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Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

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Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #1 by rzcrisis » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:23 pm

Hi All

After getting my rear leaf springs redone with new clips and bushings, I want to lower the front end stance a bit. Nothing too drastic but I think the height could go down at least 1.5" to possibly 2". I have 3.5" between the top of the tire tread to the wheel well lip currently. There is lots of room for the wheels in the well which are 14" with radials from a 65 Ranchero. I was contemplating buying one of those coil spring clamp kits just to see how far I want to go....just temp before I look at possibly lowering springs. Your thoughts on this?? I have attached a photo of the car so you can see the current stance. Thanks for your input as always.

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Re: Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #2 by bmbm40 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:37 pm

Nice Falcon. You could have a couple of friends sit on the front fender / hood area and see how far down it goes.
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Re: Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #3 by rwbrooks50 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:59 pm

Most folks cut the coil springs. You could do the Shelby drop too.

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Re: Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #4 by rzcrisis » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:13 pm

Question: at what point do you risk problems with steering and adversely affecting other suspension components? I was thinking lowering 1"-2" max. I would probably purchase the lowering springs to the proper spec for this.

Primary purpose is to get a lower stance as well as hopefully improving drivability ie. handling.

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Re: Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #5 by Drgonzo » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:51 pm

A few years ago I lowered my son's Maverick by removing 1 full coil from the stock springs and it worked out well. A lot of people will tell you that you can't or shouldn't cut coil springs but when I was racing dirt track hobby stock cars we did it all the time. Grinder or torch they worked just fine. I cut a coil off the Maverick springs with a big angle grinder.
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Re: Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #6 by tdlund » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:33 pm

Here’s one coil cut off and the Shelby drop. 17x7 wheels with 225 45 17 tires.
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Post #7 by rzcrisis » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:12 pm

Thanks guys for all the input.i am going to use the spring clamps to do a mock up and see what height I want then decide on either cutting my springs or order some lowering coils.

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Re: Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #8 by rzcrisis » Thu May 02, 2019 7:18 pm

Hello All

So thought I would provide on update on what I ended up doing to get the stance better on my Falcon. After investigation I found out the coil springs were for a V8 setup so decided to grit my teeth and cut the coils. Went 1/4 coil cut at a time and when I was done cut 1.25 coil off. Brought my tierods down to almost parallel with ground instead of them reaching for the sky. Road test revealed a much better ride with better steering and no issues with big bumps...went over severe roadwork and railroad tracks with no problems. So success! I have attached a pic to show how the car sits now which I am happy with. I would like to find some 4 lug 14" rims that are wider than the 65 Ranchero 5" rims so I can put some wider tires on the back. Currently I have P19575R14 Hankook 724s all around. Like the Hankook tires and would like to just get a wider rim and stay with the 724 series for consistent look. I think the widest/tallest tire that will fit these rims is P20575R14??

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Re: Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #9 by 62Cometman » Mon May 06, 2019 1:49 pm

From my personal experience 205/70r14 is the largest that will fit on the front without rubbing, under hard braking and quick turning i will rub every once in a while but not an issue 95% of the time. For the rear depending on the offset of the wheel ive heard 235 will clear i have a 0 offset wheel and a 215/70r14 will fit if you roll the inner fender lip where the tire sits, with some negative offset or large backspacing like FWD cars have you could get away with maybe a 225/65 or even a 235/60 the axle stop mount is the next peice that typically needs to go for clearance after that and then larger wheel tubs. good luck with the project it looks good :beer:
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Post #10 by rzcrisis » Mon May 06, 2019 8:17 pm

Thanks for the info. I really am hoping just to keep my 65 Ranchero 5" rims with the widest and tallest tire to fit them. I like the original steelies and my dog dish hub caps fit them. That is the reason why I am asking if the p205/75r14s are the largest tire to fit these rims......or maybe there is something bigger tirewise that will fit?? This is only for the rears.

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Post #11 by bmbm40 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:17 pm

That is a nice stance.
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Post #12 by bubba22349 » Wed May 08, 2019 4:49 pm

:beer: very nice stance / rake that's how I like them too. :thumbup: :nod:
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Post #13 by rzcrisis » Wed May 08, 2019 5:47 pm

Thanks for the compliments guys! Just need to get a wider tire for the back within budget. :wink:

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Re: Lowering Front End Options-63 Ford Falcon 2DR Sedan

Post #14 by 62Cometman » Thu May 09, 2019 3:44 pm

You said that your wheels are 5", is that right? Its been forever since i had my original wheels so i dont remember exact what they were but i thought they were 5.5 but with a 5 inch wheel a 205 would be pushing it and it would likely look pinched, but 5.5 it should fit not problem. 195 would be your average large tire size for the 5 wheel.
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