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Post #1 by falcon fanatic » Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:51 pm

I just realized I've been working on this car for twelve years. Phew! Lots of mods over that time and the latest is my long-awaited FI conversion. After a not insignificant outlay of cash I found myself in possession of an OZ head, which I ported and had rebuilt with larger valves. At the same time I took the manifold to my new favorite machinist to have injector bungs installed and to finish the adapter plate for a Jeep throttle body that I scavenged at the yard. Right now he's finishing up the details on the crank trigger wheel for the Electromotive TEC3 unit that I bought off my friend. At this point I've collected almost everything I need for the complete system. Here's some pictures:

Manifold 1:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-68mHUWWPs5w/U ... G_1618.JPG

Manifold 2:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-trIig75GlbE/U ... G_1620.jpg

Throttle body:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3YcTlgF5lkY/U ... G_1621.JPG

Assembly from rear:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JeTVDZB1QO0/U ... G_1628.JPG

Assembly from front:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eisieWRg0Mk/U ... G_1629.jpg

top view:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XH46ybue3Jo/U ... G_1630.JPG

I'm pretty stoked about this setup. Not only should it run nice and smooth, I'm expecting a big power boost. Oh, and in case your wondering, it would have cost close to the same to go with the aluminum head after all is said and done.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #2 by bmbm40 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:30 pm

Very impressed with your work and pretty sure it's going to be real quick.
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Post #3 by bubba22349 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:47 pm

:beer: congrats looks like a nice combo!
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #4 by MECH_E » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:24 am

That actually looks better than the stock 300 EFI manifolds...very nicely done.
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Post #5 by falcon fanatic » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:07 pm

I finally have the last piece I need. Now I just have to screw together the courage to begin.

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'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #6 by nickstewartroc » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:26 pm

Where did you find the trigger wheel from?

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Post #7 by rwbrooks50 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:24 pm

Nice work.

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Post #8 by dayman » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:59 pm

Like your project. Who did the work on the intake to fit the injectors and fuel rail?

What ECM are you going to use to control everything?

I put a TBI system on my 66 Mustang. I used Mega Squirt ECM to manage the fuel system.

Do you have have the system running on your car?

Do you have a list of components you have used for the build?

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Post #9 by falcon fanatic » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:13 pm

Hey Y'all,
I have all the parts and I'm ready to go, but just haven't been able to do the work yet. Will have answers to all these questions once I get it done. In the meantime, here is some info:

Trigger wheel is from DIY Fuel Injection (The Megasquirt people)
The machine work was done by a local guy, although i bought the injector bosses and the bare fuel rail from Summit.
The injectors are 5.0 injectors which I sent to RC engineering for rebuilds and calibration.
Using a Electomotive TEC III unit to control the FI and ignition.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #10 by falcon fanatic » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:24 pm

Update: Started the project finally over the weekend. Just pulled the old head and everything looks great. Got a bit more teardown to do tomorrow after work in terms of pulling the old balancer and the Z-bar throttle system and then I'll start with reassembly. It's a bit of a complex project but I'm just going to take it day by day. Pictures on the way.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
http://falconfanatic.blogspot.com/

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Post #11 by 66Sprint6 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:26 am

I will be watching this thread like a hawk as I hope to head in a similar direction here soon!!! Keep it up, cant wait to see how it runs!

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Post #12 by falcon fanatic » Tue May 26, 2015 12:28 am

Been a bit slow, but I have the head and rocker assembly installed and the intake manifold with fuel rail mocked up in place. Have yanked all the existing fuel line and electric pump and am ready to start building my fuel system using almost all braided hose. Have also tossed the original throttle pedal with the z-bar linkage and installed a Lokar cable actuated throttle pedal. Haven't run the throttle cable yet or the kickdown cable. That'll probably end up being a bit of a fabrication project although I spent the money on Lokar cables which makes it a bit easier. Also revamped my power steering pump setup by moving over to one of the nifty brackets that Classic Inlines sells. That cleaned up matters considerably. Will see about posting pictures soon.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
http://falconfanatic.blogspot.com/

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Post #13 by falcon fanatic » Tue May 26, 2015 10:27 am

Hi, anybody know if this will work to ditch my distributor. Modifications required, I know...

