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hello from Argentina

Post #1 by fakundo__92 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:49 pm

Hello, my name is Facundo. I am from Argentina.
I have a Ford Falcon 3.6 liter 221 "1983
They are not the most beautiful models, but they are in good condition.
Originally it was a 188 and the engine was rebuilt to make it 221 with an improved camshaft of a particular model that was made here sp or sprint, 275 of permanence and 108º of center to center.
, in my country the 221 is very popular for 1/4 mile and races
. The compression ratio is 10 to 1 and it adapts a 2 mouths 40/40 weber dino
In Argentina they worked on the stock and designed 2 models, one that they call SP head and another MAXECONO, I can pass more information if they want it I leave some photos of what was used.

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Post #2 by bubba22349 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:26 pm

Welcome to the Ford Six forums Facundo, thank you very much for posting the pictures of your 221 we don't often get to see much of the 221 or 188 engine details here in the US. So if you want to post lots more and provide more details than I for one will enjoy getting to know about them. Good luck on your Falcon :thumbup: :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #3 by bmbm40 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:35 pm

Hello Facundo,
I like your Falcon have never seen one of those and your rebuild details are very interesting. I have heard of the SP heads but don't know much about them. I think they bolt to the US block but the exhaust ports are different. Let us know how you are doing.
66 Bronco-1970 250, NV3550, DSII, 4 turn ps, uncut, 1" bl, 2.5" sl, front disc, twin stick D 20, 30 x 9.50
NEXT- direct mount 1.08 on D8 head, power brakes, rear limited slip, 3G, electric fan, electric upgrades, custom curved DSII, header, 31" tires

New guy? Get the Falcon Performance Handbook and Ford six high performance parts from https://vintageinlines.com

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Post #4 by bmbm40 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:37 pm

Hello Facundo,
I like your Falcon have never seen one of those and your rebuild details are very interesting. I have heard of the SP heads but don't know much about them. I think they bolt to the US block but the exhaust ports are different. Let us know how you are doing.
66 Bronco-1970 250, NV3550, DSII, 4 turn ps, uncut, 1" bl, 2.5" sl, front disc, twin stick D 20, 30 x 9.50
NEXT- direct mount 1.08 on D8 head, power brakes, rear limited slip, 3G, electric fan, electric upgrades, custom curved DSII, header, 31" tires

New guy? Get the Falcon Performance Handbook and Ford six high performance parts from https://vintageinlines.com

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Post #5 by fakundo__92 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:47 pm

Thank you very much. I soon loaded the information I have. I have mcuha manuals, photos

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Post #6 by fakundo__92 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:42 pm

creates a publication with information about cylinder caps sp and max econo. In Argentina these 6 cylinders are used to compete in a very popular category called TURISMO CARRETERA (ROAD TOURISM). In some videos I also have information about those engines that are 3.0l (188) of 400hp.
in races like the resistance have powers of almost 800cv

sound turismo carretera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXOBAPyW0lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CTJHsRoWYo

drag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysPqZW0O5PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9ycVn33_bU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R19zmgADAd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw44zqWIZHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfiZjuNaZ14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzXpBV1Jnrg

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Post #7 by bmbm40 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:13 pm

Those Falcons are incredible! And so many! The Turismo cars sound like Formula cars to me. How do you get 400 hp from 188 cubic inches? Is that with a turbo? Feel free to send any related info you like.
66 Bronco-1970 250, NV3550, DSII, 4 turn ps, uncut, 1" bl, 2.5" sl, front disc, twin stick D 20, 30 x 9.50
NEXT- direct mount 1.08 on D8 head, power brakes, rear limited slip, 3G, electric fan, electric upgrades, custom curved DSII, header, 31" tires

New guy? Get the Falcon Performance Handbook and Ford six high performance parts from https://vintageinlines.com

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Post #8 by bubba22349 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:11 am

:beer: WOW those Falcons are screaming around the track! It looks like a lot of fun. Thank you for posting those :thumbup: :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #9 by fakundo__92 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:14 pm

No, no, no turbo ... they revolve around 9000 rpm. In recent years, approximately 2 implemented new cylinder heads with 4 valves per cylinder. But before they used
 heads of cylinders similar to the SP but of aluminum TURISMO CARRETERA .

