Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

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Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

Post #1 by schaferstephen » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:26 am

Hey all,

I FINALLY installed the disc kit I bought a couple years ago from http://www.discbrakeswap.com/. The spindles and rotors installed beautifully, but I'm having an issue with the tie rods... The tie rods that came with the kit are larger/longer than my original tie rods (I have the I6 front end, swapping to V8 spindles). So... My question is... Do I need to swap out more steering components, idler arm, what have you? I do want to go with a V8 front end... Do I need different tie rods with some conversion to the Granada spindles?

Any advice is welcome... As always, I appreciate your feedback. Sorry if this doesn't provide a lot of information, I'm on a rig 250 miles southeast of Galveston.. haha!
1965 Coupe, 250 block bored 40 over, CI Alum head w/ street/strip port and polish, 49cc chambers, 500 cvf 4V Edelbrock, 300 forged rods, custom RaceTec forged pistons w/ 15cc dishes, Yella Terra full roller 1.65 rockers, 274/274/108 Hyd. cam, V8 T5 courtesy of Modern Drivelines.

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Re: Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

Post #2 by bubba22349 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:09 am

Generally yes you will also need to swap all the steering parts over to the V8 parts too when using V8 or the Granada spindles. I.E. the tie rods, center link, idler arm, steering arm, and sometimes the steering box depending on its shaft Dia. Depending on what year car your working on say like an early Falcon or Comet (1964 or older) then the 1965 up Falcon V8 steering parts will offer some improvement in Geometry and better handling.

The exception though is that if you really wanted to keep the 6 cylinder steering parts you still can, by getting a set of Tie Rod bushing adapters from Mustang Steve. Good luck :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

Post #3 by schaferstephen » Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:22 pm

Hmm... Okay. What's your advice? I have the complete tie rods, a couple other pieces... I want to say idler arm? But I'd need a center link and I think steering arm and maybe the box... This is just a street car. Do you think I would be better off going to V8 steering?
1965 Coupe, 250 block bored 40 over, CI Alum head w/ street/strip port and polish, 49cc chambers, 500 cvf 4V Edelbrock, 300 forged rods, custom RaceTec forged pistons w/ 15cc dishes, Yella Terra full roller 1.65 rockers, 274/274/108 Hyd. cam, V8 T5 courtesy of Modern Drivelines.

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Re: Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

Post #4 by bubba22349 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:32 pm

If it was me and say I was building a 1961 to 1964 Falcon or Comet I would change it all over to the 1965 up V8 Falcon parts I would also use a later model steering box and steering column like a 1968 up for safety sake or even go with the Granada steering box, plus then do the Shelby LCA drop. Though you may not need to change the steering box if it has the same sector shaft Outside Diameter as the V8 steering arm. Again I don't know what year car your are working on but if it happens to be a 1965 or newer one then maybe you could just use the Tie Rod bushings and be fine. Good luck :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

Post #5 by schaferstephen » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:00 pm

Oops sorry, forgot to say it's a 65 Mustang. I'll check into the part prices and go from there. Thanks!
1965 Coupe, 250 block bored 40 over, CI Alum head w/ street/strip port and polish, 49cc chambers, 500 cvf 4V Edelbrock, 300 forged rods, custom RaceTec forged pistons w/ 15cc dishes, Yella Terra full roller 1.65 rockers, 274/274/108 Hyd. cam, V8 T5 courtesy of Modern Drivelines.

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Re: Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

Post #6 by bubba22349 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:46 pm

The 1965 Mustang got the improved front end parts and Geometry of the 1965 Falcons so you would be fine staying with them for a daily type driver. Now if you want to go Auto Crossing or some other type racing then by all means swap in the stronger V8 steering parts too. Good luck :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

Post #7 by schaferstephen » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:39 am

Roger that. Sooo... Does that mean I'd use my old tie rods, and get that adapter to make them up to the Granada spindles?
1965 Coupe, 250 block bored 40 over, CI Alum head w/ street/strip port and polish, 49cc chambers, 500 cvf 4V Edelbrock, 300 forged rods, custom RaceTec forged pistons w/ 15cc dishes, Yella Terra full roller 1.65 rockers, 274/274/108 Hyd. cam, V8 T5 courtesy of Modern Drivelines.

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Re: Tie rods with V8 spindle swap?

Post #8 by bubba22349 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:10 am

Yes being a street car that would be a good option and would likely be very low cost especially if all the existing parts on the car are still in good serviceable condition. However if money isn't tight or the current steering parts are about worn out then if you wanted to go all the way the full V8 steering setup and since you already have some of those parts that would make spence too. Good luck :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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