http://www.stockwiseauto.com/product_in ... /Model/all
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #14 by falcon fanatic » Tue May 26, 2015 10:39 pm

As promised, pictures demonstrating progress:

Timing wheel and sensor bracket:
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Close up of sensor and bracket:
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The engine with all major components (head, manifold, etc):
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Same, but with jeep snorkel attached:
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Also got the FI fuel pump installed and the beginnings of my fuel hose installation.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
http://falconfanatic.blogspot.com/

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Post #15 by bubba22349 » Tue May 26, 2015 11:06 pm

falcon fanatic wrote:Hi, anybody know if this will work to ditch my distributor. Modifications required, I know...

http://www.stockwiseauto.com/product_in ... /Model/all


I think that would work fine, and it looks like you have also made lots of progress! :thumbup:
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #16 by falcon fanatic » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:51 pm

Allright. I'm fully assembled. Car won't start and I've been running through diagnostics and finding little mistakes here and there. Mostly sensor wiring issues. Board members helped me solve my oil pump drive issues. Big thanks to thesameguy for the idea and for hooking me up with me a spare oil pump drive and to WSA111 for installing a proper distributor drive gear and a new O-ring. Engine bay a little roomier now. Look at the difference between my distributor and what replaced it:

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'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
http://falconfanatic.blogspot.com/

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Post #17 by thesameguy » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:20 pm

The size of the DUI distributor was a huge driver in me going to EDIS. I saw a couple cars at a show with those things and I did not like the big ol' dizzy hanging off the little six. ;) Crazy that a big six tower coil pack hanging off the side is more discrete, but it sure seems like it to my eyes. ;)

So, does it start now? :)

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Post #18 by falcon fanatic » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:35 pm

Nope, doesn't start yet. But I know why! It turns out the hall sensor I was using to read RPM off the crank trigger is incompatible with the TEC 2 unit. I've ordered the correct crank trigger sensor and a bracket and once I hook that up I *should* be good to go. At least I'll be good to start a proper diagnostics.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #19 by gus91326 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:19 pm

This is great stuff!

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Post #20 by falcon fanatic » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:20 pm

Update:
Okay, I've been stalled for months with a car that won't start. After extensive diagnostics I've concluded that my ECU is fried. It kinda works, but not in any predictable manner. I emailed and called Electromotive repeatedly for many weeks for an RMA# to mail the unit in for diagnostics and they haven't had the decency to reply. They did however capture my email address and start spamming me with "special offers." Really very poor.

So, I just ordered a megasquirt II. Should be here in a week so hopefully I can install that and get it running over the holidays.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #21 by falcon fanatic » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:52 pm

Woot! Wired in the Megasquirt, input some basic tuning parameters, and vroom! Now, to tune.

http://falconfanatic.blogspot.com/2016/ ... rking.html
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'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #22 by bubba22349 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:38 pm

:beer: glad to hear your making good progress! But that link isn't working? :nod:
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #23 by falcon fanatic » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:12 pm

Fixed the link!
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #24 by falcon fanatic » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:00 pm

And first drive is a success. It idles at 2500 rpm and doesn't make much power, but first time off jack stands in eight months, so I'll take it.

http://falconfanatic.blogspot.com/2016/ ... drive.html

ECU installation needs a little work, though.

http://falconfanatic.blogspot.com/2016/ ... drive.html
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #25 by gryphonclan » Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:38 pm

This is sweet!

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Post #26 by falcon fanatic » Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:42 pm

Allright, starts, runs, drives. Actually does all those things kind of well now. I have to say I've become a huge Megasquirt fan. Just drove around for a while with the auto tune feature on and guess what? It runs better now. I'll take some pictures tomorrow so y'all can see my sweet craftsmanship.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #27 by falcon fanatic » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:17 pm

March 4, 2016. So I finally got it running right on the Megasquirt system. Have to give a shout out to DIY autotune for great customer service, and to Scott aka elutionsdesign on the MSEXTRA forum for helping me with the tune. Still more tuning to go, but it starts, runs and idles as well as it ever has, so that's a good starting place.

Moved on to beautifying the engine compartment. It's not a show car, more of a test mule, so don't expect miracles, but here are some pictures of the engine bay as it stands.