Here I leave a link with the new cylinder heads



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXjkJOQ5iDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yCsRdhmDpw

(time 3:34 ) 9000rpm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-l3vt2CdrE
(10 second in 402m 1/4mile ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSM9i1kuYMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9R1KgvXhaw

beautiful sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZdnbNijCOg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbxMiGak62I

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Post #10 by bmbm40 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:09 pm

I did not have any idea the bottom end could hold up to 9000 rpm. How are they built to do that? And what kind of transmission are they using.
I am really enjoying this information. Are the blocks in Argentina like the US blocks or taller like the Australian block?
66 Bronco-1970 250, NV3550, DSII, 4 turn ps, uncut, 1" bl, 2.5" sl, front disc, twin stick D 20, 30 x 9.50
NEXT- direct mount 1.08 on D8 head, power brakes, rear limited slip, 3G, electric fan, electric upgrades, custom curved DSII, header, 31" tires

New guy? Get the Falcon Performance Handbook and Ford six high performance parts from https://vintageinlines.com

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Post #11 by bmbm40 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:29 pm

When did Ford Argentina stop making the Falcon like yours? We had a 61 Falcon when I was a teen and the body looks like your Falcon except with some updating at the corners, grill and body trim.
66 Bronco-1970 250, NV3550, DSII, 4 turn ps, uncut, 1" bl, 2.5" sl, front disc, twin stick D 20, 30 x 9.50
NEXT- direct mount 1.08 on D8 head, power brakes, rear limited slip, 3G, electric fan, electric upgrades, custom curved DSII, header, 31" tires

New guy? Get the Falcon Performance Handbook and Ford six high performance parts from https://vintageinlines.com

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Post #12 by fakundo__92 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:58 pm

The last Falcon was manufactured in 1992.
As for the construction for 9000rpm.
Steel crankshafts are used for steel. Steel benches
Special camshafts are used that rotate in opposite centipoise, replacing the distribution to the chain by 2 helical gears (the left camshaft we call it here)
As soon as I have time, I upload some of that information.
I think the 200 and our 221 engines are the same, I do not see differences.
previously used fixed distributors (no ignition time advances), but they no longer use the reprogrammable ignition for those, camshaft

the one on the bottom is the original crankshaft 221 ... and the one on top is the steel one with counter weights for "road tourism" (Tc)
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I upload more photos, you can see the external oil pumps that use tmb
are from tc all

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these are the gears
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I have technical specifications of tc. but they are in Spanish

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Post #13 by bmbm40 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:25 pm

Thanks for all this information and pictures. There is a lot of information here to digest. That pressure plate looks pretty interesting to me is that for racing only?
66 Bronco-1970 250, NV3550, DSII, 4 turn ps, uncut, 1" bl, 2.5" sl, front disc, twin stick D 20, 30 x 9.50
NEXT- direct mount 1.08 on D8 head, power brakes, rear limited slip, 3G, electric fan, electric upgrades, custom curved DSII, header, 31" tires

New guy? Get the Falcon Performance Handbook and Ford six high performance parts from https://vintageinlines.com

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Post #14 by fakundo__92 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:54 pm

if it's just for racing Some crazy people use it on the street, but it's not very comfortable to drive. They are called multi-disc.

I leave some more images, these are drag by the general carry the 221 (3.6 liters) to 3.8 3.9 liters

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this is from the competition a 250 chevy block is also used a lot here
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Post #15 by bmbm40 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:37 pm

Thanks fakundo you guys are doing some fantastic work down there. I will be looking at all this for quite some time.
66 Bronco-1970 250, NV3550, DSII, 4 turn ps, uncut, 1" bl, 2.5" sl, front disc, twin stick D 20, 30 x 9.50
NEXT- direct mount 1.08 on D8 head, power brakes, rear limited slip, 3G, electric fan, electric upgrades, custom curved DSII, header, 31" tires

New guy? Get the Falcon Performance Handbook and Ford six high performance parts from https://vintageinlines.com

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Post #16 by fakundo__92 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:32 pm

Do not mention it before the ford falcon sprint model from argentina. It is a 221 "and has 166hp 4500 rpm and 31kgm of torque at 3000 rpm with the head of cylinders that I mentioned at the beginning and the camshaft of 108º between centers, 7.15 mm of elevation and 272º of permanence. series, my engine has that camshaft

I am practicing my English, I am 26 years old and I am a mechanical engineering student in my country, in December I am going to travel to your country with a program called "work and travel" until April.
I really want to travel around your country and see your fabulous cars. I'm going to miss my car for those 4 months jaja
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Post #17 by chad » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:47 pm

this must B about mid way in ur visit.

Where are you currently located in USA?

We wanna show off what we got...

Make some contacts to buy parts from your country...jaja
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