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Who has an I6 Fox Body?

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Who has an I6 Fox Body?

Post #1 by xafalcongs » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:59 pm

Who all on here have either a Mustang or Capri with the factory 6? I was given, yep, given a 3.8 powered 1986 Capri GS. The car is in pretty good shape. It needs a respray and the motor/tranny are both shot. I have an I6 K-member and recently picked up some more Aussie X-flows to replace the one I sold. So, who else has a 6 powered Fox body?

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Post #2 by addo » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:16 am

Did your mate get you any Cortina oil pans? Pretty sure that's what you'll need to make it work.

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Post #3 by JackFish » Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:43 am

I do, I do!! :lol:
In fact, I believe the '78 Fairmont was the first Fox-body Ford.
I like to think of my car as the Mustang-station-wagon-with-the-little-truck-motor-that-never-was! :D
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Post #4 by xafalcongs » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:00 am

addo wrote:Did your mate get you any Cortina oil pans? Pretty sure that's what you'll need to make it work.
Nah, no Cortina pans. I was planning on modding the pans anyway.

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Post #5 by SteveS » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:02 am

I do. 1982 Cougar.
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Post #6 by 80Stang » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:09 am

Yep, here is a '80 Mustang with matching numbers 200cid engine.

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Post #7 by Marine05 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:59 pm

81 foxbody with 200 Inline and c4 tranny. All matching.

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Post #8 by BKNLINE » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:34 am

I have the last model of the first Fox chassis Fords: an '83 Fairmont 2 door Sedan. It will be converted to a V8 since California frowns on an aluminum head 200 I6 without the emissions equiment. A '65 Mustang however, isn't scrutinized too much.

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My first 'Stang was an I6 '65 FB but sold it when I bought a V8 version.
I've been a V8 person ever since until now: I just bought a '65 200 I6 Mustang Coupe.

So now, I'm Back Inline!

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Post #9 by Snake » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:50 pm

Marine05 wrote:81 foxbody with 200 Inline and c4 tranny. All matching.


X 2 and just turned over 100,000 kilometers first time around,no bull.
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Post #10 by max » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:37 am

Hi, I have 3 Foxes, all inline 200's with automatics.
A copper 79 hatchback with about a 120,000 miles, painted and put in the ditch by my son(':oops:')
Tweaked the frame a bit, but it is fixable.
A black 79 hatchback with about 60,000 miles, which for some reason(':roll:')
I am letting him drive to college.
My 80 sedan, with a white vinyl, yes vinyl roof, about 70,000 miles.
One of these will be getting a 2 barrel carb this spring, and maybe headers('8)')

Which reminds me, I may be getting a used set of Hookers, dual outlet. They were on an older Mustang. Anyone else have headers on their Fox? Any advice?

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Post #11 by GrantD » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:03 pm

I've got an 80' mustang...I love the thing. It's pushing 95,000 miles.

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Post #12 by BUZZ » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:28 pm

I have an 81' Capri :D

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Post #13 by JT81stang » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:05 am

Here's my 81 Stang.
The original 200 motor is long gone, replaced with a 250 motor.
Still has original C-4 tranny and 3:27 gears in the 7.5 rear.

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Post #14 by JackFish » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:10 am

Did you fab up the oil pan to put a 250 in there?
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Post #15 by JT81stang » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:10 pm

Yes I did, Jackfish.
I used the lower half of the original 200 pan and the upper half (including where the front & rear main seals go) from a 250 pan.

I screwed the upper half to a piece of plywood to minimize warpage when welding the two pieces together.

As for a dipstick tube - it went into the drivers side of the pan just below the mounting flange.
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Post #16 by BUZZ » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:19 pm

What else did you have to do to get your 250 in there?

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Post #17 by JT81stang » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:08 am

I used 1971 Maverick 250 motor mounts which lower the motor in the engine compartment. You can use the original 200 mounts but the 250 will sit higher and you will need a big scoop on the hood.

Even with the Maverick mounts you still need a hood scoop. See the photo of my car and you'll see I used a newer Stang front facing scoop on mine & yes, it is functional.

You will also need to use an older power steering pump and bracket - one from a Granada will work. The orginal power steering bracket will not fit the 250 motor, and the original pump will not fit the older bracket - or you can ditch the pump and bracket all together by getting a manual rack & pinion setup.

If you have a C-4 behind the original 200 it can still be used but you will need to change the bellhousing as the 250 has the same bolt pattern as a V-8.

Original starter will still work as will the ugly exhaust manifold - but I have a Clifford 6 into 1 header on mine.

One last thing - the original 4 blade plastic fan will work but is very close to the underside of the hood. I went with a slightly smaller dia. fan.

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Re: Who has an I6 Fox Body?

Post #18 by xctasy » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:58 pm

I've been blessed with a totally stock 1982 B-code Mustang, has optional 3.3L 87hp 6-cyl with its 1-bbl Holley carb,

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That's the sky blue high mount starter engine 3.3, Bordeaux C3 auto, 2.79 gears, small TRX P190/65 390 tire package. It's still LHD, and quite unlike the United Kingdom RHD conversions which had TUV/Type Aprroval Capri 2800 tail lights and reversed firewall, but it does have the specially cast pods for British/German spec Ford Granada MkII fold back mirrors and the metric speedo.

