67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Moderator: Mod Squad

thestang
Registered User
Posts: 68
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:22 pm

67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #1 by thestang » Sat May 12, 2018 10:40 pm

Hey guys

I am tired of my new friggin autolite 1100 it sucks horribly. What is another bolt on carb that i can use?

User avatar
chad
Registered User
Posts: 3812
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:51 am
Location: Lawrence Swamp, S. Amherst, MA

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #2 by chad » Sat May 12, 2018 10:45 pm

I have a 170 YF I'll trade ya - may B (C sig below).
:thumbup:
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
Chad - '70 LUEB on '77 frame (i.e. PS, D44, trapezoidal BB 9", 4.11), 250, NV 3550 & DSII to B transplanted, "T" D20/PTO, 2" SL, 1" BL, 4 discs, 33"X15", etc. Seeking: Hydraulic gear motor for Koenig pto. chrlsful@aol.com (413) 259-1749

CZLN6
VIP Member
Posts: 3203
Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:07 am
Location: Idaho Falls, Id
Contact:

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #3 by CZLN6 » Sun May 13, 2018 10:43 am

Howdy the sting:

Which 1100? What distributor are you using? What are the symptoms of your carb?

Adios, David
co-author of the Falcon Performance Handbook
http://www.falcon6handbook.com/

User avatar
B RON CO
VIP Member
Posts: 650
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:02 pm
Location: Long Island, NY
Contact:

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #4 by B RON CO » Sun May 13, 2018 11:29 am

Hi, Why don't you like it? Why did you change the old carb? How does it run? You should do a compression test and make sure the ignition system is in top shape before trashing a carb. Good luck
B RON CO. Still workin' on it!

1933 Ford Pickup - 59A Flathead V8
1966 Ford Bronco - U14 - 170/200 Straight 6
1966 Ford Mustang - 289 V8

thestang
Registered User
Posts: 68
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:22 pm

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #5 by thestang » Sun May 13, 2018 12:40 pm

I want more power. Also i want a carb that would be able to handle boost. My carb is new but its just sucha pain in the ass to get the car to run smooth.

Is the YF 170 better?

thestang
Registered User
Posts: 68
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:22 pm

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #6 by thestang » Sun May 13, 2018 1:01 pm

CZLN6 wrote:Howdy the sting:

Which 1100? What distributor are you using? What are the symptoms of your carb?

Adios, David


It just doesnt run smooth no matter how many times i tune it. Its okaaaaay at best now but still feels like i can get more out of a carb. Its still a little rough especially when i first start the car

User avatar
chad
Registered User
Posts: 3812
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:51 am
Location: Lawrence Swamp, S. Amherst, MA

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #7 by chad » Sun May 13, 2018 1:12 pm

thestang wrote: a carb that would be able to handle boost. My carb is new but its just sucha pain...to get the car to run smooth.
Is the YF 170 better?


Echo on David's Qs.
+ what yr & engine. What R the symptoms? what have U tried? More details plez...will U do the wrk?

we have a Turbo forum here - ck 'Index'. After this runs properly possibly go there but if serious U can do both (build NOW towards that).
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
Chad - '70 LUEB on '77 frame (i.e. PS, D44, trapezoidal BB 9", 4.11), 250, NV 3550 & DSII to B transplanted, "T" D20/PTO, 2" SL, 1" BL, 4 discs, 33"X15", etc. Seeking: Hydraulic gear motor for Koenig pto. chrlsful@aol.com (413) 259-1749

thestang
Registered User
Posts: 68
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:22 pm

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #8 by thestang » Sun May 13, 2018 1:18 pm

Can an autolite 1100 handle boost? Its a single barrel set up!?

User avatar
chad
Registered User
Posts: 3812
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:51 am
Location: Lawrence Swamp, S. Amherst, MA

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #9 by chad » Sun May 13, 2018 1:46 pm

fuel filter'd B the easiest ck.
thestang wrote:Can an autolite 1100 handle boost? Its a single barrel set up!?

we have a Turbo forum here - ck 'Index'.
the tech archive above @ the big blue box/crossed screwdrives/wrench may help U.

Yes it'll take some boost.
These motors run nice w/just a few # (5 - 7).
Some do alota motor work'n run quite higher...

U may wanna 2v carb...read up, do some research ('tech archive', the "Ford 6 Performance Handbook")
C'mon back...
:beer:
Last edited by chad on Sun May 13, 2018 9:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
Chad - '70 LUEB on '77 frame (i.e. PS, D44, trapezoidal BB 9", 4.11), 250, NV 3550 & DSII to B transplanted, "T" D20/PTO, 2" SL, 1" BL, 4 discs, 33"X15", etc. Seeking: Hydraulic gear motor for Koenig pto. chrlsful@aol.com (413) 259-1749

thestang
Registered User
Posts: 68
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:22 pm

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #10 by thestang » Sun May 13, 2018 6:22 pm

I am not sure why my car runs a littke rough esoecially when in gear and stopped when it moves its fine. Also when it first starts it sucks but after a few seconds its good to go.

mustang6
VIP Member
Posts: 1401
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:32 pm
Location: near Tacoma, WA USA

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #11 by mustang6 » Mon May 14, 2018 4:33 am

You could have a mismatched carb and distributor- read the article here https://fordsix.com/ci/Loadomatic.html and learn how to tell.
Scott

