Old car safety. (I know it's off topic sorry)

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Old car safety. (I know it's off topic sorry)

Post #1 by falcon_master » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:27 pm

Hi everyone I know what I'm about to go into is off topic but I don't know what forum to put this in that people would see it sorry :( .

I just had some questions regarding the safety of 64 falcon and what I can do about it. First of all I had an idea to put in 3 point seatbelts because I would much prefer those over just lap belts which leaves my face to smash into the steering wheel or dash. I was deciding between 3 point belt or 5 point harness. I think harness is safer but will A. Be much more difficult to install and B. Be extremely uncomfortable and annoying to look around in especially on long drives. My idea to put in 3 point was to run a steel bar in the top part of the bench seat and have it reinforced somehow to the from from the bottom. Then I connect lap belts as usual and for the shoulder belt I run it from inside the seat to the steel bar and the other end to the buckle. I know that's challenging and $$. But that aside will it even work. Will a 5 point even work for that matter. So any ideas on how to install those and keep the bench would be awesome because I love having bench seats. My second idea is to pad the dash or maybe even get a new dash out of shock absorbent material and to put a collapsible steering column so I don't break ever rib I have in the event of a crash and by making a makeshift crumple zone by knocking out a support beam in the engine bay and finding weak motor mounts so the engine will drop out and the whole hood becomes a crumple zone. I also want to make it safe for passengers because I would feel horrible if I got in an accident and I survived but someone else got seriously hurt because the car just can't be safe. Thanks everyone if it isn't possible to make this car safe I understand but I might have to look into a newer classic like 71+ that had some safety standards. Thanks
High School AFJROTC cadet and car enthusiast. Likes all things ford and engines of any company. 64 falcon 2dr sedan with 144 six and "3 on the tree" column shift manual transmission. Still in make it move stage.

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Re: Old car safety. (I know it's off topic sorry)

Post #2 by chad » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:01 pm

Please don't worry a great deal. Folks did alright in the old days. Look at the statistics.
Same w/all the helmets...did kids die ridin bikes, skiing, skate boardin?
U can get a 3 point in w/o alot of mods...just needs the whole belt (retractors, upper/door side mount, L & R anchors...)

You ARE correct tho - every generation (6/10 yrs in autos) there R improvements.
I'm happy w/frnt discs on a '70 vehicle.
Nuna dez will protect U w/o using the number 1 safety devise - defensive driving (lotta components in THAT story).

Keep talkin !
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Re: Old car safety. (I know it's off topic sorry)

Post #3 by chad » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:35 am

if you will:
post up your specs (year at minimum).
Every time I read ur posts askin 4 a lill help I don't know what the Q applies 2 exactly.
Makes it easier 4 me (us?) & more accurate 4 U.

(I know it's off topic sorry)
nuttin's off topic here!
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
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Re: Old car safety. (I know it's off topic sorry)

Post #4 by ludwig » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:06 am

Three point belts are more than sufficient for daily driving. Unless you drive like a fighter pilot on a closed track.

Several aftermarket companies make 3 point belts with retractors. All involve anchoring the belt to the floor and to the frame, NOT the seat back. One manufacturer has a belt for the Mustang with the third anchor on the brace between the trunk and the back seat. The belt ends up being about 10 feet long. More common is to mount the third point to the B pillar or the frame below the rear window. You could fab up a brace across the roof of the car, like a stock car racer. Also, dash pads can be found for your year. That may have been an option for that model year. It would take a bit of research.

Chad is right. People survived the 60s with their health intact. I'm one.
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