It's a 1983 rego year Japanese market export, Canadian full metric speedo with 57300 kilometers (35 590 original miles), stock California emission spec, heavy duty battery, tilt wheel, intermediate wipe, A/C.P/S

Others with the C4 are mostly low mount,
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Mine is high mount starter
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Its magic on the road, has a peachy smooooth engine which mates gracefully with the smoooth French transmission. Its got a great ride and suspension and steering and brakes and general feel of the car are light years ahead of the 1982 Falcon. Performance is slow as the 1982 B code lost 7 hp over the 1981 versions but it keeps up with modern traffic. Same year Aussie Falcon 3.3 had 120 hp and weighed in at about 2919, not 2622 pounds. It did 18.5 seconds as a 3speed auto and 17.9 seconds as a 5-speed manual for 111 mph, but my Mustang auto takes about 20 seconds. The rare Californian spec RS Capri 3.3-speed SROD with 2.49 diff and 97.5 hp 2-bbl Holley Weber took 19 seconds to cross the 1/4 mile, and couldn't break 90 mph!

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As for fitting a 250 engine, the Aussie block is smaller, and about 1.5"narrower than the US 250. Here is a copy from Jack Collins whos mates fitted up a triple carb, dual header US 250 to a Fox Mustang

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XEC Ltd ICBE's Inter Continental Ballistic Engines-
FAZER 6Bi (M112 & EEC5) or FAZER 6Ti (GT3582 & EEC5) 425 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
FAZER 6V0 3x2-BBL Holley 188 HP 3.3L/200 I-6 or 235 HP 4.1L/250 I-6
X-Flow Engine Components Ltd http://www.xecltd.info/?rd=10

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Re: Who has an I6 Fox Body?

Post #19 by JackFish » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:26 pm

Congrats, looks like it's in great shape.
Nice custom fox-body oil pan on the 250.
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Re: Who has an I6 Fox Body?

Post #20 by powerband » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:05 am

I've long been looking for Fox L6 Mustang . I'm fairly convinced they were regional or DSO selective. Very few are found (or left :? ) in the N.E. . Limiting my projects to feasible, a Foxbody "later" evolution suspension and tricked small block six/T5 would complete Falcon lineage for me. (Tbird SC for purists).

They don't turn up on regional Craigs/E-Bay . 'Been looking for an original six or junk V8 conversion with clutch pedals.

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Re: Who has an I6 Fox Body?

Post #21 by JT81stang » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:11 pm

Powerband - I've got mine for sale (haven't advertised it though) pm me and I'll send more pics if you don't mind travelling....... :lol:
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Post #22 by xctasy » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:49 pm

Here's the British spec 3.3 notchback, imported into Europe by Ford Advanced Vehicles in Britain. Lots were exported. Spot the changes. Despite the fact that Britian and Germany used the 2.8 V6 in all there bigger cars, the export Stangs seamed to always be in line sixes for some odd reason.

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Lots of drive reports had I6 Mustangs or Capris too.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/motor-trend/326-9.jpg

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If you check with other forums, most exports to foreign countries are anything other than the 4.2 or 5.0 V8

Most of the exported ones I've seen were 3.3 liter sixes, although my cousin had a 1980 2.3 Turbo Mustang Cobra imported in New Zealand in 1981. (My cousin was an orchardist, and used to pick up five speed 3.8 V6 Buick Skylarks and Chevy Monzas during the late 70's.) It would appear the gas crunch ment that a large majority of customers picked up the 2.3 liter base model, and the 4.2 and 5.0 liter options were not always popular. The 3.3 came standard with a stick shift, and the days of the Iran revolution and resulting OPEC fuel crisis caused rather odd buying patterns.
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Re: Who has an I6 Fox Body?

Post #23 by 81Capri200 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:06 am

G'day all. Just secured my 1981 Capri 3.3l with a C4 from LA. It's in the shipping yard now awaiting transfer to the ship for departure downunder next week! Can't wait. :D
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Re: Who has an I6 Fox Body?

Post #24 by super4ord » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:33 pm

WOW!!! Did anyone notice on the ASC Mclaren literature that Xctasy posted, that the engine was a 3.3 inline six with a VV(variable venturi) 2 barrel carb!!! I guess there may have actually been some production 2 bbl heads, besides the experimental one that the guy in Kansas has. I'd like to investigate this further.

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Post #25 by xctasy » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:06 am

Lookes like the Fox body 3.3 2-bbl carb was coded X. Wonder if any other info exists?
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Post #26 by Lagerhead » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:29 pm

I was just wonder if any body has tried to put a 300 in a fox body :?:
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Post #27 by xctasy » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:15 am

Yes, there were some pictures a while back of a Fairmont with a 4.9 carb six.

The oil pump hits the stock cross memeber and is close to the stock steering rack, that prevents getting the engine down and dirty with the stock parts.

The 240/300 block is about 2.5 inches taller just at the block, before the head and rocker cover is added. Foxes are quite shallow at the struts.

Since the engine is 10.3 inches tall at the block face verses about 7.8 for the 3.3, that's too tall to fit the stock hood . If you add a Fox Cobra style hood scoop, you can just about cover it up.
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Post #28 by Lagerhead » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:12 am

thanks for the reply
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Post #29 by xctasy » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:16 am

81Capri200 wrote:G'day all. Just secured my 1981 Capri 3.3l with a C4 from LA. It's in the shipping yard now awaiting transfer to the ship for departure downunder next week! Can't wait. :D



Another fine Mercury rises in the antipodes. I've seen your machine on Four Eyed Forums. http://vb.foureyedpride.com/album.php?albumid=2177


Its an amazing machine. Good pick-up!! :thumbup: Nice that were pumping up the Fox body numbers down here. Good fortune for the 2V swap, that little 3.3 will love it.
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Post #30 by JackFish » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:56 pm

A 300 in a fox-body? Here ya go! :mrgreen:
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