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Post #51 by MechRick » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:13 am

That's narrow. What are you going to use for a rack? I'm thinking of a Locost build (similar dimensions) and most of those use cut down and welded racks. :nono:

Early Pinto was 55"-56", which is close, with reverse dish wheels it might work.

Pintos had short wheelbase too. Less than 105". Keeps Mr. Ackerman happy on a short wheelbase project...
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Post #52 by 80broncoman » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:24 am

MechRick wrote:That's narrow. What are you going to use for a rack? I'm thinking of a Locost build (similar dimensions) and most of those use cut down and welded racks. :nono:

Early Pinto was 55"-56", which is close, with reverse dish wheels it might work.

Pintos had short wheelbase too. Less than 105". Keeps Mr. Ackerman happy on a short wheelbase project...


I saw something quite odd/different as far as Rack and pinions steering goes years ago.
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some of the smaller GM cars like the grand ams and others had a rack mounted to the firewall up high. the steering link hooked to rack in the center of the rack between the rack mounts.
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Post #53 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:09 pm

I'm looking at a john law motors Helix kit. Stay tuned.
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Post #54 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:26 pm

Yesterday my mates and I set up the individual chassis components on my garage floor and tack welded everything down. Today I did much of the finish welding and mounted the narrow 9"er under it.

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Post #55 by bubba22349 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:00 pm

Lookin good that should be able to handle a 300! :thumbup:
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Will you need a X-member?

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Post #57 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:06 am

chessterd5 wrote:Will you need a X-member?

Another X-member will be added for the IFS and another set of longitudinal/diagonals will connect the other ends of the torque boxes to the rear suspension X-mbr, similar to this early construction photo of my son's Anglia we built several years ago. Before welding stuff together I inserted weld nuts into the corners of the components for body mounts and drilled and tapped each piece for mounting attachment points for fuel lines, wiring, brake lines, etc. Much easier to do it on a drill press than laying on your back with a hand drill looking up.

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I settled on this design after visiting Chuck Finders, legendary AA/GS racer and builder. He built many of the Gas Coupes for notable racers in the 60s and 70s using this same basic design. Most were blown Hemis in excess of 1500 HP. Even without the roll cage it should handle 500 HP easily.

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Post #58 by Soldmy66 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:57 am

Every time I look at your projects, I am reminded how projects can and should be done.

Very nice.

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Post #59 by chessterd5 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:11 am

Thats a good design! I see what you mean about the roll cage, if its tied in right it should stiffen the frame rails & keep them from twisting & torqueing under load when the engine lifts. Thanks for the pictures I learned something today!

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Thanks Soldmy66. Every time I do a project I learn things I file away for future use. And when others help me and offer suggestions, "Why don't you do this this way, or measure that the other way..." I wonder " why didn't I think of that?"

Several years ago I was approached by a friend who asked me to join his work group. I say 'work group' and not 'car club' because this group is like no other car club I have been associated with. Once a week the six of us get together at a member's garage to work on his car project. A couple of us are retirees, one brings his grown son with a project of his own, one brings a neighborhood kid who needs a little "guidance", one is an accomplished car builder in his own right. We learn from each other and do tasks that would take any one of us a long time, in one evening. No officers, no dues, no rules, no business meetings, no matching apparel. We call ourselves The Loose Screws.
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F6F is a good deal like your working group. I particularly like it when the young folks sign in and ask for guidance. That's pretty brave, admitting to ignorance. But the help they receive here is the best. Everybody wants to expand the knowledge, not flame the newbie. Like your group, it's real cooperation.
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Post #62 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:54 am

With help from a couple of Loose Screws the Fatmans IFS is installed.

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and initial plans for the paint scheme. Gasser style

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Post #63 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:04 am

I also made the rear track bar. Adjustable with a turnbuckle. Found at a swap meet for stupid cheap. Already urethane bushed for a 9/16 bolt.

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Post #64 by bubba22349 » Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:26 pm

Top notch work FTF, its looking like a solid ride! :thumbup:
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Post #65 by J.R. » Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:48 pm

80broncoman wrote:
MechRick wrote:That's narrow. What are you going to use for a rack? I'm thinking of a Locost build (similar dimensions) and most of those use cut down and welded racks. :nono:

Early Pinto was 55"-56", which is close, with reverse dish wheels it might work.

Pintos had short wheelbase too. Less than 105". Keeps Mr. Ackerman happy on a short wheelbase project...


I saw something quite odd/different as far as Rack and pinions steering goes years ago.
(I'll say it quietly)
some of the smaller GM cars like the grand ams and others had a rack mounted to the firewall up high. the steering link hooked to rack in the center of the rack between the rack mounts.



FWIW... VW/Audi's "B2" chassis cars, VW Dasher (1974-'81) and Audi Fox (1973-'79) also had firewall-mounted racks with center-connected steering links. All having manual steering boxes, they were 2000-2400 lb vehicles with probably 55-58% of curb weight on their front ends. Adjustable tie rods are available.

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Post #66 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:00 pm

Added front hubs and tires. Now I can roll it around. All this took a month's time. Fast for me.



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Heck yeah!

