All thats needed for C4 conversion

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All thats needed for C4 conversion

Post #1 by StarDiero75 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:11 pm

Howdy guys,

So im looking at doing either a 78' 200 into my car, or doing a C4 swap. If i do the C4 swap, the guy i can buy it from will sell all the rest of the stuff i need, minus the steering column. So, csn a 2 speed column work for the C4? Like will it move that extra spot back and all id need to change is the gear indicator? Im having a rough time trying to find one.

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Ryan
--1965 Ranchero w/1966 200 and 3.03 column shift, 8" rear 2.8 (Yes I know the gearing sucks), weber 32/36, CRT Performance HEI.
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Re: All thats needed for C4 conversion

Post #2 by chad » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:29 pm

many put it on the floor.

WHich ever U decide look 2 last wk's thread for a good list of needed items to make the switch.
Compaire it to what the guy SHOWS you (not tells U & U gotta confirm).
COMPLETE List R indeed, a very nice things to have.
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Re: All thats needed for C4 conversion

Post #3 by Econoline » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:56 pm

I don't know anything about falcons. But have you got ahold of this guy? https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/ ... 32714.html

He might have it. I'd like to know his story, or what changed... lol
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Re: All thats needed for C4 conversion

Post #4 by frozenrabbit » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:02 am

You can change the shifter detent plate in a 2 speed column to work with a C4.

Just Google 'ford falcon shifter detent plate', factory part # C5DZ-7A216-A

There is a gear indicator that fits a 2 speed column for a C4, part # C4OZ-7B033-B.

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Re: All thats needed for C4 conversion

Post #5 by StarDiero75 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:22 am

frozenrabbit wrote:You can change the shifter detent plate in a 2 speed column to work with a C4.

Just Google 'ford falcon shifter detent plate', factory part # C5DZ-7A216-A

There is a gear indicator that fits a 2 speed column for a C4, part # C4OZ-7B033-B.

Perfect. Thanks man!
--1965 Ranchero w/1966 200 and 3.03 column shift, 8" rear 2.8 (Yes I know the gearing sucks), weber 32/36, CRT Performance HEI.
--1961 Studebaker Lark VI, OHV 170 l6 in the process of being resurrected. But it lives
--Creator of the only Weber 32/36 conversion video.

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in cab changes man to auto swap

Post #6 by chad » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:38 am

how does that change the positioning inside the column of shift rods when going frm manual to automatic rods?
Would the shift collar also need to change, the lever and pivots inside the column, removal of the shift tube?
I would think a different style column would need to be sourced and fitted.

I have auto peddles so can see the difference there w/the swap. I've rebuilt a mani column but never seen much of how/what the auto 'is made of'. May B an exploded diagram could B consulted...
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
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Re: All thats needed for C4 conversion

Post #7 by frozenrabbit » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:05 am

Chad, those are parts to convert a 2-speed auto column to a C4, not a manual column.

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Re: All thats needed for C4 conversion

Post #8 by StarDiero75 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:58 pm

Yeah i plan on buying a 2spd column, then makjng it into a C4 column
--1965 Ranchero w/1966 200 and 3.03 column shift, 8" rear 2.8 (Yes I know the gearing sucks), weber 32/36, CRT Performance HEI.
--1961 Studebaker Lark VI, OHV 170 l6 in the process of being resurrected. But it lives
--Creator of the only Weber 32/36 conversion video.

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Re: All thats needed for C4 conversion

Post #9 by chad » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:05 pm

oh, jeesh, got ja.
So all that's needed 4 that - is the lill plate'n 2 speed's a 3, eh?
Whadabout the linkage inside column, same?
TV cable @ carb? linkage @ side of transmis?
Thnx.
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
Chad - '70 LUEB on '77 frame (i.e. PS, D44, trapezoidal BB 9", 4.11), 250, NV 3550 & DSII to B transplanted, "T" D20/PTO, 2" SL, 1" BL, 4 discs, 33"X15", etc. Seeking: Hydraulic gear motor for Koenig pto. chrlsful@aol.com (413) 259-1749

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