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Post #1 by turbocortina » Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:22 am

gday people just wondering if anyone can help me out, trying to work out what model and year falcon my 250 crossflow came out of, code is JG31XS, any help much appreciated, cheers

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Post #2 by xctasy » Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:23 am

JG31XS is a Geelong made JG, Broadmedows assembled 31 Wagon engine, Sept 80 (x= 80, s=Sept).


See discokin6's posts, and look further at

http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19308&highlight=#19308

addo has the best code breaker, but it looks like its logged off at the moment. http://www.fomoco.com.au/

My Pano runs JG45XB,( 45 = Panel Van, X=80, B= second month, Feb)

If its a Gold Coast/Brissy assembley, its JL, but still made at Geelong.
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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Post #3 by turbocortina » Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:05 am

cheers mate, so its from an xd wagon?... interesting thats where my diffs from too, but that had a 351, lucky me picked up the 28 spline 4 pinion disc brake rear end for $250

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Post #4 by xctasy » Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:46 am

Yup, its XD. The Xpedient Demise was made from March 1979 to March 1982 or so. Should be alloy head.
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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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250 id

Post #5 by selwonk » Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:58 am

my engine number is JH71CG79800C. any ideas what this is out of?the donk currently is a resident in me old xf shopping trolley!!

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Re: 250 id

Post #6 by xctasy » Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:48 am

selwonk wrote:my engine number is JH71CG79800C. any ideas what this is out of?the donk currently is a resident in me old xf shopping trolley!!


Care of addo and discokin6

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J= Australian Ford

H = Assembley plant Code. Don't know about the type of streamlined plant alterations after 1985. The Geelong plant was rejigged after the Clevleand was axed in 1983.

71, body type, I don't know what it is. Could be a Fairlane or LTD

C = Year code (C is 84);

G = Date code (G is April)

The 4.1 engine was also being made for the F150 and Bronco, but only till 1985, so its likely to be nothing other than a Falc, Monty, Fairline or LTD. Can't remember when the Falcon based Nissan Ute came out.

Kiwi cars got codes like MEA for exports, then the JG or JL or JH no.

I've got JC 31BT 313520 for a 83DA 6015 block. It was a wagon too!

I've got JG45XB for a 76 DA 6015 block. It was a Panel van

I've got JG 35GB 55777 for a 84 DA 6015 block. It was from an EFI Fairmont Ghia, I think.

Looks like

22 is a base Falcon

23 is a Falcon 500


31 is Wagon

32 is base sedan (although some have said its a Fairmont Ghia)

33 is a Fairmont, Futura or GT sedan

34 ??is Fairmont Wagon

35 is Fairmont Ghia

45 is Panel Van

61? Fairlane

71? LTD

The codes were shown in Muscle Numbersin Australian Muscle car, and the rest is from cars I wrecked lately!.
Last edited by xctasy on Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Post #7 by addo » Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:05 am

Went through your list with my sources added!

I get:

10 is Futura hardtop

11 is Futura Sedan

12 is Futura Taxi (rare and only up to XP - never seen one in life)

22 is a base Falcon (usu. taxi) (prior was Deluxe Hardtop)

23 is a Falcon 500 / Falcon GL

24 is Falcon 500 / Falcon GL taxi pack

30 is standard Falcon wagon

31 is Falcon 500 / Falcon GL Wagon

32 is Fairmont GXL / Ghia sedan

33 is a Falcon GT

34 is Fairmont sedan

35 is Fairmont wagon

45 is Panel Van

61? Fairlane

65 is Falcon 500 Hardtop

66 is Falcon GT Hardtop

67 is Fairmont Hardtop

71? LTD
Deadline - What Deadline?

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Post #8 by xctasy » Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:26 am

Top man for a guy from Down Under! :P
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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Post #9 by GASSED260 » Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:42 am

Do these nombers mean anything to ya
CG81UB15583C

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Post #10 by xctasy » Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:57 am

GASSED260 wrote:Do these nombers mean anything to ya
CG81UB15583C


September 1978, Code 81 is, what, a Landau or F150 or Bronco or Cortina or Transit.

CG looks a little odd. Its Geelong assembeled, but C is a code fro another country.

Most likely JG81UB etc etc.

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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Post #11 by addo » Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:17 am

What about:
FU11YS1C8R0
Deadline - What Deadline?