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Post #68 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Mon May 25, 2015 8:58 pm

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I made a pair of motor mounts. They use universal Speedway biscuits. The biscuit is angled by 15 degrees such that a line drawn through the mounting plate intersects the crankshaft centerline. I'll file that away for future builds. Also, I like to combine features into one component so I integrated the steering jackshaft carrier bearing mount into the motor mount. The small holes are for wires to pass through if necessary. I used 3/16 plate - 1/8 would have been sufficient.
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Post #69 by chessterd5 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:56 pm

Hello FTF, quality work as always! Have you been able to do anything with the body while its off the frame?

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I have not done anything on the body yet. It is stored indoors in another city for the time being, as I am short on storage space. I am drawing up plans to make a tandem axle trailer that will just fit either the Speedracer champ car or the Attic Anglia so I can move them back and forth to work on, as both of these projects are being stored off-site. Sometimes I have to take the long way around to make progress on stuff, but in the long run the trailer is needed to transport the champ car to races and it may also come in handy for interstate transportation of hot rods. I have been thinking of things I want to do to the body, like having a quick-release dash panel / instrument cluster to have easy access to a right-angle dash-mounted master brake cylinder. I do not like them hanging into the engine compartment and floor mounted units have been somewhat inconvenient for me both in mounting and servicing. I am looking for a 3 x 4 piece of roof metal of the right contour to fill the roof, and a properly proportioned bench seat that I can narrow down to fit (I don't like bucket seats that look squished together in a narrow car). Other than a new floor, roof, and firewall the body does not need a lot of TLC.
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Post #71 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:33 pm

In addition to canting the motor mount biscuits 15 degrees inward I tilted the mounting pad 4 degrees rearward to get a proper engine installation angle.
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THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:In addition to canting the motor mount biscuits 15 degrees inward I tilted the mounting pad 4 degrees rearward to get a proper engine installation angle.



That 15deg is so that the torque of the engine is tangent to the mounts, right?
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THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:In addition to canting the motor mount biscuits 15 degrees inward I tilted the mounting pad 4 degrees rearward to get a proper engine installation angle.



That 15deg is so that the torque of the engine is tangent to the mounts, right?

Yes, I would assume so, so that there is no shearing effect on the mounts - only compression and tension.
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THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:I have not done anything on the body yet... I have been thinking of things I want to do to the body, like having a quick-release dash panel / instrument cluster to have easy access to a right-angle dash-mounted master brake cylinder. I do not like them hanging into the engine compartment and floor mounted units have been somewhat inconvenient for me both in mounting and servicing. I am looking for a 3 x 4 piece of roof metal of the right contour to fill the roof, and a properly proportioned bench seat that I can narrow down to fit (I don't like bucket seats that look squished together in a narrow car)

:nod: Yes, I think I've reached the age, where lying on my back, with my left thigh wedged against the drivers seat, both legs sticking out the drivers door, & my right shoulder jammed into the brake pedal while holding a flashlight in my mouth & trying to thread a 5\16 th nut on to the back of the dash panel just doesn't seem like fun anymore. lol.
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Thanks - I'll check it out.
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What is the part number for those biscuit mounts
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Post #78 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:07 am

The motor mounts are in the chassis. Between the compound angles of the mounting surfaces and the assymetry of the block I wish I had paid more attention in Geometry Class.

Just kidding - I could have taught it.



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Post #79 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:05 pm

Tonight some of my Loose Screws hoodlum buds decked the engine and installed the trans xmbr. Then I bolted up a head and a home made tripower for kicks pics.


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I hope you keep the A/T tires on the final product...
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Post #81 by JackFish » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:28 am

Looking forward to seeing you on Pass Time again with this one. :thumbup:
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YOU, FTF, are a sick sick man.... and the reason women join Support groups.
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ivonius wrote:YOU, FTF, are a sick sick man.... and the reason women join Support groups.

My wife is a card-carrying member of "Gearheads Anonymous".
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THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:My wife is a card-carrying member of "Gearheads Anonymous".


Now that is funny right there!

The car looks like it's coming along nicely, I like that tripower setup!

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Post #85 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:31 pm

Somebody clued me in that the third seat from a Dodge minivan will work in an Anglia so I went to the local junk yard and found a clean one. Measuring off SD's car it will just clear the door inner panels. The back folds down to allow access to the "back seat".

Also, a drag racing buddy donated an 8 gallon fuel cell. 150 miles per tankfull will be enough I'm thinking.

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Post #86 by 1964f100240 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:42 pm

greg i think you need to turbo charge it. my wife never would drive my pickup then i put the trubo on it now i cant keep her out she went through one set of tires and a stock aod lol. short wheel base and turbo = run. cars looking good.

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Post #87 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:01 pm

I am not ruling out a turbo at some later date. The 240 that is going in this car is coming out of my son's '48 Anglia (this one is a '49) and is already built up. I am collecting parts to do a turbo on a 300 something. What is holding me back - aside from the time involved - is the lack of a 100% stainless steel exhaust manifold that is properly designed - not just a log. We'll see.
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Post #88 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:48 am

This month we are going to get SuperDave's Anglia out after a 2-year rest - a job for The Loose Screws. SD is coming home on a 3-day layover on an overseas business trip and this may be the last time the car gets run with the original 243 motor; it gets a newly built 303 to replace it and the 243 is going in the '49 Attic Anglia. We're hoping to get it out to the strip between business commitments and a bicycle race in Detroit. I'm just hoping he doesn't break my 243 LOL.

