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Post #51 by Fordman75 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:33 pm

Yes the industrial 240 was available. I bought one a while back that powered a huge waterpump. I posted the pics of it earlier in this thread. But it had the standard style exhaust manifold no HD manifold. It did have a weird high mount cooling fan. The fan mounted to the thermostat housing. I still have the fan and thermostat housing but sadly the matching crank pulley was broke.

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Post #52 by cat300I6 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:27 pm

Well today I went and got a 300 industrial with a C6 attached to it. It came off a baggage handler from the Pittsburg Airport. I`d been dealing on this since May 23. I finally got the time to go look at it in person and bought it after hearing it run. The guy I got it from works at the airport and had 2 of them. He told me the C6 was set up to only run in low and D2. It seems the airports wanted them not to run at fast speeds.

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Post #53 by woodbutcher » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:05 pm

:hmmm: There was one other use that I saw a couple of 300`s put to.They were in a couple of air boats in Fl.They did a pretty good job too.Would easily cruise at 70 mph.
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Post #54 by bubba22349 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:28 pm

There were some 300 powered Econoline Van (front end) chassis mounted Motorhomes built too.
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Post #55 by 66 E100 Pickup » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:40 pm

Saw this conversion for sale on ebay, but since ebay is always disappearing...for your enjoyment:

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Post #56 by Darkbreeze » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:33 am

No pics, but I just had a similar conversation about this with my machinist, who is no longer my machinist since he just retired and closed up shop. No more machine shops in my town of 109,000. Bummer.

Anyhow, he said he's had a contract for years doing the machine work on 300 inline blocks and heads that are used strictly for augering oil and natural gas wells, and then pumping operations on dug wells. Said he generally does ten to twenty of these a year and that the operation he has contracts with somewhere in southeastern Colorado, and that in addition to some other engine types they are running about 100 of these continuously on site with another twenty or so being used for augering operations. Says they use them because they are one of the few engines that doesn't complain about continuous usage and that they phase out other models as they obtain or convert additional 300 model engines. Thought it was pretty interesting.
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Post #57 by Superbum » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:08 am

When I was little my dad had to repo a new Holland harrow bed that had a ford 300 in it.

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Post #58 by Superbum » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:10 am

Probably how he knew how to hot wire it.

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Post #59 by Shorty » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:24 pm

A local tractor parts/repair place has two old cherry harvesters that run a big ford inline and a nine inch rear end. Not sure if they are 300 or 240, next time i'm there and they aren't buried in snow I will take a few pictures. I have been trying to buy one off him....
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Post #60 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:26 pm

I wonder what gear ratio was used in the rear end?
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Post #61 by Shorty » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:49 pm

I can try to find out sometime, but not till the snow here melts. I remember the thing was an engine with a big hydraulic pump and the axle was turned by hydraulics.
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Post #62 by Lunatic Fringe » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:16 am

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300 out of a 70's New Holland combine. 9 shives on the back end. The yellow part on the back end weighs over 200 lbs. When you plugged the machine, it would come to an instant stop from 3200 RPM. Shocking it didn't blow the crank on the ground.

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Post #63 by Shorty » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:47 pm

So the guy with the cherry harvester with a ford inline in it went on holidays, now he needs money so I thought I would see if i could get him to part with the engine. He says I can have it for $500. It ran about two years ago when he parked the machine.

The casting number says D1AE 6015 CA. A tag mounted with the bolt that holds down the coil says 240 71 19 I-C J122J

I think that means it is a industrial-comercial 240 from 1971.

Can anyone correct me if I am wrong or add anything to this?

Would this engine have a forged or cast crank? Can I tell without tearing it apart?

Is this a good deal?

So many questions... hopefully y'all have some answers or insight for me.