68 Mustang 200 ci, Aussie 250-2V head, Dual Headers, Comp Cams 252H, DSII w/MSD 6AL, T-5, V8 suspension.

65 Ranchero 200 ci, late 170 head, Autolite 1101, 3.03 3 speed, Maverick 8" 4 lug rear with 3.55 gears.

hughnewsone
Registered User
Posts: 29
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:56 pm
Contact:

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #12 by hughnewsone » Mon May 14, 2018 6:26 am

if you decide to junk that 1100 i can paypal you $20 for it lmk at hughnews1@ao :beer: l.com

CZLN6
VIP Member
Posts: 3203
Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:07 am
Location: Idaho Falls, Id
Contact:

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #13 by CZLN6 » Mon May 14, 2018 12:58 pm

Howdy Back theStang:

The symptoms you describe are typical of a vacuum leak or a burned valve(s). A vacuum gauge and a compression test would confirm or eliminate those as the cause of your engines symptoms.

When you say you have a "New" Autolite 1100 I'm confused. Autolite hasn't made new carbs since 1969. You probably mean you bought a rebuilt 1100 from someone. Are you sure that it is compatible with your distributor? Does it have a Spark Control Valve?

As to replacement carbs for your '67 200 with an automatic trans, that is a direct bolt-on, that is capable of accepting a turbo charge setup, iscompatible with a Load-o-Matic distributor, that is better than an Autolite 1100- I know of none. All possible are going to require linkage, fuel line and air cleaner adaptation and a distributor upgrade. The "Go-to" stock-type upgrade would be a Carter YF. They came in various sizes and cfms. IIWIYS, I be thinking of going to a Carter RBS. Both of these would require a distributor upgrade to a '68 and later system that would match the carbs ported vacuum system. The RBS is rated at 215 cfm and is shorter than other one barrel carbs to accomodate either a flow-through or pull-through turbo system.

Again, If I were in your shoes, I'd start with a vacuum gauge check. It is cheap and easy to do. IF it shows a strong, steady vacuum signal you've just eliminated the possibility of a vacuum leak and a burned valve leak. If it show a bouncing or weak vacuum reading, you will need to look further before blaming the carb.

It would sure help us in helping you diagnose if we knew more about your situation. Good luck and best wishes.

Adios, David
co-author of the Falcon Performance Handbook
http://www.falcon6handbook.com/

thestang
Registered User
Posts: 68
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:22 pm

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #14 by thestang » Mon May 14, 2018 3:57 pm

CZLN6 wrote:Howdy Back theStang:

The symptoms you describe are typical of a vacuum leak or a burned valve(s). A vacuum gauge and a compression test would confirm or eliminate those as the cause of your engines symptoms.

When you say you have a "New" Autolite 1100 I'm confused. Autolite hasn't made new carbs since 1969. You probably mean you bought a rebuilt 1100 from someone. Are you sure that it is compatible with your distributor? Does it have a Spark Control Valve?

As to replacement carbs for your '67 200 with an automatic trans, that is a direct bolt-on, that is capable of accepting a turbo charge setup, iscompatible with a Load-o-Matic distributor, that is better than an Autolite 1100- I know of none. All possible are going to require linkage, fuel line and air cleaner adaptation and a distributor upgrade. The "Go-to" stock-type upgrade would be a Carter YF. They came in various sizes and cfms. IIWIYS, I be thinking of going to a Carter RBS. Both of these would require a distributor upgrade to a '68 and later system that would match the carbs ported vacuum system. The RBS is rated at 215 cfm and is shorter than other one barrel carbs to accomodate either a flow-through or pull-through turbo system.

Again, If I were in your shoes, I'd start with a vacuum gauge check. It is cheap and easy to do. IF it shows a strong, steady vacuum signal you've just eliminated the possibility of a vacuum leak and a burned valve leak. If it show a bouncing or weak vacuum reading, you will need to look further before blaming the carb.

It would sure help us in helping you diagnose if we knew more about your situation. Good luck and best wishes.

Adios, David



Which vacuum gauge do you recommend and where do i connect it (which vacuum line)?

User avatar
Econoline
Registered User
Posts: 961
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:37 pm
Location: Anacortes, WA

Re: 67 Mustang - Other Carb Options

Post #15 by Econoline » Mon May 14, 2018 10:38 pm

Your auto parts store will likely loan you one for free. Hook it to the 1/4" fpt manifold vacuum port on the side of the log. You may have to tee into a hose if you have something hooked up there. Otherwise you need a 1/4" mpt x 1/8" barb fitting, or some way to get there.
It ain't gonna fix itself

User avatar
chad
Registered User
Posts: 3812
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:51 am
Location: Lawrence Swamp, S. Amherst, MA

carb tune up?

Post #16 by chad » Tue May 15, 2018 9:39 am

auto prts store
Advance, PepBoys, AutoZone, O'Rielieys, have the guage behind the counter - may charge 4 it but U get the $ back when bringing back.
I usta go out to the curb wid da guy (5 yrs@AutoZ) 2 show em how to use it...

(hughnewsone - C post #2)

a la David above: LOM/SCV match? C big blue box above @ crossed screwddriver/wrench; "the Handbook" (frm Matt at vintage inlines dot com)
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
Chad - '70 LUEB on '77 frame (i.e. PS, D44, trapezoidal BB 9", 4.11), 250, NV 3550 & DSII to B transplanted, "T" D20/PTO, 2" SL, 1" BL, 4 discs, 33"X15", etc. Seeking: Hydraulic gear motor for Koenig pto. chrlsful@aol.com (413) 259-1749

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests