Borgeson Power Steering

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Borgeson Power Steering

Post #1 by cmm24601 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:59 pm

Considering the Borgeson Power Steering Conversion Kit for my 69 Mustang. Anybody try it? Happy with it?

What is the difficulty of installation? The part about trimming the steering shaft worries me a bit...
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Re: Borgeson Power Steering

Post #2 by 69stang_250 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:22 pm

I have no experience with the borgeson setup, but I have installed the Electric power steering in my 69 mustang and am super happy with it. Took the good part of a day to install it, but its nice to have power steering now without sacrificing any power from the engine and no fluids to deal with.

Not trying to sway you, but just throwing that out there.
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Electric Borgeson Power Steering

Post #3 by chad » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:47 pm

doesn't 'ele power steering' have a "strange" feel?
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Re: Borgeson Power Steering

Post #4 by 69stang_250 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:25 pm

Not really to me. There is a potentiometer to adjust the feel. I have it set where it takes a little effort to turn the wheel that way I still feel what the car is doing on the road at speed.
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Re curved DSII, MSD AL6, CI Intake, FITech 400HP fuel injection. T5 trans, 8" rearend w/3.80 gears, Eaton trutrack.

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Re: Borgeson Power Steering

Post #5 by bmbm40 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:23 pm

It looks good in the picture. I am somewhat impressed that you can just go out and purchase a power steering conversion kit for 250 six Mustang. That looks like a Saginaw power steering pump which would be good and really the price is very reasonable. I pieced together the power steering conversion for my bronco for probably just a bit under 500 with all used parts and the friend that can flare the line fittings for me and also some major butchery on the steering shaft which is not the final product that I have in mind but it has been working fine so far. I would go for it.
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Re: Borgeson Power Steering

Post #6 by 67Straightsix » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:47 pm

I have one,but the car hasn't been driven yet. I choose it on the recommendation of a friend who has installed quite a few of them in the old
mustangs. I know the owners of a couple cars with borgeson power steering , and they are pleased with the way the steering feels.

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Re: Borgeson Power Steering

Post #7 by mustang6 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:58 pm

I installed the Borgeson power steering unit a few years ago on my 67 Mustang with a 289, the only problem I had was with driver side header interference (something you obviously won't have with the six cylinder!). I already had power steering and elected to keep my Ford pump instead of going to their GM style. The Ford pump works OK (they sell the conversion hoses for either configuration), it just doesn't produce as high of pressure and I like the resulting slightly heavy power steering feel (you can easily move the wheel when at a stop with one hand, but not with one finger). If you want that one finger super power steering you can use their pump or put a V-belt pulley an a later model Ford pump that makes more pressure.

As far as road feel goes, it is the best change I could have made for making driving pleasurable- even when new, with Ford's power assist system there is a "soft spot" in the center where the ball valve needs to move a little bit either direction before it knows to assist you on a turn. We have crowned roads in my state (Washington=rain) so I would always have to slightly correct back and forth to go in a relatively straight line (this is with good tires, good alignment/suspension, etc), it's just the way it was designed.

The Borgeson box gets rid of all that- now there are only two hoses going between two fixed objects (pump and steering box), it looks like OEM and steers like a modern car- crowned roads are no longer a chore and it just makes driving more pleasurable. I have had zero problems with the box itself (I hear they are Toyota truck boxes that have been resized/resplined on the pitman arm end).

As far as modifying the steering column, it really depends on what you have- in my case I had a 68 Mustang tilt column which is collapsible. So all I had to do (and you should too with a '69) was tap on the rag joint flange with a rubber mallet to collapse the shaft in on itself for the needed clearance. That plus their conversion "half rag joint" made it a total bolt-in with no cutting or anything on the steering column.

Feel free to ask me any questions. I still have the car but it is not in my profile because it has too many cylinders :)
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Re: Borgeson Power Steering

Post #8 by 69stang_250 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:56 pm

I got the kit from cj pony parts. I think its the same kit you would get from most mustang parts dealers.
69 mustang coupe, 250 .030 over, forged pistons, port & polished CI AL head 54cc's 10.25CR, 280/280 Clay smith cam 1 degree advanced, 1.6 adjustable rockers,
Re curved DSII, MSD AL6, CI Intake, FITech 400HP fuel injection. T5 trans, 8" rearend w/3.80 gears, Eaton trutrack.

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