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250 id

Post #12 by selwonk » Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:41 pm

all the cortina's i've seen have CG in their engine number!!!!maybe the C means cast iron head and G means geelong?who knows?a couple of my old log motors also started with CG.one was from xb falcon and one was in td cortina.most falcon's started with JG,JH,JL,JJ.bloody ford just does it that way to screw us all up!!!cheers

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Post #13 by xctasy » Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:17 pm

Imported engine assemblies

I was in bed last night and then it hit me! If its a four, Australians never made it in there own country. I don't even think Ford made Mazda engines for Telstar, Ecconovans, Meteors, Lasers, Capri FWD, Festivas etc in Australia, they were made in Taiwan, if I'm not mistaken. Autrorama, the Sino Australian Ford branch, did the design and building of the cars with Mazda.

If its a European Ford, like the 1977 on wards Cortinas (really a Taunaus with a huge percentage of Aussie content), then C is for Cologne, where the Germans made the last of the 2000 cc OHC engines.

81 is Cortina.

Look at the code picture in the above posts, and it'll give you the data of assembly!


Early Aussie Engines:

Early engines, like my 200 XR Falcon engine, had no letter code except a F on the top left of the block,
then a body and year code (22h6),
then an engine number (G2272) code on another label,

making it an F 22H6 G2272, with a generic part number code of ARC6DE 6015 -D for the block. The AR codes spell an early log engine made in Australia.

British Fords:

Early pre 1976 Ford 2000's, the Cortina, Capri, Transit, Escort may have had a F or B for Britian, where Pinto 2000 engines in the Rwd Capri 1 and II's and Cortinas came from originally. After that, Ford Britan pulled the pin on making them in there Dagenham plant. The Kent and Essex plants got closed down, with tooling sent to South Africa in the early 80's.
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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Post #14 by GASSED260 » Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:00 am

Here's a pic of the number
just to prove im not a day tripper

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Post #15 by Guest » Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:37 pm

Good call XECUTE, that was my next guess, lol

Heres something thats been playing on my mind too. Feburary '89 panelvan built in QLD, 6FPAAAJL42KU17047. I've seen the six digit alphanumeric prefix on later model fords too, so my guess is they extended it over the Blackwood based falcon utility range. I just haven't come across any data that states wether or not any more information about the vehicle lies in the VIN prefix, though. The engine block does not carry the prefix, vis a vis OHC motors. Any ideas?

edit:
42 seems to be GL Panelvan. Was the van a surferoo or sundowner van xecute?

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Post #16 by xctasy » Sun Oct 03, 2004 4:58 am

It was a 45 for sure. Has S pack, 4.1, had a 4-speed, S-pack instruments, bib spoiler, 10 hole wheels, heavy duty suspension, fog lights, full ADR compliance plate, but all the emissions bits are blocked off. It was orginally Barbados Green or something, with an O paint code

LPG system lookes like a dealer installed item.

Maybee it was for the cops!

And its not a CKD New Zealand kit.

42, add that to the list!
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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Post #17 by addo » Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:14 am

There you is:
Has S pack
We can now say 45 is S-Pack Panel Van
Deadline - What Deadline?

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Post #18 by turbocortina » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:14 am

all the cortys ive had/seen have had the CG prefix so i reckon C must be from the cortys....

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Post #19 by CHIPPY » Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:40 am

what about this engine code?
is this from a cortina?

0g60yc
82321c

thats as it appears just near my drivers side engine mount.
thanks heaps.
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Post #20 by xctasy » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:47 am

Most likely that the O is a C.

Obviously, there was a Holden worker from Pagewood wielding the CG punch so jolly hard it made a OG....

I've done a literature search. A Mr Burgess a nasty Pom, said in a UK Car article in 1982. "Aussie made Family 2 engines have been suffering sparking plug problems. Some hairy @rsed cobber on the production line overtightened all the plugs...." :P :P

:oops: Seriously, I don't know what 82 is bar being an S-pack Cortina or Wagon?. Now I'm guessing :?: :?: :roll: :roll: . It lookes like

81 is L

82 is S

83 is GL

84 is Ghia
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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Post #21 by CamZH » Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:52 am

Hey Guys,
I've got another number for you !
63, its on my ZL and from memory was on both of my ZH Marquis'

cheers,
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Post #22 by addo » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:03 pm

Good stuff! Can you provide any exactitudes on the model of your ZL - pack/spec etc?

