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Frame support

Post #1 by Humpbackshooter » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:23 pm

Hi fellow horsemen. In the words of.......I don't know who said it but....there's no stupid questions, only stupid mistakes....here goes. How do I go about putting my 67 coupe on a rack that can be rolled around and still be able to work under it? I'm getting ready to start a brake conversion for the front and at the same time pull the rear axles and have them punched to 5 lug. But I want to be able to move the car around my garage too. I have seen a few of the YouTube videos that have some very neat frame supports and stuff. But they are doing complete resto's on the car. I'm only pulling the rear end and replacing the brakes. No restoration at this time. I'm pulling the rear end so I can clean it up. That will one less thing that will have to be done later. No doors are being removed. No fenders, etc., etc. BUT i don want to twist the frame. If I build a rack that will set between the wheels, I feel that will let the front sag. Same with the back. When I have put it up on jack stands.....I usually place the stands under the axles and up next to the front wheels. Only thing is......can't be moved. Sooooooooo, that's where I stand. Trying to do something out of the ordinary. Need some expert advice. :beer:

Pics would be nice :thumbup:

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Re: Frame support

Post #2 by mustang6 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:14 pm

If you want to be able to move it around while up in the air you might have to make something custom. I think the danger aspect of having wheels that can hold the weight, move freely, and not make a heavy object that is top-heavy prone to tipping over keeps most lifting devices stationary.

Devices like the body x-jacks are relatively portable themselves, so you could maybe combine with under-wheel rollers to be able to move your car around on the ground, move the lift under it, lift up and down, then roller your car back somewhere.

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Re: Frame support

Post #3 by Humpbackshooter » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:28 pm

Thanks 6. I like that lift for Northern. I was thinking something along the lines of the 4 wheel dollies. Only with something tied to the frame to keep it stiff.

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Post #4 by bubba22349 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:50 pm

You might consider installing a set of weld in sub frame connectors that would stiffen up the chassis real good so it doesn't twist or flex. Then you would also have a much stronger chassis points to use for support and at that point you could make a homemade frame Cradle / Dollie with some big caster wheels to roll it around on. Good luck :nod:
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Re: Frame support

Post #5 by Humpbackshooter » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:13 am

Bubba......is there any pics of these? ill see if Google has any pics.

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Post #6 by mustang6 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:33 pm

Scott

68 Mustang 200 ci, 250-2V head, H/W 5200, Dual Headers, Comp Cams 252H, DSII w/ MSD 6AL, T-5, V8 suspension.

65 Ranchero 200 ci, late 170 head, Autolite 1101, 3.03 3 speed, Maverick 8" 4 lug rear with 3.55 gears.

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Post #7 by bubba22349 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:04 am

The sub frame connectors can be found easy enough made by a quite few companies and many price ranges the link is for one example.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Tin-Man-Fabricati ... aQoduoMI3w

The chassis cradle that I used for many years was something I welded up out of Angle Iron with some large caster wheels of about 5 or 6 inches in diameter. It measured about 60 inches long and about 42 inches wide, don't have any pictures of it and when I moved I had to leave it behind. The picture mustang6 posted is good design too and would work well on a concrete floor. This is a good design too.

http://www.eastwood.com/autotwirler-bod ... aQodHmUC5Q

Good luck :nod:
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Re: Frame support

Post #8 by Humpbackshooter » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:16 am

I like that too "6". I was thinking of something like this though......
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Re: Frame support

Post #9 by Humpbackshooter » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:19 am

My only concern is the weight on the front end. I will still have the engine in the car. Don't want any twisting of the frame.

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Post #10 by Humpbackshooter » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:41 am

I was thinking of doing something like this and adding a brace to the front to support the engine.
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Post #11 by bubba22349 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:49 am

As long as the body structure is still fulley intact and in sound condition (i.e. Not rusted out) there wouldn't be a need for an extra front support brace. That's a nice frame cradle and with it being mounted so as its supporting it under both the front & rear chassis Torque Boxes it should be very good. The mounting points should be as wide as possible so it close to the suspension mounting points. A good easy place for rear cradle mounts would be into the rear springs front eye mounting bracket, mount the front of the cradle as close as you can get to the front suspention centerline. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #12 by Humpbackshooter » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:23 pm

Bubba.....the frame and body are in great shape. So there shouldn't be any problems. Come to think of it....rotisseries do the same thing with out the support in the middle. But there in no motor in the car too. I'll most likely go with the 4 wheel dollies. Pick a couple of set up down @ HF. Then do some mods on them.
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Re: Frame support

Post #13 by bubba22349 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:20 pm

That's excellent Humpbackshooter, that should be a good plan going forward! Good luck :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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Post #14 by Humpbackshooter » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:41 pm

Just a follow up to the dollies. The ones down at HF didn't work like I wanted them to. So I found some 1\4" plate at work and ordered some wheels. Well the 1st set of wheels came in and I mounted them to the plate. Put the car on them and the weight of the front end (remember, the motor is still in the car) caused the wheel to bend. They were not heavy enough. SOOOOOO I ordered some more from Amazon and put them on. All is good now. Pic to come.

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Post #15 by Humpbackshooter » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:06 pm

Here's what I have.

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Post #16 by bubba22349 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:04 am

:beer: nice job :thumbup: :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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