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I was looking at my rear end while the bumper was off and i noticed that the gas tank is set more to one side which prevents me from running dual exhaust all the way back. i suppose i have 3 options. I could get a new tank (smaller) and have it centered which will allow dual all the way back...or i could run dual side by side right out the back....final option is that i have the pipes come out in front of the rear wheels, I dont know what that does to your wheels though, having all that exhaust blow by it...dont think its good though. what would u guys do? i want to setup the car if i have to before i get my exhaust.
 
my gas tank is offset a little bit too but it didnt stop me from running duals and there is plenty of clearance
 
i plan on running either dual 2 1/4" or just 2" with a higher flowing system....I dont have much room at all unless i get really close to the tank, probably would have 1/2 inch spce between the pipe and the tank, plus there are the gas line and wire which are somewhat in the way, but easy enough to work around...i just dont want to get too close...would a heat sheild be good enough. Maybe i could get the exhaust to hang farter down over the back of the differential and have most of the rear exhaust showing (i could throw on some of those nice long crome tubes to make it look nicer) that would probably give me about 2" or so of clearance from the tank...i would still use a heat shield..I'm just worried about the tank overheating. Would having the exhaust that low look stupid...it would probably be level with the rest of the body then and give it more of a lowered look :?
 
Is the Monarch on a Fox platform? Look at factory V8 versions of your car; there should be a split system made to suit. Mufflers may well be in another location. I am totally sold on the sound of Oke Comet's Borla Pro XS twins, but that tone has a lot to do with the Pacemaker pipes up front.

Cheers, Adam.

Edit: I read up a little and now understand it's on a stretched Maverick underbody. That should make things fairly easy. :wink:
 
Here at least, they like side pipes to exit a few inches past the last door opening. Reasoning is, if the door seals are defective, none of the exhaust gases will get sucked into the car. If Dave's got similar rules up in the Arctic Circle :wink: he may not be able to fit them to his four door.
 
lol :lol: arctic circle eh...i sure do love this chilly 23 deg celcius...(sorry i dont have a conversion calculator anymore to convert to farenheit, lol)
i dont know what the rules re for that but i think it would be fine...we dont have too many rules except for the cat and muffler and passing aircare emission tests...my doors seal good anyways, but the pipes would be past the bottom of the door so it should be fine....just worried about the wheels thats all...and possibly extra interior noise since i want something with a nice rumble...
 
actually...i was just wondering something...I'm gonna try go dual out the back first....but either way, this is kinda what i was thinking....to get the best of both worlds, since i like both...How about a full exhaust system (the quiet kind...and have one of these adapter things that allows u to change the pipe the exhaust goes through and have it before the muffler or cat and then connect again after the muffler...that way u could choose quiet or straight pipe (or u could go after the cat for a more quieter sound) how does this sound (other than pricey) I'd probably end up doing the full exhaust and adding on that extra feature later, u can even attach the choke style pull things so u can switch the exhaust in the car 8)

this is the adapter thing...http://store.summitracing.com/eproduct.asp?N=120+4294923429+4294920534+305285
 
i cant quite see the gas tank in you pics, but ut loks like its slightly offset and the pipe is running pretty much right beside the tank...looks good..is it about the same setup as i would have on my car (the body and tank) except for the fact that mune is 4 door so i need more pipe then i guess?
 
I had a similar problem on my Valore wagon. The shop ran the pipes out behind the rear wheels and did not have to go past the tank. Works great.
 
i just checked today while i was under the car and i dont have much clearnace. maybe 1/2 to 3/4 and inch and i havent had anyproblems
 
Placid, because of 8 mph bumpers, a mandated Fed Motor Vehicle Standard, the tank and crossflow exhast make it tight. The utilities, pickups and panel vans in Australia had similar issues, and they also used a cranked pipe out side the chassis rails and leaf springs. Easy to do. If you got creative, a set of Chevy or Poncho 1970-1981 F-body drop pipes would look hot! Camaros, F-birds, Nova, Ventura, the Canuk Arcadian that kind of thing. Ford boys over this side of the ditch like them, as your less likely to slam the exhast tips on gutters. The Chevs F-bodies and Ford x-bodies have similar hard bends, similar 110 or so inch wheel bases, similar tracks

Check this http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?i...ages?q=Chevy+exhaust+pipes&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8

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hmmmm, thats not a bad idea Xtaxi! i could live with angled pipes in the rear...i wanted to put some nice chrome 2-1/2" tubes on the ends of the pipes to pretty it up so runing it straight back would really not give me any room for that, I'll take a peek under the car and see how it is, I'm not sure but i think i may have something in the way...i'll check later. What and where would be the best way/spot to cross the exhaust over to the other side...over or under the driveshaft (i assume over, is that gonna require a heat shield?)
 
The shockies are staggerd on the post 1970 unibody Falcon based Fords. That may be an issue, but most Boss Mustangs had duals and staggerd shockies.

The exhast header should be the dual out Cliffy or Hooker set up, or perhaps the or a Pacemaker style offered by FSSP, modified to clear the 250 starter. There are a couple of ackward methods to getting a good dual set up past the trans.

Option 1 Take from the two outlets header one pipe under the passengers seat, then under the C4, then linked by an H piece. All V8 Granadas had a twin bump cross member, and its the same with my Falcon 500 as it is with the Monarch. The other pip is in the stock position.

Then run a set of duals all the way to the back.

Option 2 is to group both pipes from the header, and try fitting it under the x-member bump of the true right. There isn't a lot of space, as the bump is only suitable for one 3" pipe, max.

Then run them side by side with an H or x pipe back to duals.

If you have the space and work ethic, I'd just get junked Granada bits, and weld them up with flanges, no interferance fit or U-clamps. I see no reason to go for any really big pipes. The rule for exhast sizing is no more than 1 square inch of pipe area for every 35 cubes for a wicked hot rod, 1 square inch per 50 cubes as a minimum.

Thats duals with a 2.125" internal diameter, or 1.75" internal minimum.

Its common for most cheaper factory spec after markets to be 1.875". Like stock Falcons over here with the optional dual exhast.

Focus on the bends over the axle. Go to flanged 2.25" internal diameter bends over the axle if you can get them, and good dual mufflers. Resonators (Cherry Bombs, Purple Hornies or whatever you call them over there) , facing the wrong way with the internal rough section facing away from the spent gasses, make for a smooth sound. Twin cats in good shape could do the same. The back dual mufflers then take the sharpness off the resonators. The objective is to run smaller pipe sizes with less backpressure by easing the bends. I've seen my mates twin 2.5" 350 63 Chev take a huge loss by having to use 2" exhast pipes. Its better to go cheap on the main pipes, and spend big on the bends. That way, the set-up sounds good, and won't take a curb out or get smashed by pot holes.

The details are up to you, but after researching the Aussie, British Jags, Aston in liners and American ideas on exhasts, this looks like the best method.

Big singles look like they reverberate too much, like a big Tuba. Ask Jack Collins and others from the 300 brigade. The bigger pipes deepen the noise, smaller ones raise the pitch. What Ws111 said on the x-pipe, and use as much off the shelf stuff you can get.

I hope to detail my exhast system for my Falcon 500 soon. This is what I'm using.
 
thanks guys...I'm going to try to map out where the exhaust will go using your advice, and then go to a muffler place and see how much it will cost. I have another question...i can get hedman headers for halfish price cause i know a guy who works at a store...would that work fine at all?...its listed as a header for the engine!
 
Placid Warrior, do you have or can you get a part number for the hedman's? I can't find a part number for them and I run hedmans on all of my vehicles if thjey are avaliable.
 
I'll be going to Lordco today to pick up an airfilter, so I'll get u a part number or something if i can...and he said he doesnt get such a good price on the header or on carbs cause the shop doesnt mark them up as much...he gets about 20% markup from what the shop pays for stuff...although the headers from Mikes site are very pretty 8) so i might just save up
 
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