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Starter is disengaging

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Starter is disengaging

Post #1 by JackFish » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:41 pm

Having an issue where the starter will only grab momentarily and then disengages.

It is a new starter and the battery is reading a strong 12.7v.

Could this be a solenoid issue?
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Re: Starter is disengaging

Post #2 by powerband » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:59 pm

$.02 :

Fender mounted Ford solenoid doesn't directly affect starter engagement. Starter doesn't use a solenoid to pull out the starter gear on regular Ford starters. Ford uses same starter field windings to pull starter fulcrum . Sometimes the bellcrank pin is at fault, can be worn shaft bushings or worn commutator brushes adding to current needed to operate. Often only swapping will confirm.

Modern PMGR (Permanent Magnet Gear Reduction) starters are far superior and V8 versions will fit 250's but I don't know any confirmed application for 170/200

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Re: Starter is disengaging

Post #3 by bubba22349 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:18 pm

Not the Solinod, Battery, or Starter Motor. It's the starter drive unit that's bad (bendix, it's like a one way clutch) if it's a new starter they should replace it. :nod:
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Re: Starter is disengaging

Post #4 by JackFish » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:22 pm

Thanks guys.
I will take it in to the shop.
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Re: Starter is disengaging

Post #5 by JackFish » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:10 pm

Indeed.
I swapped in one of a few spares I had and sure enough it worked great.

Too bad about the crapped out one.
I found the receipt and it's only a couple of months off a two-year warranty.
Hardly even drive the thing... :?
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Re: Starter is disengaging

Post #6 by bubba22349 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:16 pm

JackFish, you can get a new starter drive and swap it in fairly easy. You just loosen and pull the case bolts back so you pull the tail housing off then slip off the rear washer exposing the C clip knock it off the then the drive will side off. Install the new drive in reverse order. Good luck. :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: Starter is disengaging

Post #7 by JackFish » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:22 pm

I'll consider that when I exhaust my stash of spares. :)
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Re: Starter is disengaging

Post #8 by B RON CO » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:59 am

Hi, as mentioned, it was very common to change the bendix drive. You can try try one from your parts pile for the learning experience. The job is fast and easy. Good luck
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