When You Know you have an Addiction (but dont care)

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Post #1 by CoupeBoy » Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:06 pm

Trolling Craigslist yesterday, I spotted this..
Its not a Ford.. But I'll find it a good home.
FREE International Harvester / AMC 232/T90 Transmission - $69 (Fargo)
Testing the waters with giving away the AMC 232 I6 in my 70' International Scout 800a. Here's the deal, I'm looking at swapping a different engine/transmission into the Scout this winter, and this fall will be the last easy opportunity to easily see this 30,000mi engine running. The previous owner put some real money into upgraded electronic distributor and electronic choke Weber Carb, the engine starts like a champ and is really smooth, doesn't burn any oil.....Though there is a valve cover oil leak. And maybe a rear mainseal leak. But the price is right, email if interested in seeing it running before it's removed from the truck this fall. The T90 3spd is in great shape too, could come along or be separated.
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I'm going to look at it later today or tomorrow, he is supposed to text me his availability..

Now what could I possibly use a 232 i6 with a 38/38 Weber for? :rolflmao: (no seriously, I'm going to need some suggestions....) :hmmm:
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Post #2 by ludwig » Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:11 pm

Scout.

Kind of like a shrimp, right? You peel away the outside and keep the inside for something delicious.
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Post #3 by CoupeBoy » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:17 pm

That is one possibility.. I have access to a '73 or '74 Scout II that has a locked up 304/4speed.

Another idea is that I have access to a '79 Toyota Regular Cab/Long Bed that has a 'decent' running 20R but a real piece of junk 4speed, the shifter linkage is sloppy.

The guy pulling the i6 is swapping in a (gasp) 5.7L "other brand" motor.

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Post #4 by ludwig » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:20 pm

High speed: one thing.

High torque: another.

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Post #5 by CoupeBoy » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:29 pm

Did you really think I was going to tell her about it? :nono:
Back in ancient times I drove an AMC Gremlin, it had a 232 in it out of a Runabout station wagon. It drove OK, no complaints. And it was only a 1bbl.
I know all about the 304 and 345 being low RPM torque motors, but the i6 isn't a 204 or a 345...

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Post #6 by ludwig » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:23 pm

I got to drive an AMC Hornet wagon with that I6 and stick shift for a while back in the early mid-70s. Lot of torque, tight motor, real solid and clean shifts, totally reliable clutch. It was like a family sports car. At the time, I was using my Plymouth Satellite wagon for work b/c I could load plywood and sheetrock in the back. If things were different, I would have loved one of those.

Gremlin? Not so much after the pics of the hood slicing through the front window at neck height in a frontal collision.

I hear ya man, but I can't hide a new project behind the big shed like you can.
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Post #7 by bubba22349 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:10 pm

:hmmm: How about a Rambler American 2 door sedan the 1968 or 9's are not bad looking especially with some SC touches. Probably any thing from a 1964 to 69 would work good. :nod:
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Post #8 by CoupeBoy » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:47 pm

Dad has a '65 AMC American 2dr post, it already has a 232/auto in it.
Although it does not have electronic ignition or a Weber.

The '65 Coupe isn't behind a building.. It is IN the building.
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Best part.. My wife told me to start putting together a price list to construct a new pole structure, with a roof only, just to store equipment under... airstream, tractor, skidsteer, '65 Mustang, pickup box trailers, other half done/baked projects. The main purpose of the building will be to keep hail off their roofs.

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Post #9 by bubba22349 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:38 pm

Or a station wagon would be cool and real useful too, another of my AMC favorites was the AMX and some Javelins. :beer: Better get going on that poll barn too that would really help! :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #10 by CoupeBoy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:19 pm

And then I look on Craigslist today and see a Scout 2 with a 232/manual trans.
1976 Scout 2 - $4500 (Moorhead mn)
6 cylinder 232 engine. New tires, water pump, and master cylinder. 98% rust free
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I've actually seen this scout 2 in person before it is pretty nice; at the time, the owner was selling a 1973 Scout Traveler that had been somewhat converted to use a pickup half cab. But it didn't have a tail gate because the Travelers had a full lift hatch compared to the scouts that have tailgates and topper lift windows.

I didn't buy the Traveler because it was a total rust bucket, inner rocker panels gone, gaps between the door and floor. And it was a real gutless wonder for being a 345/Auto.

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Post #11 by bubba22349 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:14 pm

That looks very decent! :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #12 by CoupeBoy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:42 pm

That Scout is in very good shape, I'm surprised that he is selling it, he was quite fond of it when we were over to look at the Traveler.

AMC cars in this area are rare, I've seen only a single Javelin. And NO AMX since moving back to ND. Way back in the day (early 80's) Mom had a Javelin, I don't remember much about it.

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Post #13 by ludwig » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:24 pm

There were maybe half a dozen Javelins in Des Moines in the 70s. Big AMC dealer on the near eastside of downtown.

My divers ed car 1966) was an American Ambassador. Top of the line: champagne colored fabric seats, carpet, power steering, power brakes, V8. Our family car was a 9 passenger 1954 Packard limo. Bit of a change up driving at school. He always nicked me for turning too wide and hitting the brakes to hard in a panic stop. Of course the Packard had no power nothing, so it was a reflex.

I still look at those Hornets. Especially the stick shift ones.
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Post #14 by rbohm » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:17 am

ron, i say build a scout ll. the last one i drove, back in 1980, had a bad trans, the synchros were shot. i could change into each gear, but i had to hold the gear lever to keep it in gear. i only drove it from the dead line to the auction line, about 3/4 mile distance, but it was enough for me to kind fall in love with the scout. if i had the money at the time, i would have gone to the auction and bought that truck, stuck in an automatic and drove that thing all over the place.
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Post #15 by CoupeBoy » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:55 pm

I never did get the IH motor, he sold it to somebody who actually needed it, no loss.
Today when I was shopping random stuff on Craigslist, I found a non-descript posting that lead me to talking to a guy who is selling a 200/Auto (C5DE-6015-H -- single pattern bell housing) for $50
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Of course I told him I'd take it, making arrangements via text (he is in a bad cell phone coverage area)
5 softplugs, SCV/LOM, 3 bolt water pump.
Red valve cover and (used to be) black block.
I don't know my transmissions very well, but I'm hoping that is at least a green dot C4 that I can upgrade with a newer valve body.

I'm going to have to start shopping for a '65/66 Mustang floor shifter and brake pedal pretty soon..

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