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144 3/4 throttle flat spot

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144 3/4 throttle flat spot

Post #1 by falcon_master » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:15 pm

Hey everyone. Hope all is well for you all. I got my bird running pretty well over winter but for some reason even with the 180 thermostat it won’t warm up at all always at the C mark on temp gauge and it has a noticeable hesitation around 3/4 throttle after a second it’ll go away is this normal. Also I found this 200 CI online does this look good to get? Would I need a different clutch? He’s asking about 250 for just the engine. Also it’s 66 so it should just bolt to my 2.77 trans right no mods needed to car just bolt out bolt in

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/pts/ ... 35855.html
Junior year high school AFJROTC cadet and car enthusiast. Likes all things ford and engines of any company. 64 falcon 2dr sedan,144CI and 3spd column shift. estimated 124,000 miles. Resurrected after sitting outside for 18 years, In process fixing for use as daily driver YouTube channel for repairs coming soon. “Old cars may break but are never broken”-RCR

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Post #2 by chad » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:59 pm

I would defiantly go for it (it has alotta extras & is post '64 so can have the DSII).

There's no info in ur signature & I forgot ur transmission. If U have the 3 speed I think it's a match...
unless U gotta alotta in-city traffic to contend with. A 5 speed & disc breaks up frnt could B in its future.

This is a motor U can hop up/is easy to swap in.
U will probably B happier w/it over ur 144. Many enjoy them over my 250.

The price is right (if in OK condition).
Have him turn it w/a wrench or better yet (he seems to agree w/this in CL advert)
a can of gas above & a battery (hear it run 30 sec. to 1 min).
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
Chad - '70 LUEB on '77 frame (i.e. PS, D44, trapezoidal BB 9", 4.11), 250, NV 3550 & DSII to B transplanted, "T" D20/PTO, 2" SL, 1" BL, 4 discs, 33"X15", tool boxes, etc. Seeking: Hydraulic gear motor for Koenig pto. chrlsful@aol.com (413) 259-1749

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Re: 144 3/4 throttle flat spot

Post #3 by StarDiero75 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:45 pm

Id get it, and leave the C4 on it. Look at trying to convert the car to a column shift auto. Its a much better tranny than your peanut tranny even if its a manual.
I'd drop that sucker in and send it. You'll need a difference radiator, trans mount, possible driveline lengthen, column (you can use one from a 2spd auto and change the gear indicator), and cooler lines. He's even offering the radiator, I'd take it and send it.

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Re: 144 3/4 throttle flat spot

Post #4 by falcon_master » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:42 am

Thanks for all the reply’s guys, sadly the owner changed his mind he said no to my offer of $250 for just the engine said he’d do at least 350. That’s more than I have right now. It’s a real bummer I’m having a hard time finding 200s. If I had to be honest mechanically the car is pretty sound I put about 100 miles on our property 2 hours straight at a time and I never had a problem. Always starts right up and keeps running fine no knocks or rattles just the TO or input shaft is super loud I’m just to lazy to drop the tranny to check it myself :lol: :lol: .So now I need to tear out carpet and headliner and make it actually not smell like mouse poop
Junior year high school AFJROTC cadet and car enthusiast. Likes all things ford and engines of any company. 64 falcon 2dr sedan,144CI and 3spd column shift. estimated 124,000 miles. Resurrected after sitting outside for 18 years, In process fixing for use as daily driver YouTube channel for repairs coming soon. “Old cars may break but are never broken”-RCR

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144 3/4 throttle flat spot

Post #5 by chad » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:52 am

I imaging that's how many of us 'do it' - I have...set a budget, get her runnin/safe, do my DD, fine tune the less essentials (upholstery, trim, paint, etc), gather affordable prts, do research, save $, and wait for the higher expense items (move frm N/A to turbo/superc/efi; discs, trany upgrade).

On the carb - not sure..."3/4 throttle" sounds like transition circuit of some sort?
Have U traced the linkage the whole way to rule it out 1st?
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
Chad - '70 LUEB on '77 frame (i.e. PS, D44, trapezoidal BB 9", 4.11), 250, NV 3550 & DSII to B transplanted, "T" D20/PTO, 2" SL, 1" BL, 4 discs, 33"X15", tool boxes, etc. Seeking: Hydraulic gear motor for Koenig pto. chrlsful@aol.com (413) 259-1749

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Re: 144 3/4 throttle flat spot

Post #6 by 62Cometman » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:40 am

Its too bad your looking in phoenix, ive had 4 200s come up for sale on FB lately usually cause they are doing a SBF swap and they usually only want about $150 or so and they were runnning when pulled. One guy had a 250 that ran but i didn't have the space for it, probably should have bought it though :roll:
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144 3/4 throttle flat spot

Post #7 by chad » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:52 am

yeah, 18 hr drive, BUT...
if purchased & not ina rush for delivery~

I have used uShip for frames, engines, etc.
The costs have been very reasonable, mostly due to my patients and frugality.
Sourcing has been similar (almost) to this 1. I have 'net friends' all over due to sites like this 1.
Folks have shipped me stuff they owned. This would B a lill different inthat an item would need 'acquired'
held onto, then shipped. Probably a pretty difficult situation. If the original 3rd party (unknown individual)
would hold onto it a 'net buddy' would not B needed. Some of these 3rd parties do no wish to ship (had that issue
for over a decade) while a 'net buddy' may. Lots of variables but just some thoughts to what we could do for each other.
Others?
"Big thing is only make one change at a time. Change 2 or more things at a time it becomes difficult to figure which change helped or hurt" turbo2256b » 1/16/2017
Chad - '70 LUEB on '77 frame (i.e. PS, D44, trapezoidal BB 9", 4.11), 250, NV 3550 & DSII to B transplanted, "T" D20/PTO, 2" SL, 1" BL, 4 discs, 33"X15", tool boxes, etc. Seeking: Hydraulic gear motor for Koenig pto. chrlsful@aol.com (413) 259-1749

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Re: 144 3/4 throttle flat spot

Post #8 by bubba22349 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:03 pm

falcon_master wrote:Hey everyone. Hope all is well for you all. I got my bird running pretty well over winter but for some reason even with the 180 thermostat it won’t warm up at all always at the C mark on temp gauge and it has a noticeable hesitation around 3/4 throttle after a second it’ll go away is this normal. Also I found this 200 CI online does this look good to get? Would I need a different clutch? He’s asking about 250 for just the engine. Also it’s 66 so it should just bolt to my 2.77 trans right no mods needed to car just bolt out bolt in

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/pts/ ... 35855.html


Glad you have made much progress! You could always try a 194 T Stat, are you sure the temp gauge is working correctly? If it's really cold were your at you could try blocking off part of the radiator with some cardboard to see if temps come up. Plus a cold engine isn't very effeciant it could even be part of your hesitation problem. You probally need to pull out the Trans and replace that throw out bearing. A 2.77 isn't a very heavy Trans so is easy enough to do in an afternoon to a day, depending on what tools you have to work with plus a good place to do the work. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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