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T9 5speed instal [ pic ]

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T9 5speed instal [ pic ]

Post #1 by Guest » Sat May 27, 2006 6:02 am

i just did bolt a ford sierra T9 gearbox onto the 6 200ci,
with an adapterplate to a 2.77 belhouse . fitting great and the drive shaft is also fitting , 25 spline , and did ad the diafragma pressure plate !



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the old 3.03 V8 bak .
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3 finger style pressure plate , now up is the diafragma plate with the wright pilot bearing
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with this T9 going in .

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bolting on the diafragma setup
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its realy shifting great now , en pedal pressure is verry easy and verry smooth to handel and give the wright proportion .
driving realy great now , verry fast pickup in gears , and the 5t gear is great for highway driving [ i got 2.87 rear gear , did want to change to 3.52 but seems to be this setup is working great ]

tis is realy fun now to drive , also did the clutch fork with making bearings into it , so no more shattering ore wabbeling from the fork , verry smooth handeling. cars takes of verry fast, smooth shifting , clutch is perfect , and picking up in the gears is also great !!
the T9 did cost me here in holland about 100€ luckly it came wit an almost new clutch plate !! adapterplate is 10M/M steel 52, fitting a 2.77 bellhouse .

did get an V6 2.8 gearbox 4 speed from a friend an seems to be it is almost the same messering , i wil gone try to make a adapter plate for this box also , there are cheap to buy , fully sycronisized , smooth shifting , and better then the orginal 3 speed ! and much ford parts wil fit . like km cable and yoke !

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Post #2 by Mustang Boy » Sat May 27, 2006 8:44 am

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Post #3 by CoupeBoy » Wed May 31, 2006 5:47 pm

Great work! Is that a belt drive bicycle?

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Post #4 by Guest » Wed May 31, 2006 5:58 pm

bicycle ? yea belt drive variomatik with tip toets 7 speed gear selection fully computer controld , 6 sec stop and automatik shift down to any gear you want and lots of more . disk brakes , oil/air adjustible shocks . home made as you can see in the pic . 1 of my other projects , i also build bicycle,s .

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Post #5 by XFlow_Fairlane » Wed May 31, 2006 8:10 pm

so how well did the T9 bolts line up? I kno won my XR4 that the T9 bolts from inside the bell and the T5 from outside....I still have a rocket? 4 speed version of a T9 laying around....
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Post #6 by Stubby » Wed May 31, 2006 8:36 pm

I saw that bike also!!! Come on, post up some pics in the Saloon. 8)

I also like bikes. OK, I admit, it's more like a fetish for bicycles :lol:

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Post #7 by Geezer 300 » Wed May 31, 2006 10:08 pm

Good visual presentation. Thanks.
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Post #8 by Guest » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:22 am

this is a T9 5 speed gearbox from an euro ford sierra .
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this whas the prototype setup , with the old adapterplate , new 1 is differend.

with an 10 M/M adapterplate , it stil have the correct spline lengte output for getting in the crank wheel an pilot bearing ,
then it is a bolt on to a 2.77 bellhouse , crossmember is to be made costum .
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10M/M steel 52 adapter plate

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Post #9 by chazthephoenix » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:32 pm

next time I go to Holland, I am going to look you up and check this whole bad ass car out...

chaz

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Post #10 by Guest » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:30 pm

ahhaahh your welkom , i live in a wood, in a wooden hous , verry rare here in holland , always got 2 rooms over for gast !

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Post #11 by loop » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:13 pm

hello
I got a T9 from at Sierra with a 2 litre sohc. Is is the same? Will it fit the same way? Is my 68 Falcon 200 3-spd a 2.77 or a 3.03?


My english is crap so a dont understand everything.

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Post #12 by rbohm » Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:25 pm

loop wrote:hello
I got a T9 from at Sierra with a 2 litre sohc. Is is the same? Will it fit the same way? Is my 68 Falcon 200 3-spd a 2.77 or a 3.03?


My english is crap so a dont understand everything.


8) loop, an easy way to tell if you have the 2.77 tranny is to count the bolts on the top cover. 4 bolts = 2.77 trans 9 bolts = 3.03 trans.

i would say however that likely you have the 3.03 trans since your falcon is a 68.
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Post #13 by loop » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:16 pm

rbohm wrote:
loop wrote:hello
I got a T9 from at Sierra with a 2 litre sohc. Is is the same? Will it fit the same way? Is my 68 Falcon 200 3-spd a 2.77 or a 3.03?