71 is also pretty confirmed as LTD (back in the RR front era).

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Post #23 by ZC-Cruiser » Wed May 04, 2005 7:41 am

OK - I have an Alloy Head six in my ZC (has a Gem Engines sticker on the rocker cover and I got it from a mate who had it in his XY sedan)

On the block near the alternator where the engine no goes, it simply has FFO17 - what the?

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Post #24 by xctasy » Wed May 04, 2005 7:57 am

FFO17. There should be some other numbers there too.

Since it's not Cortina, it could only be the locally assembled F100! The alloy head didn't make it to the Transit, as it got replaced by the Ford Econovan when the pound sterling went through the roof in the early 1980's. It was uneconomic to assemble.

Just a guess!

It's like addos

FU11YS
1C8R0
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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Post #25 by ZC-Cruiser » Wed May 04, 2005 8:59 am

xtaxi wrote:FFO17. There should be some other numbers there too.

Since it's not Cortina, it could only be the locally assembled F100! The alloy head didn't make it to the Transit, as it got replaced by the Ford Econovan when the pound sterling went through the roof in the early 1980's. It was uneconomic to assemble.

Just a guess!

It's like addos

FU11YS
1C8R0


Nope - that is all that's there.
Also, on the rear engine lifting thingy, it has XF written in that white paint pen that wrecking yards like to use, so it's a bit of a mystery...

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Post #26 by addo » Wed May 04, 2005 9:19 am

Anything on the rear, where XYs and so on had their serial?

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Post #27 by ZC-Cruiser » Wed May 04, 2005 9:25 am

addo wrote:Anything on the rear, where XYs and so on had their serial?
Not sure where you mean??

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Post #28 by addo » Wed May 04, 2005 10:01 am

Here:

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Post #29 by ZC-Cruiser » Wed May 04, 2005 10:06 am

addo wrote:Here:

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Oh yes, like on the Windsor - I'll look tomorrow - off to bed now...

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Post #30 by P100 Ute » Tue May 10, 2005 10:56 am

i have a Cortina and this is on my rego for it and on the VIN plate
this is the details on it and the Engine # (its same as VIN/Chassis)

Make: Ford
Model: CRTINA (Cortina)
Body: Sedan
Year: 1977
Colour: GN (Green)
Tare 1188kg
Cyl: 6 (4.1L)
Fuel: PET (Petrol)
VIN #: CG58TR38007C

Block is Cast Iron :P TUFF

i looked on google. found a 2.0L (4 Cyl) if it helps u try and Descipher the codes

Make: Ford
Model: CRTINA (Cortina)
Cyl 4 (2.0L)
VIN #: CG56XC53084R
Built May 1980
ADR: 27A

hope that helps ?

*Start EDIT*
Adding Link i found on google

http://www.axisuniversal.com.au/

this link is for a site that has a database of all Australia VIN's

*Quote*
Axis has built a database that structures vehicle information into Make, Model, Derivative, Model Year, Specification, Standard Features and Options. Each and every vehicle identity i.e. Make, Model, Derivative, Year and Specification is coded with our own code. This easily identifies the vehicle and enables matching to other codes.

Below is an example of the type of information that can be extrapolated from a VIN code

VIN: 6H8VRK19HSL768159

6 = Australia
H8 = Holden
VR = VR or VRII Series
K = Commodore
19 = Sedan 4 Door
H = 3.8 Litre Fuel Injection Petrol
S= 1994 or 1995
L768159 = Build number

*End EDIT*

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Post #31 by P100 Ute » Tue May 10, 2005 11:24 am

VIN Decoder for Capri

their numbers all start in UL

http://www.pcug.org.au/~jcarroll/capri/vincode.htm

Sample VIN: UL 01 LR 83339
ch1: Product Source (for Capri, always U = Japan)
ch2: Assembly Plant (for Capri, always L = Broadmeadows)
ch3-4: Body type (Unclear, but the pattern appears to be 01 = Standard; 03 = Turbo; AU = XR2/Barchetta/Clubsprint)
ch5-6: Year & month manufactured (eg. LR = 1990, Oct - see table below)
ch7-11: Serial No.

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Post #32 by chubs » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:29 am

I've got an engine number:
84DA6015AA

... any ideas what this is?

Also, the head has C1 stamped on it. I've been told this is an EFI head... right?

I don't know what engine i've got, and i need to know so i can get the right parts for it.
Thanks!