Okay, can't hassle with getting the pictures to work on this forum, so here's the link to the blog post: http://falconfanatic.blogspot.com/2016/03/fi-next-steps.html
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #28 by rocklord » Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:08 pm

Any way to get your msq file?

I've got a 250 2V head for my 200 and might be interested in reproducing your setup.
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Post #29 by falcon fanatic » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:01 am

Sure. It's on my laptop at home, so that'll happen later.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #30 by falcon fanatic » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:57 pm

Smoky Explosion
So there I was, driving around refining the tune on my Megasquirt system and feeling pretty good about how well it was running when BLAM! I'm enveloped in a huge cloud of white smoke. Pull over, pop the hood and there is coolant everywhere. Fortunately I was quite close to home so I got it to the garage and put it to bed.

I'd suspected a weeping freeze plug which turned up immediately after installing this new head. Fast forward a few days and after pulling the header I find this freeze plug just lying in a nook of the header. Never heard of such a thing, but there it is. I'll be replacing this and at least one other in the next couple of days. I'll get it all back together, refine that tune a bit further, and post a new video here soon.

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'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #31 by E4ODnut » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:40 pm

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'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Post #33 by bmbm40 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:49 pm

Awesome motor!
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Post #34 by falcon fanatic » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:33 pm

Ugh! Just when everything was going great the engine started stumbling and hesitating. So far my diagnostics have turned up nothing. Really frustrated and tired of this project.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Re: Falcon Fanatic's FI conversion

Post #35 by DannyG » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:46 pm

Hopefully something easy like a fouled spark plug ?
You've done a great job in uncharted territory, it's very impressive !
Keep us posted on your progress.
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Re: Falcon Fanatic's FI conversion

Post #36 by falcon fanatic » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:14 pm

Yes, hopefully something easy. Took the week off so I don't end up "accidentally" lighting it on fire. Definitely not a plug, though, cause I can tell your they've never run so clean!
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Re: Falcon Fanatic's FI conversion

Post #37 by Econoline » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:06 am

Simply awesome work your doing here FF. I hope you find your hiccup.
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Re: Falcon Fanatic's FI conversion

Post #38 by rocklord » Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:13 pm

falcon fanatic,

Any update on your FI conversion.
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Re: Falcon Fanatic's FI conversion

Post #39 by falcon fanatic » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:39 pm

After I got everything back together from the freeze plug ejection incident the car started overheating every time I drove it. It was also hesitating. Took it to a dyno tuner and they where totally baffled by both symptoms. At this point I was so frustrated that I just parked the car and went to Burning Man. Back now, of course, and I'm just going to yank the engine and take it to a local builder for a teardown and diagnosis. As background, i had this engine rebuilt about six or seven years ago and it has always been incredibly difficult to tune (and I do know what I'm doing).

At this point I firmly believe either the cam wasn't degreed correctly by the last builder or he lied about the CR and that's why I have such poor idle vacuum and it is so hard to tune. Also, I have no idea why it is overheating. So, it is probably easier and cheaper to take it out, tear it down, degree the cam during teardown to confirm installation, and do a straight rebuild with either a milder cam (probably 260h), or install this one correctly. Then I'll do initial tune on an engine dyno to be sure it runs correctly.

If it turns out there is something major like a cracked block or some expensive head damage I may just toss this and install a J20DET with a 5-speed and have something different.
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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Re: Falcon Fanatic's FI conversion

Post #40 by fast64ranchero » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:43 am

OP, the problem you had with the Elctromotive Tec 111 was the trigger wheel, Electromotive uses a 60 tooth wheel. Keep working at it you'll get the thing working!
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Re: Falcon Fanatic's FI conversion

Post #41 by falcon fanatic » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:17 pm

Nope, because the TEC unit stopped communicating via the serial port, so the problem was bigger than just the timing wheel (though that may ALSO have been a problem).
'63 Futura Convertible. Disc/drum, Bilsteins, beefy swaybars, #480 springs, roller or spherical everything up front, HD shackles on stock springs out back. Megasquirt FI on ported, big valve aussie head w/ roller rockers; 10:1 6000rpm engine; 264/274-12*; C-4, Maverick 8" 3.25 W/trac-lok and perimeter frame inside the unibody. More to come...
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