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Post #1 by The Plankster Prankster » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:49 pm

i've been thinking it would be really nice to convert my van to 4x4. i know people have done it in trucks, and anybody in their right mind will tell you to start with a 4x4 instead of converting a 4x2... but where i come from you can't find a 4x4 van unless youre going to special-order it from the factory.
so if i were to find a donor truck (pickup) and take the front end, transfer case, drivelines, etc, would it be anywhere close to reasonable to think of doing such a swap, or does this put me firmly into the classification of "wac-jobs" or the like?
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Post #2 by 80broncoman » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:06 am

I belive you need the axle from a 1 ton Ford truck (HPDana 60) What years I am unsure of. and of course the a C-6 trans from a 4WD truck.
I am notsure if I heard correctly but i think you can remove the rear extesion housing from a 2wd C-6 and install the factory C-6 to t-case adaptor and bolt it to a case.
Speaking of cases if you come across a Ford NP205 get it no matter what it is out of. All ford cases have the 32 spline out put shafts. This means even if it out of a 1/2 ton you can install the yokes for a 1 ton.
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Post #3 by spikeomatic » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:07 am

4x4 vans are awesome! I Changed a short box chevy low rider into a 4x4.it seemed more practical for the WI roads around here.i was always bottoming out the lowrider.It turned into a real money pit!

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Post #4 by woodbutcher » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:14 pm

:) Hi PP.Just a thought.Why don`t you get a good rolling chassis,and put your van body on it?
Or is this a MAJOR hassel?Just my 2cents.OR,on the other hand,find a surplus 4x4 ambulance.
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Post #5 by The Plankster Prankster » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:48 pm

jim, thats very helpful, thank you... needing the axle is a given, and i hope not too hard to find with my 3.54 gears. as for the tranny, i would be very interested to know for sure if we can simply change the tailshaft housing to the extension housing or if the shafts are different... and thats good to know about the NP205.
leo, on that note, i think its worth asking, how ugly would it be to try putting a van body on a pickup frame? does everything line up, or is it a bigger custom game? i think if i were to go that route it would be on a different body, as mine is getting worn out, with all the hinges shot, a section of the roof partially collapsed, etc. so if i were to go that route, i'd probably buy a van with a blown engine or whatever, and a 4x4 diesel pickup with a bad body and combine the two without taking my daily driver out of service.

whichever route i take, i'm also looking at the fact that this van is my daily, so i can't afford to have it out of service for more than a couple of days, so that makes everything a little more complicated...
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Post #6 by bubba22349 » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:58 am

:hmmm: Do you mean like this? How to make a 4x4 Ford Van,
http://www.glinx.com/~sbest/4vanhow.htm
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