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I WANT GODZILLA!

Post #1 by sdiesel » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:17 pm

Ford, has a record of building very good big blocks, this we know, but the new 7.3 is everything we expect from Ford's engineers.

but this engine is , how shall I say,...

everything a truck needs
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Post #2 by 68Flareside240 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:23 pm

I too am very eager to see what they are gonna do. With them dropping the 5.0 from the F150s I may have to step up to an F250 with this motor. I believe the 6.2 will still be an option as well.

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Post #3 by benchracer » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:02 pm

Plug an play crate motor!

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Post #4 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:50 pm

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/inside- ... ushrod-v8/

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Post #5 by sdiesel » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:25 pm

the plug and play option has become a viable revenue stream for the Detroit 3 er, 2.

I remember in times gone by when they were not eager to cater to the "motoring enthusiast".

king Henry the second was still on the throne.his likes and dislikes well known to his kingdom.

the long evil shadow of Alfred Sloan and his "planned obsolescence, and " boys, we are not in the business of making cars we are in the money making business" hovered over the GM building and rained grey sheets of money, so why should they care about a few grimy hot rodders.
it took chrysler , to (again) save the car biz.
the first time with the hemi spanking anything that moved, the second with the ebullient,mr. I, giving us a mini van , and the 3rd giving us the "hemi- that-is-not-exactly-a-hemi,
to, how shall we say, bring it back again.
another spanking by the car company, no one in detroit thought of going to work for unless they could not get into ford or GM....
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Post #6 by sdiesel » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:34 pm

So now we have the world's finest and best engineering teams designing cars of remarkable beauty, incorporating every wish and whim of every hot rodders dream, onto platforms that will haul furniture, horse trailers, cement and families to baseball.
platforms as sleek and beautiful as a dodge prowler, with safety, speed, comfort, and efficiency.
they are free to design and BUILD amazing machines selling at prices few can afford, that will go speeds few of us can drive, and last longer than most of us will live.
amazing.
and to think in a decade, at this pace these fablous things will be totally obsolete. cast aside like old cell phones.
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Post #7 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:25 pm

sdiesel wrote:...and to think in a decade, at this pace these fablous things will be totally obsolete. cast aside like old cell phones.


Maybe true. But I'd like to think there will always be a place for obsolete machinery that was once cutting edge. That's why I love the DC-3 and, for that matter - the 300. They are the stepping stones to the future.
The day will come when valves are actuated digitally with infinite variability with no need for camshafts, ignition is actuated without a distributor and varied according to each individual cylinder's needs, fuel is injected directly into the cylinders of an engine containing very little metal...
...wait a minute - they're actually here.

[EDIT: And even that is just the next step toward eliminating fossil fueled powerplants altogether.]
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Post #8 by sdiesel » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:44 pm

...and each cylinder is measured for its compression and temp, and burn rate....


it's 2024,
gasoline? "bah, that's so like the teens.
I mean, where can I even buy gasoline now"?

"they have it at a pump out back down at the EV
kwik charge"? ...wow.
but u have to be certified to pump the gas, and that cert means u know how to handle such a dangerous chemical...

and the DC-3, is not obsolete, how can the best plane ever made go obsolete??
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Post #9 by bubba22349 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:13 am

I got to work on a DC3 airframe during my A & P training, such a great airplane! I didn't get to work on their engines but did get to work on a smaller Radel Version a Pratt and Witney R985 that was a lot of fun too. :nod:
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Post #10 by sdiesel » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:31 am

I got to ridentify back from Montana in one in the 60's. I was very young 6 maybe.
I'm with wildland fire now in nevada.
I may have seen one on the fire line. was I mistaken?
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Post #11 by pmuller9 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:10 pm

445 cu inches with an iron cross bolt main block expected to have over 400 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque.

Just think about this.
Add a turbocharger or two and with 16 lbs of boost we are looking at 800 hp and 1000 ft lbs of torque.
The Variable Cam Timing can be programmed for a very wide band turbo response.

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Post #12 by Jesse73 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:44 pm

sdiesel wrote:I got to ridentify back from Montana in one in the 60's. I was very young 6 maybe.
I'm with wildland fire now in nevada.
I may have seen one on the fire line. was I mistaken?



They were still jumping out of a DC-3 from Missoula back in 2015-16 time period when I was working fire out of Wise River. So maybe!

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Post #13 by sdiesel » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:09 am

pmuller9 wrote:445 cu inches with an iron cross bolt main block expected to have over 400 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque.

Just think about this.
Add a turbocharger or two and with 16 lbs of boost we are looking at 800 hp and 1000 ft lbs of torque.
The Variable Cam Timing can be programmed for a very wide band turbo response.


...in a pick up truck. imagine.

add propane, direct injected wet....laminova heat exchanger
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Post #15 by sdiesel » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:46 pm

...and it took no time at all for me to dream up a use for this new engine-repower for classic vintage motorhomre like barth newell, wanderlodge and so on-allcame with ford power; 391, 534, etc.
What total trashy fun to repower, a perfect condition motorhome, like this:

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/rvs/ ... 24592.html
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Post #16 by pmuller9 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:37 pm

Looks like it is now available as a crate engine.
http://www.fordracingbyspeedshopdirect. ... gKAc_D_BwE

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Post #17 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:09 pm

Wow - an aluminum headed forged steel crank 430 hp engine for under $7500 complete. That is pert near a giveaway price.
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Post #18 by sdiesel » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:26 am

That's it.
I'm throwing my junk in the river
A smart man knows when he's been beat(en).

I can buy this for about what it cost to build an engine.
Fer Pete's sake.....
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Post #19 by xctasy » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:14 am

And its a small block. Even though its got more cubes than a Firepower, Street Hemi, Pontiac, almost as much as a Toronado and Eldorado...its made on the NASCAR and 6.2 SOHC bore spacings.