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Post #64 by Fordman75 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:44 pm

All 240's are cast cranks. And unless it's a fresh rebuild that runs perfect, I feel $500 for a 240/300 is too much( unless it's a 300 HD with HD exhaust manifold and steel crank ) . I don't think I usually ever pay over $100 for one. And if it is a industrial 240 there isn't really anything special about it( over a standard 240 ) unless it has the high mount fan set up.
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Post #65 by arse_sidewards » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:16 pm

Fordman75 wrote:All 240's are cast cranks. And unless it's a fresh rebuild that runs perfect, I feel $500 for a 240/300 is too much( unless it's a 300 HD with HD exhaust manifold and steel crank ) . I don't think I usually ever pay over $100 for one. And if it is a industrial 240 there isn't really anything special about it( over a standard 240 ) unless it has the high mount fan set up.



x2. I would buy any ran when pulled 300 for $100-$200. I wouldn't pay more unless it's got the industrial/bell-housing clutch stuff so you can use it as a power unit for whatever you want.
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Post #66 by Shorty » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:41 pm

It has a drive off the front of the crank for a hydraulic pump but I am unsure of the back of the engine. It is still in the machine so I could run it before I pull it if I do get it. Sounds like I need to work on him about the price. What would have been the last year that a 240 was produced? Here in Ontario everything rusts out so even 300s are getting hard to come by. I figured a machine like this got used for a week once a year to harvest the cherries and then it sat there, so there wouldn't be many hours on it.
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Post #67 by Fordman75 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:37 pm

Shorty wrote:It has a drive off the front of the crank for a hydraulic pump but I am unsure of the back of the engine. It is still in the machine so I could run it before I pull it if I do get it. Sounds like I need to work on him about the price. What would have been the last year that a 240 was produced? Here in Ontario everything rusts out so even 300s are getting hard to come by. I figured a machine like this got used for a week once a year to harvest the cherries and then it sat there, so there wouldn't be many hours on it.


1974 was the last year for the 240.

I have a small hoarding problem when it comes to 240/300's. Anytime I find one for sale that's $100.00 or less I try to buy it. I think I'm up to 7 or 8 240's and have 2 300's. :oops:

You really have to be careful with the industrial stuff, in areas that get cold in the winter. I've bought more then one that had the coolant/water freeze and crack the blocks. So I go in to the deals thinking the worse. Unless you can run it and thoroughly check them over, you don't want to pay much for them. At $100 I'm pretty safe that I won't loose any money on a complete engine( even if it has a cracked block or head ) . They can be good deals with spotless maintenance records. But can also be totally beat, not maintained. Just run into the ground.

I find the best place to get them are from the V8 guys/gals that are building the old trucks. I've gotten many free or $50 240/300's because they are worthless to the V8 crowd. They just want them gone.
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Post #68 by Shorty » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:56 pm

I probably will pass on it unless the price drops significantly. I have a "small" collection of 300s,(four in trucks, two out. range of years from mid 70's to late 80's), I just don't have any 240 stuff yet. I have another lead on a 70's ford truck with an old stock car 300 with 240 head that ran when parked...10 years ago. Maybe that will yield more interesting parts. The head has "big chevy valves" and he" has a 2bbl intake for it somewhere" if he can find it.
There is something to the thrill of the chase I guess. I need to find one of these V8 guys giving the old engine away.
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Post #69 by arse_sidewards » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:37 pm

Fordman75 wrote:
I have a small hoarding problem when it comes to 240/300's. Anytime I find one for sale that's $100.00 or less I try to buy it.

I find the best place to get them are from the V8 guys/gals that are building the old trucks. I've gotten many free or $50 240/300's because they are worthless to the V8 crowd. They just want them gone.


x2.

Good thing we live in different parts of the country or we'd be competing for the $100 300s.
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Post #70 by Fordman75 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:04 pm

arse_sidewards wrote:
Fordman75 wrote:
I have a small hoarding problem when it comes to 240/300's. Anytime I find one for sale that's $100.00 or less I try to buy it.

I find the best place to get them are from the V8 guys/gals that are building the old trucks. I've gotten many free or $50 240/300's because they are worthless to the V8 crowd. They just want them gone.


x2.

Good thing we live in different parts of the country or we'd be competing for the $100 300s.



Yea I've already got too much competition in my area!! :D
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Post #71 by Wesman07 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:26 pm

Has anyone seen these in a generator application?

I’m looking at some “off the grid” houses, and I realized the need of a strong reliable generator.
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Post #72 by arse_sidewards » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:58 pm

Wesman07 wrote:Has anyone seen these in a generator application?

I’m looking at some “off the grid” houses, and I realized the need of a strong reliable generator.


I recall there being one somewhere in this thread.
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Post #73 by Wesman07 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:21 am

arse_sidewards wrote:
Wesman07 wrote:Has anyone seen these in a generator application?

I’m looking at some “off the grid” houses, and I realized the need of a strong reliable generator.


I recall there being one somewhere in this thread.


Your right. It was a closed eBay listing. I found another website though.

https://gpmsurplus.com/product/35kw-koh ... generator/
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Post #74 by woodbutcher » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:27 am

:D Hi Wesman07.I mentioned that I saw one used in a boat in Florida.
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Post #75 by Wesman07 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:35 am

woodbutcher wrote::D Hi Wesman07.I mentioned that I saw one used in a boat in Florida.
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Not a bad idea either
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Post #76 by arse_sidewards » Fri May 18, 2018 3:37 pm

30kw generator. Even has the "Power by Ford" valve cover. Air filter orientation is interesting.

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Post #77 by blmhawkeye » Fri May 18, 2018 8:03 pm

tom954x4 wrote:Industrial 300s are also used to power augers for well drilling rigs.


Found one of these setups a few months ago, grabbed a couple photos and will post them when able

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Post #78 by Wesman07 » Fri May 18, 2018 8:40 pm

What I find interesting is a 30kw generator requires 40 hp... or so I’ve read. It seems small for the motor?
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Post #79 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri May 18, 2018 9:15 pm

Wesman07 wrote:What I find interesting is a 30kw generator requires 40 hp... or so I’ve read. It seems small for the motor?

My rule of thumb for alternators / generators is input:output is roughly 2:1. So that means 80 hp would be required to generate 30 KW (40 hp). If you assume that the engine does not want to run continuously at the peak HP rpm for longevity reasons, and maybe running on natural gas, or with a lower CR then it makes sense.
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Post #80 by Wesman07 » Fri May 18, 2018 10:30 pm

THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER wrote:
Wesman07 wrote:What I find interesting is a 30kw generator requires 40 hp... or so I’ve read. It seems small for the motor?

My rule of thumb for alternators / generators is input:output is roughly 2:1. So that means 80 hp would be required to generate 30 KW (40 hp). If you assume that the engine does not want to run continuously at the peak HP rpm for longevity reasons, and maybe running on natural gas, or with a lower CR then it makes sense.


Oh well now that makes perfect sense. Thank you FTF
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Post #81 by Lazy JW » Mon May 21, 2018 1:30 pm

Keep in mind that this engine will be governed to run right at 1800 RPM to produce 60 Hz. If it is developing 80 hp at full load then it will also be at about 233 lbs-feet of torque (if I did the math correctly). A 300 can do this quite nicely, but it is not grossly overpowered for the task.
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Post #82 by double-aught » Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 pm

FMC Sewer Cleaner pulling a M60 Bean pump. It had a belt driven gov. and the pump 60 GPM and 2500 psi. Ran smooth as a clock.

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Post #83 by Wesman07 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:03 am

I had a pleasant surprise visitor on my job site this morning. Mr. in-line stopped by in the form of a concrete pumper. He’s a real smooth talker!

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Post #84 by Lazy JW » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:53 am

Wesman07 wrote:I had a pleasant surprise visitor on my job site this morning. Mr. in-line stopped by in the form of a concrete pumper. He’s a real smooth talker!

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Nice! Preferred Concrete Pumping out of Sagle, Idaho. Just up the road :D
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Post #85 by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:08 pm

I started off this thread with a pic of a similar concrete pumper - the first I'd seen.
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Post #86 by Wesman07 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:12 pm

I was very impressed with how well it did “it’s job”
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Post #87 by HotrodSmurf » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:35 pm

My grandpa had an Owatonna swather with a 300, far as I could tell the whole reason he got it was because of that engine.
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Post #88 by Atmus » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:31 am

No picture of it installed, but I have a 300 that was installed as a propane fueled electric generator in a local passenger train line.
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