Next project, breaks

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Next project, breaks

Post #1 by Reinking » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:25 am

While I am waiting for the head for my 63 falcon to come back I am planning my next project, breaks. Planning to keep the original 9 X 2.25 all around ( I know, upgrade to disk but my son is a stickler for originality). I have found all the parts but am a little confused as to which size wheel cylendars to use. I have looked in the shop manual and am still unclear. Also, any recomendations for break shoes?

The car is a 63 Falcon Convertable with a 170cid engine

Any other tips always appreciated.

Thanks

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Post #2 by B RON CO » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:10 am

Hi, when I need parts I usually check the old Ford vendor guys, and Napa and Advance on line.
I know I've seen a Falcon specialist on line.
Advance lists 9" and 10" shoes, and front and rear wheel cylinders. I saw 2 sizes for the rear, the Falcon wagons using a bigger cylinder.
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Post #3 by chad » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:40 pm

when R&R meant remove'n repair we honed out the WC, cut/flaired lines etc.
Now R&R means remove and replace. The local big box store should have it all inexpensively, bring it the part if U must (they do all sort of crazy sourcin). On line will add: $due to shipping and delay due to time.
The local autozone delivers here. I look online (@them) 1st to ck the pic for a match w/the part so as to avoid mistakes.
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Re: Next project, breaks

Post #4 by woodbutcher » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:27 am

:hmmm: The good thing about buying new is,if a WC or MC fails and you have a wreck,the seller and their supplier is liable.If you rebuild and that happens,hope you have deep pockets or a darned good insurance policy.
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Post #5 by CZLN6 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:30 am

Howdy Reinking:

I'm curious, have you disassembled and measured your drums? The reason I ask is because the standard drum width on a '63 Falcon is 9x1.5". Some station wagons and Rancheros came with 9x2.25" width drums. Maybe convertibles got an upgrade too. It is best to disassemble to verify what you have.

For safety, be sure to upgrade flex hoses. I know your son prefers originality but I'd strongly suggest upgrading to a '67 dual bowl master cylinder. Done right it will be stock in appearance and add another level of safety to a stock, original car.

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Post #6 by rbohm » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:13 pm

following david recommendation to upgrade to the 67 dual bowl master cylinder, i did this with my 64 falcon and it was easy, i also recommend that you upgrade to the V8 wheel cylinders on all four corners. again i did this with my 64 falcon and it made a difference.
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Re: Next project, breaks

Post #7 by Reinking » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:22 pm

Thank you all for the information. Yes, I have pulled the drums and it has 2.25 all around. Will a dual chamber fit without modification to the shock tower? Space seems kind of tight?

Thanks again

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Re: Next project, breaks

Post #8 by chad » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:36 pm

that'n redrillin firewall holes will B the finer points.
No matter, I'd upgrade (also do the frnt discs as it's so easy).
My suggestion - start another thread askin which dual MC has fewest mods for installation (not sure when they went to that).

I have a Mark Xxxxx of some sort (I guess it's a Lincoln - late 70s early 80s?) in my bronk for these very reasons. No ! new holes in the fire wall, just bolted in.
Hope U get the same luck!
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Re: Next project, breaks

Post #9 by rbohm » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:43 pm

Reinking wrote:Thank you all for the information. Yes, I have pulled the drums and it has 2.25 all around. Will a dual chamber fit without modification to the shock tower? Space seems kind of tight?

Thanks again


mine fit with no problem. the nice thing is that ford used the same bolt pattern on master cylinders across the car and truck lines, so they all bolt in place, even up through today.

as for issues with clearance to the shock tower, some people will have issues, i didnt. mine is a tight fit though. the biggest problem is when you decide you want power brakes, and that is where the clearance issues crop up.
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