/16" and the crank is 10mm.

I've got an AU 4.0 engine and am dealing with some of the same problems you'll be dealing with.
Dan

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1965 Mustang, 200CID, 3Spd
1964 Corvair Coupe, 164CID, 140HP, 4Spd
1961 Corvair Lakewood wagon, 145CID, 80HP, 2Spd Powerglide Auto.
2017 BMW X3, 3.0L Dual Turbo, 300HP, 8-Spd Auto

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Re: Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #7 by 64 200 ranchero » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:59 am

I don't have one yet, but I did find one. I'm thinking about doing it, but I wanted to make sure that it can be done. I love my tri-power 200, but it requires a lot of attention. Thanks for the info. It looks like it is doable.
60 ford ranchero 200 tri power, modified c4 trans, performance ds2 distributor, msd 6, 3 stage retard, weber ict's, 8" rear end with spool, 3.80 gears, CI dual out header, Flowmaster, 90hp wet nitrous kit.

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Re: Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #8 by rocklord » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:30 am

You may have clearance issues with the broad band manifold (BBM) to the left shock tower, and the front of the DOHC valve cover to the hood.
You may have to get the engine as low as possible to clear the hood, or make a scoop.

The Barra engine has an ECU that utilizes engine immobilizers called Smartlock and Smartshield. That's why you'll see some engine solds with the complete wiring harness, instrumentation (dash), transmission, and chassis computer; even the pedal assembly and gas tank. There are companies out there (in Australia) that can reflash the ECU to disable those features and change transmissions.

In order to install the AU 4.0 SOHC engine in my 65 Mustang, I'll have to shift the engine over to the right to clear the BBM to the shock tower.
The SOHC valve cover is not as pronounced as the DOHC, so I should be fine. The ECU for the AU can be reprogrammed with installation of a J3 Chip on the motherboard to bypass the immobilizers and change transmissions.

Good Luck. Keep us posted.
Dan

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1965 Mustang, 200CID, 3Spd
1964 Corvair Coupe, 164CID, 140HP, 4Spd
1961 Corvair Lakewood wagon, 145CID, 80HP, 2Spd Powerglide Auto.
2017 BMW X3, 3.0L Dual Turbo, 300HP, 8-Spd Auto

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Re: Barra 4.0 to a c4 transmission?

Post #9 by gravelrash » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:57 pm

the Quicktime bellhousing is actually the pick of the bellhousings.
1965 XP Falcon.
250 2v Turbo holset H1C 600dp blow through Holley.
NOW 250 crossflow efi using Delco injection.
412hp at the f@#king tyres. YEAH BABY

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