I love the concept of a mass produced knitting needle engine. Its what Motor City does Best. Put yo handZup 4 D Triot. LOVE THIS CITY....!
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Post #20 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:09 am

The King is dead.
Long live the King!
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Post #21 by sdiesel » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:38 am

King Henry?
Or King Elvis??
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Post #22 by sdiesel » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:03 am

This engine....is so intriguing that a new box to carry it around in might be the order of the day.
Ford overlooked nothing , and a new truck looks increasingly more appealing to this shopper.
Just yesterday I was groaning to myself ( and any passers-by,) while tightening valve cover bolt on my old clunker. Thinking how nice a new trk......
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Post #23 by pmuller9 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:26 am

The torque curve is amazing

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Post #24 by bubba22349 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:40 am

Found a group of 5 videos on the Godzilla engine! First one is about a swap kit that was already being designed by Team Z Motorsports back in January. It shows the 7.3 Godzilla swapped into a Fox Body Mustang. Other videos shows it size compared to a 351W, a Coyote, and a another Windsor stroker with SV1 275 race heads. Plus hear it run in some Dyno pull results and compleate tear down showing all the internal parts in detail. Test Drive and some real exciting stuff planed by the aftermarket too. enjoy. :thumbup: :nod: Edited

Part 1 Godzilla Has All Ready Been Swapped Into a Fox Body Mustang
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pysUCYz4wlM

Part 2 Dyno and Engine Tear Down
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4SlsScnBY

Part 3 Bottom End Tear Down and Big Can it Go
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nlK-NW2pILM

Part 4 Cam, Valve Train, Rocker Arms, and Oil Pump
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CJztLbsQ7Y4

Part 5 Weight and Hear it Run on a Couple of Dyno Pulls
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wSkBcFyZeks

Test Drive Review of F250 7.3 MPG Empty and Towing
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckfug4BHx44

Test Drive 5 Star Tuning
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=axgrk0tUj_Y

Bonus 7.3 Whippel Supercharged Kits First Look
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEUP5Gni-FA
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Post #25 by benchracer » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:28 pm

Anybody have driven a Godzilla powered truck yet?

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Post #26 by xctasy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:09 pm

sdiesel wrote:This engine....is so intriguing that a new box to carry it around in might be the order of the day.
......


Try this.

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Best Box...is a Fox...IMHO....


benchracer wrote:Anybody have driven a Godzilla powered truck yet?


Not me. But its plenty powerful modified.

https://youtu.be/mHTXBRRzo-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHTXBRRzo-s


On the final corrected curve


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we have a Twin Peaks Rocky Mountain Plateau 550 to 525 to 553 lb-ft torque curve at 5500-6100-6750 and 790 hp at 7600 rpm. Nice Aspirations Index, nice relaxed 1.24 lb-ft per cube Without Even Trying..Knowing how perfect the bore spacing's and port arrangements are to match a Dominator carb spacing, Tunnel rammed with 1150 cfm Dual Quads, this could easily make 860 hp at the same revs.Just As it is That things really quite awesome..Brian Wolfe...you are a shining star!
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Post #27 by pmuller9 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:34 pm

The torque curve is just so mazing and it wasn't showing signs of dropping off quickly which means the horsepower would have kept climbing.
Can't wait to see the results with the Whipple supercharger.

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Post #28 by xctasy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:42 pm

pmuller9 wrote:The torque curve is just so mazing and it wasn't showing signs of dropping off quickly which means the horsepower would have kept climbing.
Can't wait to see the results with the Whipple supercharger.



Yep. True dat. It's nice to have faith in your engine ability, but its more important to keep your camel tied up. That torque curve is one wicked double hump dromedary camel, Mr M. bADAZZZ...


Whatever his effective boost ratio, that will be the increase! Based on the specs, it can make 929 hp at 7600 rpm on 14:1 compression with the right induction and cam. 900 hp, Brian's being a gentleman of conservative speech! Before even adding BOOST.

I remember a few years ago, :hmmm: dreaming of a R452 or Man O’War or Dart Iron Eagle 4.38 bore center 9.2" deck Cleveland block being crossed with a 4.63 bore center 427 10.170" deck FE.


Well, Funnily enough, its what the Ford 4.500" bore spacing FR9 NASCAR engine is, but in production form, and able to take the extra 8% capacity via an extra 0.649" of deck increase.

Ford USA and Australia and United Kingdom and Cologne has been doing stuff like that since the first 221 and 250 six cylinders were birthed from little 200 sixes. The 2.3 and 2.5 OHV front drive engines in the Tempo and Taurus. Same wit the 4.0 verses the 2.6/2.8/2.9. The Cosworth BD series engines based on the Kent. The Cosworth DF series quad cam engines, starting off Tasman series 2.5 liter or DFX engines and then ending up 3.9 liters. Same with the 400 and 351W . Factory tall decks based on the same casting room tooling. GM generally doesn't really do the same stuff, except the odd tall deck 292 and 366 and 427 commercial versions were built with a raised-deck.

The cross over point to big block is in my opinion the Firepower 331-392 bore spacing, shared by all Chrysler FirePower engines, was 4.5625", the largest of any 1st generation hemi engines.

As former Ford Director of North America Motorsports in 2009, Brian Wolfe knows well the block is a 100% FR9 M-6010-R500 work-alike on steroids...with an extra 27 thou bore spacing's and 649 thou in the deck. All the brilliant advances of that race block, which saved 100 hours of additional machining over the 335 series and WCP blocks, is amortized on the production line Boss 6.2 cammer. It's the bomb!

That engine is the Boss 6.2 derived 445 GeeZee. 100% the biggest, baddest small block ever.
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