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Post #33 by addo » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:42 am

That's an XD/E block number! :stick:

Not sure on the head. We did post some stuff a few years ago.

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Post #34 by chubs » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:48 am

So its NOT an xf? In that case, i've got some ammo to resolve the case with the bugger who sold it to me...

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Post #35 by addo » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:51 am

Well, that's the casting number. Wot's the cereal number? Look either at the top back near the water temp sensor and oil pressure, or on a little pad on the block side, down from the oil pressure sender.

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Post #36 by Vaughano » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:51 am

So its NOT an xf? In that case, i've got some ammo to resolve the case with the bugger who sold it to me...


Careful, don't shoot from the hip, it could be from an '85 leaded model.
My XF had an 84DA from memory (I just sold it last week so I can't be sure) which was definitely the original engine (same engine number as body).

I'm not 100% on this, but find out before you go shooting anyone. :lol:

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Post #37 by Fingers » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:37 am

In fact, 84DA could only be from a very late XE or an early XF.
Too many projects, Too little money.
'96 Futura 4.0 OHC Turbo?
'92 Falcon XR6
'76 F100 351C
'76 Citroen CX 2400
'70 Valiant 4 door 265 Hemi
'70 Valiant Hardtop 318
'69 Valiant 225 slant 4 door x 6
'69 Valiant Wagon 225 slant
'64 Falcon 200, C4, 3.00 8"
'60 IHC AA110 pick up
and lots more........

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Post #38 by Vaughano » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:00 pm

As I recall the 84DA block had the first neoprene rear main seal, as opposed to the rope seal used in the 83DA.

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Post #39 by chubs » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:03 pm

Damn - so this means i'll need to run that additive in the petrol, because its a leaded engine.

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Post #40 by addo » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:10 pm

No, it means you didn't go back and get the REAL engine number for us. :lol:

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Post #41 by chubs » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:14 pm

I swear i had a look for it last night! Where is it? :oops:

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Post #42 by addo » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:25 pm

Struth! Look at what's normally the passenger side rear, when installed in a car. Just below and to the left of the oil pressure sender is a bevelled pad about 2" long. The number MAY be there.

Otherwise, look on the TOP EDGE where a car bellhousing bolts up, near the water temperature sender. They will be a milled flat with a number.

http://www.phlegm.us/FordSix/addo/2nd2V_Serial_2.jpg

http://www.phlegm.us/FordSix/addo/Serial_Location.jpg

:wink:

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Post #43 by chubs » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:33 pm

Gee i bet you guys all thing i'm a total cheesebrain :lol:
Bingo! i found it in a photo. Its under the exhaust manifold for some reason, up the front (timing case end) of the engine.
Looks like JG23??762260 ... i'll get a closer look when i go home later.

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Post #44 by chubs » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:34 pm

Here it is:
JG23FB 76226C
and that last 'C' could possibly be an 0, too.

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Post #45 by addo » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:50 pm

Falcon sedan, block stamped in May '85.

Official introduction of the XF was in October 2004.

Hmm...

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Re: Aussie Log / 2v /Xflow block ID numbers

Post #46 by TUFF72 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:00 pm

Hi guys can someone break this code:

CG55NJ63107C
and the block has stamped: 72 0A 60158

Its a TC Cortina it doesnt have the original engine in it so just wanted to know what it had originally

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Post #47 by addo » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:21 pm

It's a 1972 era block - 72DA 6015 B

The car's serial number suggests it was stamped in January 1973

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Post #48 by TUFF72 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:31 pm

Thanks mate so would that block be the 250 or the 200?

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Post #49 by addo » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:26 am

It's the same block, either way. They just varied the crank, piston and rods to suit. Being a Corty might make it more likely a 200.

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Post #50 by stevexysupersix » Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:43 pm

xctasy wrote:JG31XS is a Geelong made JG, Broadmedows assembled 31 Wagon engine, Sept 80 (x= 80, s=Sept)..
xctasy wrote:If its a Gold Coast/Brissy assembley, its JL, but still made at Geelong.

xctasy wrote:H = Assembley plant Code. Don't know about the type of streamlined plant alterations after 1985. The Geelong plant was rejigged after the Clevleand was axed in 1983.



So "G" was Broadmeadows, "L" was GC/Bris assembled, What was "H" in early the 70's era?
Cheers, Steve
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