My english is crap so a dont understand everything.


8) loop, an easy way to tell if you have the 2.77 tranny is to count the bolts on the top cover. 4 bolts = 2.77 trans 9 bolts = 3.03 trans.

i would say however that likely you have the 3.03 trans since your falcon is a 68.


is it some diffrens between the bellhouses? Lenght?

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Re: T9 5speed instal [ pic ]

Post #14 by 66conv6cyl » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:43 am

Hi. This conversion is very interesting. My plan was to install a T5 but they are rare in Europe and these T9's are awailable everwhere.
I will therefore convert to a T9 and I will like to contact this dutch guy "guest". I doesn't seem like he is on this forum ??
It looks like ha has a prototype of this adapter plate.

..anyway. If there is anybody else who know anything about the subject pls send me a pm or a mail <email deleted>

I have looked at the pictures and studied some informastion on the net. My 2.77 bellhouse is 135 mm long. with this adapter plate it will be 145 mm. The lenght of the drive shaft is (from what I remember) 167 mm? on eurpean versions. That leaves a drive shaft tom from bellhousing at 22 mm compared to 12 mm in the original setup. That is no problem for the pilot baring as there are plenty of space behind it but I wonder if there is different types of bellhauses for the 2,77? Mine is from a -65 Galaxie. I also got a 69 bellhouse which is approx 160 mm long.
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Post #15 by Asa » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:24 am

66conv6cyl wrote:I will like to contact this dutch guy "guest". I doesn't seem like he is on this forum ??

If this poster is who I think it was, he was a guy that had his own machine shop setup, would make a buttload of stuff, even started selling some of his designs

The problem came about when he failed to follow through with sending the parts after he accepted the money, eventually it got to the point where he had burned enough of us that he was banned from the forum because of it.
I got a shock tower support setup from him. If you want, I can dig through my emails and see if I still have any of his contact info, but there might be a safer way to do it


edit: also, as a general safety item, I'd advise not posting your email openly, spambots will steal it. If you need to post it, do something like knutob at gmail.com
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Post #16 by MPGmustang » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:49 am

I just deleted it... there have been spam bots lately so just being safe
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Post #17 by Asa » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:54 am

Gmail has the best spam policy I've ever seen, so I wouldn't be too concerned, but better safe than sorry.
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Re: T9 5speed instal [ pic ]

Post #18 by 66conv6cyl » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:08 pm

Asa wrote:I got a shock tower support setup from him. If you want, I can dig through my emails and see if I still have any of his contact info, but there might be a safer way to do it

Thanks for all info. I will really apreciate it. I just think that this t9 conversion is just a brilliant idea.
And if you know any other t9 conversions on inline Mustangs pls contact me.

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Post #19 by XFlow_Fairlane » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:03 pm

looks like he just used a 10mm plate to bolt it in.....really if you drop off a 3speed bell and trans and the T9 with any decent machinist he will be able to make it work for you.

I had a kinda local guy make up a spacer plate for the T5 in the fairlane. cost was a little high (he cut me a break on the next job though)

I had a T9 in my XR4Ti.....was a fun little car for the summer.

it also depends on what you want to spend....T5's are pretty cheap here in the states. You could get one shipped over with all the bolt in parts for the swap for your existing 3 speed setup. all depends on your budget and skill level
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Post #20 by xctasy » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:56 am

The N type transmission was the last follow on from the Dagenham, the Mk III Consul/Zephyr/Zodiac 62-66. Its predesessor was the Type 5 Ford trans (72-82), which still has the hard dimensions and componentry of the Dagenham; you can use 90% of that stuff in the earlier box, even rework the awfull 2.2:1 second gear with a much nicer 1.85:1. The N type (T9) is not the same as the Dagenham and Type 5, but it uses the same hard dimensions. Its peak torque load in a 2800 pound car which isn't towing trailers is 278 Nm (205 lb-ft) according to Tickford. The most of the earlier Type 5 gear clusters, front input shaft is interchangable with the Dagenham , although there were a few differences between Pinto/Essex/Cologne

With the T9, the 2.3/2.6/2.8/2.9 Cologne V6 ran a spacer, the Pinto 1300/1600/1800/2000 Sierra/Cortina didn't, the 2.5 and 3.0 Essex V6 didn't have a spacer. The spacer is 0.625" (16 mm or so) and that's where a 10 mm adaptor comes in handy. The gearbox isn't a sweet shifter, but dimesnions, the ratios and torque capability are perfect for an early I6 Stang or Falcon
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