[EDIT May 2019: He didn't break "my" 243 and ran a best of 14.85 with it. I expect the new 303 will be a second faster in the quarter, with a similar level of build.]
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Post #89 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri May 24, 2019 12:15 am

The block is back from the machine shop w/ a new bore and hone. The pistons were installed on the rods.
I took the head in to get de-greased and de-rusted. The guides were in bad shape so I installed Bronze Wall guides. Then I cleaned up the ports and the combustion chambers. I did the final clean-up with a #80 grit tootsie roll in the intakes and a #100 grit on the chambers and exhausts.

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Next I'll cut the seats for 1.94 / 1.60 valves and then do the spring seats and get the deck planed. I plan on using the stock cast 1.61:1 rockers on this build.
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Post #91 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pm

Today the guides got prepped. First, ream with a piloted reamer. This will make the hole round and on center. Next, since I'm a little OCD I honed the guide, to establish the final size and to get the proper surface finish on the inside of the guide with an oil-holding cross hatch. For a street motor I set the stem-to-guide clearance at .0015 - .0018". Ford B/P spec is .001 - .027". The bronzewall guide manufacturer says you can run a little tighter clearances with bronze guides but I'm a little leery of that. Ford's own teardown analysis guide says its a 'major' problem to run tighter than .0007".

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Post #92 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:38 pm

The cylinder head machining is complete. Big valves installed and bowl and chamber work is done. I had to have a .010" cut taken off the deck surface to clean it up. Also, the crank is installed in the block so build-up can commence on the short block. I discovered the crank keyway had been repaired so I had to make a custom 3/16 x .280 key to fit the new keyway.
I installed the pistons and rods in the engine. Hypereutectic pistons with stock compression on stock rods. Nuttin' fancy here. Stock heavy ring pack. Pistons .024" down in the hole. Next the cam and lifters go in.
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Post #93 by old28racer » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:03 pm

Nice project this Anglia will be. Keep the pictures coming.
A few years out of high school (mid 60's) I had a Thams Panel with an Oldsmoble & B&M hydro, straight front axel, Olds rear end that we ran at the drags. Real tight fit with that motor. Real low dollar car back in the days.
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Post #94 by Wesman07 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:15 am

Awesome. Keep me coming. It’s rare to see “do it yourself” and “do it right” at the same time
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Post #95 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:06 am

Thanks old28 and Wesman. On a purely tangential related subject last weekend my "boy" won the USA Cycling Masters Division national cycling championship in Colorado Springs. I know he is going to like this motor in his ride - maybe not as much as being up on two skinny wheels but fun nevertheless.
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Post #96 by old28racer » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:35 pm

Congratulations to your Son on a great win. As you might be aware every year we have the Amgen Trans California bike race, hundreds of riders that race from Northern CA to Southern CA. We got to see them a few times when living in Bakersfield as they passed through.
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Post #97 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:18 pm

Tonight I installed the cam. It is a Crane H-272-2 - the same cam I run in my Willys (thanks SRUSNAK for the cam - we miss your input here). Everything came out pretty nominal - .005" axial end play (.002 - .006 is spec), .0025" - .0035" cam gear backlash (.001 - .007 is spec), 107 degrees LC on #1, 108 degrees LC on #6 - close enough (spec: 107). Next comes head install - I may still get a set of roller rockers and then the lube system and finally the ignition system.
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Post #98 by sdiesel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:41 am

geometry,was mentioned ,so I mention this.
geometry is best learned on a billiard table.
and possibly physics an maybe most of life's other lessons too.
one of which, is if u are 12, NEVER let ur father catch u in the pool hall, where I won even the good players
that codger tanned the geometry right outta me.
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Post #99 by xctasy » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:48 am

THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:Tonight I installed the cam. It is a Crane H-272-2 - the same cam I run in my Willys (thanks SRUSNAK for the cam - we miss your input here). Everything came out pretty nominal - .005" axial end play (.002 - .006 is spec), .0025" - .0035" cam gear backlash (.001 - .007 is spec), 107 degrees LC on #1, 108 degrees LC on #6 - close enough (spec: 107). Next comes head install - I may still get a set of roller rockers and then the lube system and finally the ignition system.
The intake (Offy w/ 390 Holley) and exhaust (dual EFI) will be transferred over from the 240 motor.


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Post #100 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:59 am

sdiesel wrote:geometry,was mentioned ,so I mention this.
geometry is best learned on a billiard table.
and possibly physics an maybe most of life's other lessons too.
one of which, is if u are 12, NEVER let ur father catch u in the pool hall, where I won even the good players
that codger tanned the geometry right outta me.

Funny you should mention that sdiesel. I remember a similar event when I snatched SuperDave from a pool hall as a teen. The kid turned out OK after all. Knows his geometry too.
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