ARP Studs for 200

RichCreations

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With CI gone, I thought I should share what i have found so far, after ordering studs for my 200 (rod/main/head) from Does10s

The Rod bolts, are really for a v6 and are this part: http://arp-bolts.com/kits/ARPkit-detail.php?RecordID=524

The Head Stud kit for iron log heads are these: http://arp-bolts.com/kits/ARPkit-detail.php?RecordID=519

The Main studs I received, are too long, and I am returning them (they were the same as the head bolts, and would work on a 250, 240, 300), and will be calling ARP monday to find what fits...
 
FYI UNLESS YOUR BUILDING A RACE ENGINE, STUDS ARNT NEEDED. MAIN AND HEAD THAT IS. NOW ROD BOLTS YES GO FOR IT. THERE THE SAME AS SBF. JMO
BOB
 
Well, I won't be re-using 51 year old bolts on my turbo build... and I am doing worse then building a race engine, I am putting a turbo 200 in an econoline that goes up mountains loaded...
 
send does10s an email, he may still have some head studs or even bolt kits available. his email is listed in a number of threads regarding classicinlines.
 
send does10s an email, he may still have some head studs or even bolt kits available. his email is listed in a number of threads regarding classicinlines.

Thats where i got them, however the main studs were not the correct size, and he does not have any that fit... And since his supply will dry up, I thought it would be good to share part#s
 
BCOWANWHEELS":1jt8nbbh said:
FYI UNLESS YOUR BUILDING A RACE ENGINE, STUDS ARNT NEEDED. MAIN AND HEAD THAT IS. NOW ROD BOLTS YES GO FOR IT. THERE THE SAME AS SBF. JMO
BOB

NOR DO YOU NEED HIGH RATIO ROCKERS! :mrgreen:

Use the ARP studs, they will give you better clamping force over bolts.
 
NOR DO YOU NEED HIGH RATIO ROCKERS! :mrgreen:

Use the ARP studs, they will give you better clamping force over bolts.

Seriously, if I listened to everything "I don't need for a street engine" it would just be a stock engine, and not a performance engine...

Do I need ARP studs? perhaps not, but it would really suck to find out i did...

Does a street engine need balanced? perhaps not, but it will run smoother, cooler, and last longer if it is...

Especially when one may have differing goals... In my case, I want a 140-150HP 200 that can run at WOT for 45 min+ hauling a van/cargo up donner pass. This is not a trivial thing to achieve, getting 250HP out of one for 10sec at a time at the strip would be less stressful on parts...
 
Donner is a long steep grade. According to dyno tests the high lift rockers increase average hp and torque throughout the rpm range.
 
Donner is a long steep grade. According to dyno tests the high lift rockers increase average hp and torque throughout the rpm range.

I did not mention rockers at all, but they are out of my budget... And the turbo will make up for the rockers.

I am going for bulletproof, not powerful anyway. Donner is a long steep grade, and the 200 is going to have to work hard dragging a loaded econoline up it at traffic speed (along with all the other hills here)

btw, the original post was for chad, so he could add these parts to his list.
 
a turbo ????????????? your gonna have to take it to bare block and bring it back up specifically for turbo use. hope you got deep pockets as your gonna need the cash flow. best to ya...................
 
a turbo ????????????? your gonna have to take it to bare block and bring it back up specifically for turbo use. hope you got deep pockets as your gonna need the cash flow. best to ya...................

Like this?

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Well, after a long chat with ARP (they think we are unworthy of them making kits for the small sixes) I did figure out what I need, and where to get it.

the main studs for a 200 are ARP# AP-3.600-1LB available here: http://www.allensfasteners.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=AP-3.600-1LB
the washers are 7/16 I.D. X 3/4 O.D. X .120 THICK and are here (choose correct size in the dropdown): http://www.allensfasteners.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=22246
the nuts (I went with 12-pt) are 7/16-20 12PT NUT WS=1/2 HH=.432 CD=.700 and are here (choose correct size in the dropdown) http://www.allensfasteners.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=67851E

EDIT: corrected washer/nut sizes
 
RichCreations,

Thanks for the research and post with numbers.

If you're interested, here is a few extra stud kits you may be interested in:

Stainless Exhaust Stud Kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261575459714?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Stainless Oil Pan Stud Kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350788948268?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

The oil pan kit might be overkill, but the exhaust kit would be worth considering.
I've had a set of stainless steel studs on the exhaust logs of my Corvair for over thirty years, and to this day the nuts just pop loose with a quick turn of the wrench.
 
RichCreations,

Thanks for the research and post with numbers.

If you're interested, here is a few extra stud kits you may be interested in:

Stainless Exhaust Stud Kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261575459714?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Stainless Oil Pan Stud Kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350788948268?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

The oil pan kit might be overkill, but the exhaust kit would be worth considering.
I've had a set of stainless steel studs on the exhaust logs of my Corvair for over thirty years, and to this day the nuts just pop loose with a quick turn of the wrench.

They do not say if the exhaust studs are for manifold or header (I suspect header) but I would be afraid to order without knowing. As for oil pan, yeah, that a bit overkill, but would make it easier to get the gasket straight.
 
These are good sources to have. Thanks.
A turbo should get you up Donner just fine. I remember all those trips I made from Carson up to Tahoe in my 3800 lb Bronco with the 170 and then the 200. The 200 was a little better but still went up most of it in second. At about 30mph. Glad those days are over.
 
These are good sources to have. Thanks.
A turbo should get you up Donner just fine. I remember all those trips I made from Carson up to Tahoe in my 3800 lb Bronco with the 170 and then the 200. The 200 was a little better but still went up most of it in second. At about 30mph. Glad those days are over.

I would be thrilled to be able to do it at 55-60mph... On flat land, the stock engine was plenty fast but not very quick, I don't really feel safe in it over 85mph anyway, so top speed is not part of my goal...
 
Thanks for the information and part numbers, I am building a drag race only , 250, turbo charged on E-85. Just curious what turbo did you settle on and boost? Thanks Randy
 
hotrodguy":33qbgjft said:
Thanks for the information and part numbers, I am building a drag race only , 250, turbo charged on E-85. Just curious what turbo did you settle on and boost? Thanks Randy

Well, as i am not looking to race this, this likely won't help you, but I am using a T3 turbo from a saab 900, blowing thru a ford CFI throttle body. I plan to run less then 5psi of boost.
 
Thanks for figuring out and posting the part numbers of the studs.

Mods - Can this info be moved to a stickie for future builders?
 
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