Tie rod question - adding grease fittings

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Tie rod question - adding grease fittings

Post #1 by 60sMustang » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:42 pm

I want to add grease fittings to the existing tie rod ends on my 1966 mustang coupe, it's a 200 inline six with manual steering. I have the tie rods off the car right now to replace the dust boots that were torn and want to make sure they are properly greases when they go back together. Also noticed all the new replacements have grease fittings on the back side of the tie rod end, opposite the tie rod shaft.

Has anyone drilled their existing tie rod ends to add grease fittings? If so is there anything I need to worry about like damaging the knuckle inside,etc.

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Inline 200 - Bored .030, Comp Cam, Ported Head
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Re: Tie rod question - adding grease fittings

Post #2 by wsa111 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:02 pm

I have installed grease fittings in ball joints, but as a safety issue i would just replace your components with ones that already have the grease fittings installed.
I have seen some older components with a screw in plug, if that is the case just remove the plug & install screw in fittings.
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Re: Tie rod question - adding grease fittings

Post #3 by 60sMustang » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:03 am

Also was considering trying to pack the knuckles with grease before putting the new boots on. Do you know if I can pack them like a bearing with grease? Then I would use a grease needle to fill the boot with some grease before I put them back on.

What's your opinion on this method. They seem to be good still so I don't really want to replace them and get an alignment if I don't have to.

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Post #4 by wsa111 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:26 pm

It would not be greased as well as grease fitting would do.
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Post #5 by bubba22349 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:21 pm

:hmmm: I think you might be able to drill and tap the tie rod ends for a grease fitting if you were real careful. If you had a drill press to use you could control the depth you go through the back side try about an 1/8 of inch to see if it's enough then go a little more at a time until you just break through. You could put some grease on the drill and also the tap so that no metal chips go into the tie Rod cavity and or use compressed air to blow it out good. Best of luck :nod:
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Re: Tie rod question - adding grease fittings

Post #6 by 60sMustang » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:58 pm

bubba22349 wrote::hmmm: I think you might be able to drill and tap the tie rod ends for a grease fitting if you were real careful. If you had a drill press to use you could control the depth you go through the back side try about an 1/8 of inch to see if it's enough then go a little more at a time until you just break through. You could put some grease on the drill and also the tap so that no metal chips go into the tie Rod cavity and or use compressed air to blow it out good. Best of luck :nod:


My concern is how much room is there, if any, between the housing and the knuckle. Also how thick is the back of the casting for it to accept the threads.
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1966 Mustang Coupe:
Inline 200 - Bored .030, Comp Cam, Ported Head
T5 swap - 8" rear end(4 lug converted)
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Post #7 by bubba22349 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:33 am

Look at the side thickness since you have the dust covers off. My best guess is that it's about 1/8 to 3/16 inch thick on the back side.
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Re: Tie rod question - adding grease fittings

Post #8 by 60sMustang » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:33 pm

bubba22349 wrote:Look at the side thickness since you have the dust covers off. My best guess is that it's about 1/8 to 3/16 inch thick on the back side.


So I drilled, tapped and installed the grease fitting on the back side of one tie rod end today. All went smooth and it greased the tie rod well. Now I will do the rest of them and install the dust boots after flushing out all the old grease. The back of the outside casting was a little over 1/8" thick and there was a decent cavity for the fitting to sit into after the drilled broke through, which made it easier to get the threads tapped in also. The idea to add grease to the drill and tap worked well also to keep metal shavings from falling in the cavity.

Just thought I would post an update in case anyone else reads this later they will have the results.
Will
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Inline 200 - Bored .030, Comp Cam, Ported Head
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Post #9 by bubba22349 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:23 pm

:beer: Excellent am glad that it worked for you. :thumbup:
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: Tie rod question - adding grease fittings

Post #10 by 60sMustang » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:06 pm

bubba22349 wrote::beer: Excellent am glad that it worked for you. :thumbup:


Thanks for the suggestions. Got them all done and reinstalled yesterday.
Will
Uniontown, Ohio
1966 Mustang Coupe:
Inline 200 - Bored .030, Comp Cam, Ported Head
T5 swap - 8" rear end(4 lug converted)
Classic Inlines - Header, Dual Exhaust, Cold air intake
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Post #11 by bubba22349 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:33 pm

:beer: :thumbup: that's great, and being able to grease all of them should make them really last .......... :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: Tie rod question - adding grease fittings

Post #12 by 60sMustang » Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:59 pm

bubba22349 wrote::beer: :thumbup: that's great, and being able to grease all of them should make them really last .......... :nod:


I agree! They were in good shape so I hated to replace them just so I could get new ones with grease fittings. The grease fittings really worked well to grease the entire joint too. I was actually kind of shocked at how well it did work.
Will
Uniontown, Ohio
1966 Mustang Coupe:
Inline 200 - Bored .030, Comp Cam, Ported Head
T5 swap - 8" rear end(4 lug converted)
Classic Inlines - Header, Dual Exhaust, Cold air intake
Autolite 1100 - Pertronix ignition

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